European Super League Mega Thread

[stov]

Fucking hell. Oil fc and oil city trying to persuade us to do the right thing. Jesus levy you have dropped several bollocks and ruined our clubs reputation.

 

[mrlilywhite]

Like my post above alludes to, billion dollar law suits are child's play for these guys.

It's par for the course.

You think that the likes of Henry or Glazer have never faced a billion dollar law-suit?

They don't care.

This is about if they pull out of the super league isn't it? That surely makes their situation impossible now & barring a coming together with uefa to placate the situation in the club's favour, which looks unlikely, then how do they go back and withdraw their application for it?

 

[wrd]

Actual footage of me if I ended up choosing to walk away from Spurs because of all this:

 

[Trix]

Ok so I've just spoken to an agent who in turn has spoken to a board member at another club involved.

He basically said that as far as the legalities go people have been working on this for 2 years. They believe they have every eventuality covered and the money to fight and win on every front in every country involved. Those behind this were expecting this fall out, and are more than prepared to fight it.

…………………

Don't @ me I'm just passing on.

 

[jonnyrotten]

Sorry this is such a blinkered view, seen from inside a closed shop (analogy intended) of mainly middle aged blokes talking about football on a football forum, or listening to sports radio. Ask the majority of casual or world football fans and they will be ambivalent at best or more likely supportive of a ESL (in whatever form), and guess what, their opinion counts as much, if not more than yours or mine.

I will state again, I am neither in favour or against this (I don't really care and see it as inevitable in one form or other), but to think that this has "tiny minority" support on a much larger global scale, is naive.

Clearly that's the view of the board. Ignoring the local community and fan base that has supported the club through good times and bad times, in favour of pandering to the global fairweathers that may only like spurs because of one particular player, and probably would switch allegiance at the drop of a hat.

 

[mrlilywhite]

Actual footage of me if I ended up choosing to walk away from Spurs because of all this:

You need to see someone about your jaundice mate

 

[Norgie]

Ok so I've just spoken to an agent who in turn has spoken to a board member at another club involved.

He basically said that as far as the legalities go people have been working on this for 2 years. They believe they have every eventuality covered and the money to fight and win on every front in every country involved. Those behind this were expecting this fall out, and are more than prepared to fight it.

…………………

Don't @ me I'm just passing on.

Cheers for the info @Trix That makes a lot of sense, there was a picture of a lot of the clubs owners in New York from 2017 I saw somewhere.

 

[Amo]

"Kicking them out is suicide for the PL"

Fine. Dock all the points but don't kick them out. See what they do in response.

 

[stov]

I haven't read any of the previous pages on this thread, but here's my tuppence worth....

Having read up on a lot of what's gone on, I have to say that I am on board with Spurs being in the ESL. Obviously we need to participate in the premier league as well (as is the ESL teams' plan), AND I would want different clubs to join the ESL every season to mix it up (which is also part of the plan)

The richest clubs have the most outlay and the most to lose when they don't have the right European football. Yet we have to play as many games as UEFA and FIFA dictate, yet they do not disclose how much money they make from us. No one knows what the UEFA president earns. No one knows what any FIFA member earns. What we do know, is that they are corrupt - that is a fact as both Blatter and Platini can atest.

They (UEFA and FIFA) keep asking the richest clubs to dance more and more each season, so that they earn more money for UEFA. When the rich clubs ask for changes, they have been repeatedly ignored and told to dance even more! This is incredibly flawed. And the richest clubs have had enough.

England's top 6 teams are all in the the richest 11 teams in the world. So when UEFA decided that the English FA can only have the same amount of CL spots as Italy and Spain, they are putting the financial burden of failing to make the CL on those 2 clubs that miss out. This is not sustainable and is dangerous for the future of the club involved.

I am so glad that somebody is finally giving FIFA a taste of their own medicine.

Well enjoy your sanitised billionaires playground. The owners of most of these clubs are despicable, morally bankrupt people or nation states looking to embellish their reputations through sports washing. Expect to see an amazon athletic or Gazprom fc in the near future.

Arsenal move to Boston or la (kroenke has previous). Tottenham to be the also rans with no chance of success. And.so on.

 

[MassadaTom]

"Kicking them out is suicide for the PL"

Fine. Dock all the points but don't kick them out. See what they do in response.

And whot would that do?

 

[Indisguise]

Boycotts, not buying tickets, merchandise, not subscribing to SKY etc should have been done when Chelsea were taken over. It is too little too late now. The game has been broke for too long and even the cancellation of the super league won't make things better as the new Champions league format is a shambles and that will probably get adapted so it effectively becomes a super league anyway.

People keep blaming these owners for greed but fans are just as much to blame. They could have prevented the rot a lot earlier. People keep demanding better players, criticise Levy for not spending money etc.

Fans, pundits, sky, need to have a good look at the mirror before going on their high horse.

Of course it isn't perfect, and lots of different people are culpable for a lot of different behaviours that have led to this, but what the Super League stands for is appalling. There has to be a cut-off point somewhere for how far this crap is allowed to go. If it's allowed to go ahead, football will lose any semblance of competition, fairness, merit, mobility and integrity. Yes, I agree with you on some of what you say, but there has to be a limit on how the richest most influential clubs conduct their business and the effect it has on its supporters and lower rung clubs. We can throw our hands up into the air and shout about how far it's already gone and what's the point, but I personally think enough is enough.

 

[yawa]

And whot would that do?

Speed up the creation of the super league.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Ok so I've just spoken to an agent who in turn has spoken to a board member at another club involved.

He basically said that as far as the legalities go people have been working on this for 2 years. They believe they have every eventuality covered and the money to fight and win on every front in every country involved. Those behind this were expecting this fall out, and are more than prepared to fight it.

…………………

Don't @ me I'm just passing on.

Appreciate you sharing this. Think we need to start accepting this is real.

 

[chrissivad]

Speed up the creation of the super league.

With more league challenges thrown in.

 

[stov]

Boycotting won't change anything. This is aimed at harnessing global markets and mitigating the risk of empty stadiums in the future. If the stadiums are empty due to a boycott they won't care as they.will merch sales from China, Saudi and USA plus global TV rights.
Govt intervention is the only way to stop this.

 

[MassadaTom]

Well enjoy your sanitised billionaires playground. The owners of most of these clubs are despicable, morally bankrupt people or nation states looking to embellish their reputations through sports washing. Expect to see an amazon athletic or Gazprom fc in the near future.

Arsenal move to Boston or la (kroenke has previous). Tottenham to be the also rans with no chance of success. And.so on.

Gazprom fc is called Zenit St Petersburgh
Rest of this angry rant have nothing to do with egzistence of CL or SL.
Chelsea and Man C will egzist, amazon can buy Newcastle tommorow. Bilioners will remain Bilioners.

 

[OpenHeartZoo]

This is going ahead buddy, with or without the clubs playing in the PL.

You look at the owners of these clubs; they're serious people who don't mess about. Venture capitalists, Kings and gangsters; they come from a world where you don't back down and you don't go soft.

Plus they've got the REAL power backing them up; JP Morgan Chase. A giant organisation with assets of over $3 trillion, who could buy every club in Europe (literally!!) and not break a sweat.

If Fifa, Uefa, the PL, Sky and the fans want to fight this, then they better bring nuclear weapons, because the other side aren't taking 'no' for an answer.

I mean, I thought we would just line the streets and block any fans from entering any of the stadiums, throwing buckets of shit and piss at any that try. But I suppose a nuke could work...

 

[LeParisien]

I'm far from a BSoDL I'd be interested to know what viewpoint of mine gave you that impression.

I'm actually biting my tongue a bit in regards to Levy and this situation because I think what I'd like to know before casting judgement is if he was one of the drivers of this situation or there was a threat of being left behind. I understand why he agreed to this but yeah before I go further I need a bit more information.

What I will say is that up until now, as much as how he approached things frustrated me, I understood the process we were going through and was proud that even though it was difficult, we were going about things the right way and that our time would come, this has gone a far way to destroying that sentiment.

Sorry - I just assumed that someone who talks sense must like levy !!

 

[Amo]

And whot would that do?

It would deduct points from the current totals acrued by the six clubs.

 

[JCRD]

So out of interest, if this has been going on for two years then why have they only got 12 teams and not the full quota of 15 teams?