European Super League Mega Thread

[Donki]

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So what you are saying is thatthe Prime Minister can make up any old legislation to please anyone he wants to do a favour for and there's nothing anybody can do about it?

Yeah of course he can if he has enough MPs to back it and its goes through the House of Lords , even if it does get defeated in the HoL there are other loop holes to try.

 

[WinksyBoy]

If there was a super league, we would be puling out of everything but it eventually, I think thats what people are missing. The initial model would be for 20 clubs, that list will grow and grow with the clubs who can bring the most money being the clubs selected. Your telling me we are going to have the time to play in a super league, a premier league and an FA cup?

'Eventually'?

How long is that?

Why couldn't we have played PL, ESL and FA Cup?

 

[Amo]

Sounds like he seemed pretty confident, maybe because with this parliament he pretty much can.

Yeah and he has the backing of other parties, too. With such cross-party support any bill introduced by the PM would pass. And any act passed by Parliament is sovereign.

Unlike other countries there's there's no provision for striking new laws out as "unconstitutional."

Only way to repeal the law would be another Act of Parliament.

 

[DarwinSpur]

Thank god for Gary Neville and Chelsea fans.

We can now continue to enjoy our beloved premier League.

A place where the teams with the most money win.
A place where the gap between the top clubs and bottom clubs widens every year.
A place where relegation can threaten the entire existence of a football club.

On a side note, we can all enjoy Harry Kane playing for England the world cup in Qatar.

Add to this the push for the UK to be more like Germany.

Ah, yes... The Bundesliga famous for the equal opportunities for all Clubs to share in title success...

Can't help but feel like all the wrong questions are being asked so we're fated to never find the right answers.

 

[Chattaben]

John Barnes has a point.

A salary cap would bring parity to the English game however the problem would then come from the continent. I'm not an expert on Brexit and the EU but they way I understand it, a salary cap goes against certain workers rights within the EU. If the PL instituted a salary cap which it could now because of Brexit, then the teams within the EU would attract many of the top players looking for a better pay day. Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Donki]

'Eventually'?

How long is that?

Why couldn't we have played PL, ESL and FA Cup?

That's a minimum of 56 league games (between the PL and ESL) followed by what ever run of cup games there is, all the space of about 44 weeks. Also what is the value in the FA cup with the SL? A place in a European competition with no value as all the top teams are in the super league?

As for how long that depends how greedy the founders are.

 

[MassadaTom]

Yeah and he has the backing of other parties, too. With such cross-party support any bill introduced by the PM would pass. And any act passed by Parliament is sovereign.

Unlike other countries there's there's no provision for striking new laws out as "unconstitutional."

Only way to repeal the law would be another Act of Parliament.

Thou iam sure that even almighty English law doesn't work backwards.

 

[Amo]

Thou iam sure that even almighty English law doesn't work backwards.

Sorry I didn't follow.

 

[PLTuck]

Neither did I, my understanding was we being kicked out of it.

Edit: @PLTuck & @Lyngby BK
Is that not correct then?

I just thought you were making a joke mate.

 

[MassadaTom]

Sorry I didn't follow.

Cme on! ex post facto.

Also Fifa response for government mending in past was banning nation from all international competitions. Iam sure Parliament cannot circumvent that.

 

[Amo]

Cme on! ex post facto

Ah!

They tend to avoid doing it but nothing stopping them in terms of constitutional restraints. Laws have been applied ex post facto before.

 

[LSUY]

Sounds like he seemed pretty confident, maybe because with this parliament he pretty much can.

Labour would have either supported it or abstained as voting against would have been electoral suicide.

 

[LeParisien]

Ah!

They tend to avoid doing it but nothing stopping them in terms of constitutional restraints. Laws have been applied ex post facto before.

Are you suggesting the government break the rule of law to solve this problem ?

 

[Amo]

Are you suggesting the government break the rule of law to solve this problem ?

No. I was referring to what they can do not what they should or shouldn't do.

Not sure I got the bit about rule of law. Parliament's rule is law.

 

[THFC_SWE]

Its way too much money involved in the Champions League (football in general). If they want whats best for football, the money needs to be distributed more evenly. A winner should get more money than the other teams, but I think the gap needs to be smaller. And I also think the gap between Champions League and Europa League should be smaller. If you look at Europa League, you find clubs from inferior leagues, like from Norway, Sweden, Austria and so on. If they want football to grow, you must give those teams a fair chance to grow. A super league wont do that. Champions League wont do that. But only because Champions wont do that, it doesn't mean we need an extra league for the richest clubs.

 

[spursfan77]

The irony of clubs saying they need more money when many of their primary employees earn more in a day than most do in a year. Perhaps if you didn't all go along with runaway player transfers and wages you wouldnt be in this mess.

This is the problem I had when Championship clubs were asking for handouts from the Premier League during the last lockdown. Most Championship clubs have stupendous wages to turnover ratios with some over 100%. It is their own fault, yet they want a handout.

 

[Tel Boy]

A salary cap would bring parity to the English game however the problem would then come from the continent. I'm not an expert on Brexit and the EU but they way I understand it, a salary cap goes against certain workers rights within the EU. If the PL instituted a salary cap which it could now because of Brexit, then the teams within the EU would attract many of the top players looking for a better pay day. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I would rather have a competitive league than seeing the so called top players, let them go overseas on the big wages. I think it would also help the development of the young homegrown players as well.

 

[pffft]

Wouldn't this be a case of a government interfering with football matters which is against FIFA law?

Probably. But you know what... I'm not actually convinced that a sporting organisation should have a greater legal reach than a country's (or union of countries) government, or indeed that it does so.

Maybe if FIFA threw together a manifesto outlining their plans for the improvement of my country and entered a few candidates in elections I'd think differently, but as it stands the idea of a sporting organisation holding more sway than a government (yes, even a shit one like...oh I don't know, ours) on anything is pretty abhorrent, and although I am admittedly no expert on legal matters I very much doubt that if it came to a court case any judgement would rule in favour of FIFA law (which is basically just some rules they jotted down) over a government, whose laws are actually real ones (even if they are crap ones).

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

Just a thought but if they came back with the ESL and made it competetive and free to watch on terrestrial television/internet then I think everyone in England would be for it.

Never going to happen of course and would kind of go against the whole idea of the money grab, but that's something that could get fans back onside.

Also if Boris was serious about helping English football he'd bring it back to terrestrial TV and ban ppv.

 

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