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Poor fuckers gonna be here forever
Kinda ties in with what Warnock said, that he needs to knuckle down cause he can be great if he does, or end up in the lower leagues for lack of effort. The manager clearly hasn’t seen anything to warrant giving him more regular playing time.
it’s up to the kid to convince Conte, it’s simple and not about an agenda.
My feeling is that he never should have been bought. He wasn’t a manager pick.
I’m not quite sure how this will play out, but hopefully he puts in the work required.
How many players improved under Guardiola in his first year?I understand but it's really hard to find too many players who have improved under him, like really I'm not sure I can find any?
Exactly why in my opinion Pep is overrated. Inherited a great Barca team with the likes of Messi coming through, then picked up a triple winning Bayern team and now has a bottomless pit of cash to replace rather than coach players at city.How many players improved under Guardiola in his first year?
Zabaleta? nope
Kolorov? nope
Sterling? hardly
Otamendi? Not really
Stones? perhaps
Aguero? Pep didnt get best out of him at first.
Instead of improving some, pep simply upgraded his GK, RB (bought two), left back, CB and attacking winger.
100% agree would he ever fo To a club who is not At the top or the unlimited resources to be at the top. I would love to see how he does at a small club with limited players and resources.Exactly why in my opinion Pep is overrated. Inherited a great Barca team with the likes of Messi coming through, then picked up a triple winning Bayern team and now has a bottomless pit of cash to replace rather than coach players at city.
of course all that would be true if the options in front of him were performing and the side wasn't so sadly lacking in the same position the lad plays - conclusions Spence is either a total waste of money and worse than Royal or Conte won't pick him as he is making some sort of power statementContes job is to win - if Spencer was worthy of a start - judging him on training (none of Us see) then I am certain he would start. Yes he is a ‘club’ signing but if he was ready to add something to add team He would be playing.
he has a decent season last season and a
Couple of good Cup games games.
I wanted him to sign and I think he’ll be good for us but 100% don’t believe he is performing in training at a level to command a starting spot and he is not getting picked. If he was the answer he would be played and the money we are going to spend on rwb would be used else
Where of that I am sure.
I think it's been said on here that Conte loves players who go that extra yard in training. Im guessing Spence hasn't done that yet and with two experienced players ahead of him his game time has been limited . He is still young and elements of his game probably need work.of course all that would be true if the options in front of him were performing and the side wasn't so sadly lacking in the same position the lad plays - conclusions Spence is either a total waste of money and worse than Royal or Conte won't pick him as he is making some sort of power statement
I do not believe a manager who is judged on success and results and conte in particular is relentless and ruthless in achieving success would have a ‘power statement’ to his detriment. If he believed spence was ready and would add to the team I am certain Conte would play him. Not only would this potentially achieve more results but also free up money for other positions.of course all that would be true if the options in front of him were performing and the side wasn't so sadly lacking in the same position the lad plays - conclusions Spence is either a total waste of money and worse than Royal or Conte won't pick him as he is making some sort of power statement
The exact message I got originally the other day was "Still trains and acts like a Championship player. Conte still thinks he has more to give him. He's asked the club for game time to prove himself and Conte has told him to prove himself and he'll get game time." This doesn't mean he's lazy, has a bad attitude, or that he's not trying but it means he hasn't stepped it up to the required level in training. You don't get rewarded with a starting birth without showing you deserve it, it sets such a bad precedent to both the player in question and also others, especially youngsters trying to make the move up.of course all that would be true if the options in front of him were performing and the side wasn't so sadly lacking in the same position the lad plays - conclusions Spence is either a total waste of money and worse than Royal or Conte won't pick him as he is making some sort of power statement
The Pochmeister.Who was it who told players you don’t get paid to play matches you get paid to train.
If you train well then the match is the end result.
Agreed. Conte just wants good players that can help him win.I do not believe a manager who is judged on success and results and conte in particular is relentless and ruthless in achieving success would have a ‘power statement’ to his detriment. If he believed spence was ready and would add to the team I am certain Conte would play him. Not only would this potentially achieve more results but also free up money for other positions.
I also wonder if Emerson, although limited in am attacking perspective compliments KuLu better by not invading the space that Kulu enjoys and utilises, that makes him so effective.
The exact message I got originally the other day was "Still trains and acts like a Championship player. Conte still thinks he has more to give him. He's asked the club for game time to prove himself and Conte has told him to prove himself and he'll get game time." This doesn't mean he's lazy, has a bad attitude, or that he's not trying but it means he hasn't stepped it up to the required level in training. You don't get rewarded with a starting birth without showing you deserve it, it sets such a bad precedent to both the player in question and also others, especially youngsters trying to make the move up.
The exact message I got originally the other day was "Still trains and acts like a Championship player. Conte still thinks he has more to give him. He's asked the club for game time to prove himself and Conte has told him to prove himself and he'll get game time." This doesn't mean he's lazy, has a bad attitude, or that he's not trying but it means he hasn't stepped it up to the required level in training. You don't get rewarded with a starting birth without showing you deserve it, it sets such a bad precedent to both the player in question and also others, especially youngsters trying to make the move up.
Thanks Trix. He might be one of those players who it takes time for the penny to drop as to the difference between the PL and the Championship. Everything is harder and requires more work, more concentration, and more commitment. Hopefully when the penny drops he will become an important player for us.The exact message I got originally the other day was "Still trains and acts like a Championship player. Conte still thinks he has more to give him. He's asked the club for game time to prove himself and Conte has told him to prove himself and he'll get game time." This doesn't mean he's lazy, has a bad attitude, or that he's not trying but it means he hasn't stepped it up to the required level in training. You don't get rewarded with a starting birth without showing you deserve it, it sets such a bad precedent to both the player in question and also others, especially youngsters trying to make the move up.
The exact message I got originally the other day was "Still trains and acts like a Championship player. Conte still thinks he has more to give him. He's asked the club for game time to prove himself and Conte has told him to prove himself and he'll get game time." This doesn't mean he's lazy, has a bad attitude, or that he's not trying but it means he hasn't stepped it up to the required level in training. You don't get rewarded with a starting birth without showing you deserve it, it sets such a bad precedent to both the player in question and also others, especially youngsters trying to make the move up.
Exactly why in my opinion Pep is overrated. Inherited a great Barca team with the likes of Messi coming through, then picked up a triple winning Bayern team and now has a bottomless pit of cash to replace rather than coach players at city.
Trouble is the best managers will manage the top teams. I think he's still a top manager. It's not as simple as it sounds managing these big egos. We see Real Madrid and Chelsea often change manager for example. The fact that Pep is still dominating at the top with City shows his football still works today. He does well to adapt when the time comes and teams still haven't found a consistent method to beat them. I would love him to leave City because I don't see then dominating as much with someone else. Although he does need to win the CL with them and maybe that's what keeps him renewing.Exactly why in my opinion Pep is overrated. Inherited a great Barca team with the likes of Messi coming through, then picked up a triple winning Bayern team and now has a bottomless pit of cash to replace rather than coach players at city.
It also goes back to his comment at the start of the season. When asked how does he keep 3 right wing backs happy. His answer was it's up to them to make him happy.The exact message I got originally the other day was "Still trains and acts like a Championship player. Conte still thinks he has more to give him. He's asked the club for game time to prove himself and Conte has told him to prove himself and he'll get game time." This doesn't mean he's lazy, has a bad attitude, or that he's not trying but it means he hasn't stepped it up to the required level in training. You don't get rewarded with a starting birth without showing you deserve it, it sets such a bad precedent to both the player in question and also others, especially youngsters trying to make the move up.