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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

number41

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He’s very dramatic and has admitted himself he dies after a loss. Him talking 10 minutes after a loss isn’t good for anyone. Except the media
 

RuskyM

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ftr this is what happens when your club has absolutely no plan beyond "be successful". a manager having a tantrum seems apocalyptic because if he goes, we've got nothing else. no development plan, no long term vision, not even a short term vision. it's literally hoping a winning manager makes us win with his winningness.
 

Syn_13

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Surely this has to be some sort of gambit to force Levy into spending. He must've known what he was walking into. He knows we'd be a work in progress and he knows that we are a mentally weak and inconsistent team.

I can only see this as 3 possible scenarios. He's either suddenly had an epiphany and realised he can't bring us up to the top level and that the squad isn't as good as he initially thought, or he's had a change of heart and can't be bothered to rebuild our squad (perhaps he has his eye elsewhere and this was just a stop-gap), or he is committed and just wants to use this as a means of making Levy shit himself.
 

RuskyM

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Surely this has to be some sort of gambit to force Levy into spending. He must've known what he was walking into. He knows we'd be a work in progress and he knows that we are a mentally weak and inconsistent team.

I can only see this as 3 possible scenarios. He's either suddenly had an epiphany and realised he can't bring us up to the top level and that the squad isn't as good as he initially thought, or he's had a change of heart and can't be bothered to rebuild our squad (perhaps he has his eye elsewhere and this was just a stop-gap), or he is committed and just wants to use this as a means of making Levy shit himself.
i mean levy *has* spent money in recent years. he's got many, many, many faults, but we've spent money on players for conte in january (and are paying him a small fortune every week). the issue is we keep spunking money on the whims of Big Managers and being completely fucked when they don't work out.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Surely this has to be some sort of gambit to force Levy into spending.

I doubt it. Its way too early to do that - if that is what Conte was trying to do.

Nothing Levy could say now would convince Conte that the money will be there to spend this summer.
 

DCSPUR64

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I can't help but feel that this outburst is partly brought on by some of our home 'fans' who boo and groan at every opportunity. I'm surprised they haven't got the fucking hankies out yet. Blah blah high prices cry me a fucking river, build a bridge and get the fuck over it.

The guy is an emotional wreck. We all knew this when we hired him. The very same posters that wrere "conte, conte, conte, conte" ad nauseum in the summer are now sticking the knife in. The very same posters that blamed Levy for not getting Conte in the summer will no doubt blame Levy for going with Conte if and when it all unravels.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. A large section of our 'support' are a part of the problem and I wish those fans would just fuck off and 'support' someone else.
Not the home fans tonight but our fans tonight were brilliant. they drove up before in a snow storm, they turn up tonight in the pouring rain, they are the winners in my eyes, I am sure the Conte melt down was just what they did not want to hear.
 

Bobbins

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Bet he just threw his hands up when he realised Bentancur had to go off. Feels like he can't win.
 

whitesocks

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He won't be here come June. Personally and sadly I think he will quit Next month.
After those interviews, we'll be lucky if he is still here by the weekend.
I'm sure the sky interview has already been posted, but here it is in all its glory.
 

IamSpurtacus

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Context is always key

“I need to talk to the club. Tottenham have to make an assessment about the club, about me. We need to find the best solution. I can’t accept to keep losing. I’m sorry”

“Here coaches change, but players are always the same... but results don’t change…I came in to improve the situation but at this moment I’m not so good to improve this situation…The reality is there’s something wrong. I don’t want to close eyes. I want to help Tottenham. I’m too honest to close my eyes and continue in this way. Also to take my salary. It’s not right at the moment.”

he’s taking responsibility, but making clear there are limits

he’s also saying “back me or sack me” in a roundabout way

he’s not wrong. Just look at the state of our bench today. We barely have 11 players worthy of the top 8 - never mind top 4
 

spurs9

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I don’t think Poch ever spoke as candidly as Conte has done tonight. In fact, I think the most candid interview Poch did, correct me if I’m wrong, was when he said on the eve of the biggest game in this club’s history that he would resign if Spurs won the Champions League.

Slightly off topic but seeing what’s happening at the club now has given me a new found level of respect for what Poch did in his infant years at the club. We were in way worse shape when he took over with some utter garbage in our ranks and he turned us into title contenders in a little over 12 months. Conte, for everything he’s said, hasn’t had nearly as much success with a squad that includes two world class attackers in their prime.
Lets not forget Poch had a preseason, which Conte hasn't yet.

Also, Contes 14 PL games: Won 7, Lost 4 & Drawn 3. Scored 21, Conceded 16 and kept 5 clean sheets.
Poch's first 14 PL games: Won 6, Lost 6 & Drew 2. Scored 19, Conceded 21 and kept 3 clean sheets.

We might have actually been in better shape. From our best 1st 11 in PL history (16/17 season), 7 of the 11 were already at the club before Poch joined with only Son, Alderweireld, Wanyama and Dele joining after. Just goes to show how long it has been since we had a decent transfer window.
 
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tototoner

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After those interviews, we'll be lucky if he is still here by the weekend.
I'm sure the sky interview has already been posted, but here it is in all its glory.
Not a comfortable watch that
 

SirNiNyHotspur

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Just watched his interview, fully behind Conte, he’s clearly talking to the owners, saying he’s doing the max he can, player overhaul needed, if ENIC aren’t to change their ways then pointless carrying on for him, I admire his honesty, he’s put his head on the chopping block. Anyone that wants Conte gone is clueless to our real issues, and how anyone can have confidence ENIC would sort out this mess should he go is beyond me.
 
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ftr this is what happens when your club has absolutely no plan beyond "be successful". a manager having a tantrum seems apocalyptic because if he goes, we've got nothing else. no development plan, no long term vision, not even a short term vision. it's literally hoping a winning manager makes us win with his winningness.
Lewis and Levy did have a plan though. It just didn't involve winning. It involved building a stadium and redeveloping Tottenham to raise the value of the club as high as possible for an eventual sale.

If Conte goes ENIC need to sell the club and cash in on their investment as quickly as possible. They won't survive the aftermath and the resulting fan and player revolt. The value of their precious investment will only go south the further time goes on. They are parasites that will eventually kill the host.

Lewis and Levy are the ones that are very clearly solely responsible for this mess. They've treated the manager and roster as secondary concerns for years to the stadium rebuild and housing projects. The current state of the club is the end result of that.
 
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