Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[gibbospurs]

Thats why a lot of fans wanted ten hag in the summer. Seemed like a good fit for us and could have got him but levy is a clown

I’m not a Levy fan. But I think that choice was more Pats decision rather than Levy. Either way I would of been happier with it rather than Nuno.

 

[YB123]

Think we need some real experienced players in that squad. Seems to be a club obsession with young promising players. Need a finer balance. Look at Chelsea, Liv and City. All have 30 years + players playing weekly.

 

[AtoubaToothpaste]

We had the best person in Poch a perfectly matched fit but when he needed backing when he needed help with the rebuild Levy pulled the trigger.

What are we? We are getting top managers but don't want to fully back them...4 out 2 in.

Yup. Poch sums up what we needed: someone we knew was going to be with the long term. It's no surprise that we had our best run during that period. And yeah, ENIC fucked it. As much as I love having Conte, I just don't think ENIC are suddenly going to give him what he wants.

 

[YB123]

Btw its ludicrous that Conte should sacrifice his tactics and philosophy for this group of players.

Either fit in his 3-4-3/3-5-2 system or f*ck off

 

[sundanceyid10]

I’m not really sure how any of this is on Conte, he has barely been here a short time and the clusterf*** mess that is evaluating talent, spending money on shit and general mismanagement has been going on for ages, it is just that we have now managed to take it to another level of shite.

Admittedly it’s not Christian Gross/Paolo Tramezzani level shit yet but we are sure giving it a good go.

 

[gibbospurs]

I'm not sure that Conte needs "a Chelsea squad". His teams have included functional, unspectacular players everywhere he's been. We desperately need improvements in CM and WB but we should be able to provide them without spending like a club owned by kleptocrats.

Can’t really be bothered with looking through the squads that conte has had whilst winning leagues. I do know they bought Eriksen off of us tho. And had Lukaku. And I’m pretty sure Juve were utter trash.

 

[double0]

He shouldn’t of changed it tho, he watches this lot day in day out. Sess wasn’t getting forward enough. So Regs should of come on. Not sure why he brought Royal on. He should kept with the set up and taken Son off for bergs.

I thought Conte did the right thing personally changing it back. The players however are an embarrassment.

 

[wrd]

Btw its ludicrous that Conte should sacrifice his tactics and philosophy for this group of players.

Either fit in his 3-4-3/3-5-2 system or f*ck off

They can't fuck off until the transfer window opens.

So he needs to find a solution to get results now because whether he likes it or not, this is the group of players he has and he's absolutely entitled to decide that it's more important to him to play 3-4-3/3-5-2 and do things specifically his way but if he can't find the right 11 to make his tactics work then ultimately it will be him who suffers the consequences when the players he wants aren't interested in playing on Thursdays.

 

[Mr Pink]

At the end of the day, until we buy some serious players...

We are where we are...

Even a class manager like Conte doesn't have a magic wand.

 

[Saoirse]

100% behind Conte.

For me, it's really very simple. With a core four across the pitch of Doherty, Winks, Hojberg and Sessegnon, you have zero chance of controlling a game and will create few chances.

There simply are not the personnel to field a semi-effective core. Bentacaur is a big improvement when fit.

People may think it an exaggeration. But having seen this level of performance under five consecutive managers, it's the only conclusion I can reach.

The CBs, Lloris, and forwards are broadly fine-ish. But we need a total overhaul at CM and WB. Bentancaur looks good and Reguillon can be a rotation option, the rest need to be replaced.

 

[gibbospurs]

Btw its ludicrous that Conte should sacrifice his tactics and philosophy for this group of players.

Either fit in his 3-4-3/3-5-2 system or f*ck off

If the players are so thick they can’t work it out then he should set a team up to work. No other manager in a different job would be let to keep making things worse. And it is getting worse. How can we improve drastically and push on and most fans start saying the players just needed coaching properly to the squad is shit in 2 month?

 

[Saoirse]

They can't fuck off until the transfer window opens.

So he needs to find a solution to get results now because whether he likes it or not, this is the group of players he has and he's absolutely entitled to decide that it's more important to him to play 3-4-3/3-5-2 and do things specifically his way but if he can't find the right 11 to make his tactics work then ultimately it will be him who suffers the consequences when the players he wants aren't interested in playing on Thursdays.

We have to seriously consider, five managers into this mess, that the solution you're demanding with the current squad simply does not exist.

 

[tiger666]

At the end of the day, until we buy some serious players...

We are where we are...

Even a class manager like Conte doesn't have a magic wand.

It's fucking Middlesboro

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Tbh I’ve never really been a fan of Conte’s tactics. I love his passion but last year watching Inter I found it incredibly rigid and dull a lot of the time despite them winning the league. It Just felt like there was a lack of attacking flair when it came to patterns of play, everything had to be done in one way and when it didn’t work there where no other options. I also felt that Inter struggled against certain teams and especially in Europe when Inter had two games a week as Conte likes his prep time. That all being said Inter were obviously overall very successful and very consistent.

When it came to us getting a new manger my personal choice was Ten Hag as I just didn’t want to have to watch more Conte ball as personally I get more enjoyment from attacking high press football rather then a more methodical defensive approach. But all that being said there are certain facts that one just can’t ignore. Conte is the only manger who would ever be able to get Levy to spend the kind of money that is needed to drag this team out of the dark ages. He’s also one of the only managers that will be brutal when dealing with who’s good enough to stay and who isn’t (aside from Winks it seems). And obviously most importantly he is a winner and can not stand loosing. As much as I’m not really a fan of his football I think he is exactly what we need right now as the benefits greatly out way the negatives, espechially when the negatives are more tied into the enjoyment of the spectacle of football more then anything else.

It is true that of late he's made a few questionable choices and I mentioned a month ago that he shouldn’t be above reproach, but I think until he has a team that he built it’s impossible to really judge him. I think next season will be very different, it might still be defensive but I think it will be a lot more balanced then it is currently and consistency won’t be near as much of an issue as it is currently. There Is a reason he hates going to teams halfway through a season, and that reason is exactly the situation we currently find ourselves in. Because his tactics are so rigid players that aren’t capable of playing in his system cause a massive problem for his entire game plan. Without having a preseason and only one window he’s still largely working with square pegs in round holes. This results In exactly we have been witnessing in recent weeks. Unfortunatly this means, for all intense and purposes, this season is pretty much over and is essentially a prolonged pre season. Hopefully we will somehow blag top 4 but I’m expecting plenty more good wins mixed with absolute shit.

 

[isaac94]

im conte in, but he must also take a lot of the blame for tonight

 

[Danfunkel]

My only gripe with him tonight was not changing it up that bit sooner. Other than that, he needs quality and he needs it this summer. It’s been said time and time again this won’t be a quick fix. #painfulrebuild

 

[wrd]

We have to seriously consider, five managers into this mess, that the solution you're demanding with the current squad simply does not exist.

Ultimately I disagree because I'm not suggesting that he can find the ways to go toe to toe with the likes of Chelsea, City, Liverpool or even Arsenal or United but I am certainly suggesting that solutions can be found to beat Middlesbrough.

 

[gibbospurs]

I thought Conte did the right thing personally changing it back. The players however are an embarrassment.

Exactly. So he basically shouldn’t of changed it? Hate all this finger pointing. We all want the same thing. What a crap time we’re having. Just don’t see a massive spend in the summer. And if we do we are going with a formation of a manager that moves on within 2 years. its hardly building.

 

[double0]

If the players are so thick they can’t work it out then he should set a team up to work. No other manager in a different job would be let to keep making things worse. And it is getting worse. How can we improve drastically and push on and most fans start saying the players just needed coaching properly to the squad is shit in 2 month?

Its not so much the system but the players. Conte has got us running more sprinting more he has squeeze every drop physically out of the squad unfortunately you can't polish shit

 

[VoteMe4Prez]

Sorry but he was way too slow to react tonight and there was no excuse for this performance, even with that midfield playing.