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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

Finchyid

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Doherty's strengths are:

Offensive movement - Specifically making diagonal runs from wide starting position into an inside forward position in the box.
Making the most of touches in opponents box (goals / assists).
Defending the back post on set pieces.
(for these three attributes I would rate him higher than our other RBs)

His weaknesses are:

He is not that great at crossing form wide positions (bit none of our RBs are that great at this).
He cannot beat a man with the ball i.e. dribbling (ditto - Tanganga os probably the best at this in an uncontrolled way).
Defending against a pacy winger (he is the worst at this but will be less shown up in a 3-5-2).

He has been pretty (if not spectacularly) rubbish since joining, but Conte may see something that can be used in the short term. I'd be amazed if he is still here next season.

I thought his only strength was warming the bench
 
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Cochise

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I'm thinking that in a system with two CM's N'Dombele would be fine. The width at the back is covered by the centre backs, so he's not going to be forced to chase runners behind our fullbacks, nor is the role one which forces him to sprint up the field all the time. Alongside Skipp , Hojbjerg has played a fairly positionally rigid role, sitting in front of the back three.

I think N'Dombele could be perfect for that role.
 

Joshua shepherd

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According to members on here, we should be getting rid of Doherty, Reggie, PEH, Gio, Ndombele, Skipp, Emerson and countless others.
As none of them are "good enough", nor will be.
Without even taking into consideration how shite and directionless we've been over the past couple of years, some have only been here 5 minutes!

I'm quite happy to leave decisions up to Conte and Paratici, about who they feel will work out for the club.


The truth is though, not many of those mentioned above (if any) would get into the teams we are hoping to compete with.

Now obviously it’s not gonna be the case that we get rid of all of them and I’m hopeful the great man can get a tune out of the two full backs but truthfully, I would be surprised if in 3 years our team still includes over half of those mentioned.
 

McFlash

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The truth is though, not many of those mentioned above (if any) would get into the teams we are hoping to compete with.

Now obviously it’s not gonna be the case that we get rid of all of them and I’m hopeful the great man can get a tune out of the two full backs but truthfully, I would be surprised if in 3 years our team still includes over half of those mentioned.
I don't know, apart from the Doc and Hojbjerg, the others are all still young enough to learn and improve. Most of them are still under 25.
Now I don't think they were either learning, or improving under Jose and Nuno but hopefully, Conte will be somewhat more forward thinking.
 

Joshua shepherd

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I don't know, apart from the Doc and Hojbjerg, the others are all still young enough to learn and improve. Most of them are still under 25.
Now I don't think they were either learning, or improving under Jose and Nuno but hopefully, Conte will be somewhat more forward thinking.

I hope you’re right mate, just, we’ve seen ndombele and gio for the third year in a row and it’s been mostly miss rather than hit. Skippy id like to think will develop nicely and the full backs we’ll give a completely fresh start to so wait and see. Realistically they should be as important as anyone in our team moving forward so they have all the opportunity in the world now, just hope they take it.
 

allatsea

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You're being hopeful, I reckon about 60% of the posters I've read on here, are already convinced they know where he is going wrong.
Strange they are posting on SC rather than actually doing the job somewhere and proving they know more than a Manager like Conte.
Laurie Brown? That brings back some vague memories. Mid/late -1960s?
Didn't we buy him from the Gooners, where he played centre half and we made him our centre forward? Or the other way round?
Even the great Billy Nick had the occasional blind spot!
Very strange purchase and a terrible mistake. In the end after some appalling performances at Centre Forward Billy Nick put in at Centre Half but he wasn’t really any better there.
 

hellava_tough

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Some interesting insights there:

(i) Paratici seems to be an elite level DoF (or whatever his title is)

(ii) They seem to be genuinely going for it; giving Conte the power and resources to compete at the highest level

I'm intrigued with the second bit because I think most of us would imagine that we'd need to spend £250m(+) to get this squad to the top of the PL. And we've never come close to spending huge amounts in the transfer market, compared to other big clubs.

But then again, with good coaching and some decent freebies, we might be able to save ourselves a substantial amount of money in this area.

Anyway, for me I'm intrigued to see what we do in the Jan transfer window (and of course summer). I'm quietly optimistic that things may be changing for the better.
 

diamond lights

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Some interesting insights there:

(i) Paratici seems to be an elite level DoF (or whatever his title is)

(ii) They seem to be genuinely going for it; giving Conte the power and resources to compete at the highest level

I'm intrigued with the second bit because I think most of us would imagine that we'd need to spend £250m(+) to get this squad to the top of the PL. And we've never come close to spending huge amounts in the transfer market, compared to other big clubs.

But then again, with good coaching and some decent freebies, we might be able to save ourselves a substantial amount of money in this area.

Anyway, for me I'm intrigued to see what we do in the Jan transfer window (and of course summer). I'm quietly optimistic that things may be changing for the better.
Not so sure. Say three players at average of £50 mill plus a couple of freebies. That could make a big difference. We have Lloris, Romero, Emerson , Reggie, Skipp, Hojbjerg, N'Dombele, Lo Celso, Son and Kane plus 5 - Conte could definitely make a top side from that. 2 new cbs, new midfielder, creative midfielder, striker plus Sarr next summer. Could have really good options not even counting money that may be raised from sales.
 

hellava_tough

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Not so sure. Say three players at average of £50 mill plus a couple of freebies. That could make a big difference. We have Lloris, Romero, Emerson , Reggie, Skipp, Hojbjerg, N'Dombele, Lo Celso, Son and Kane plus 5 - Conte could definitely make a top side from that. 2 new cbs, new midfielder, creative midfielder, striker plus Sarr next summer. Could have really good options not even counting money that may be raised from sales.

Yeah, you could be right.

He's certainly going to have to get the best out of 5 or 6 existing players, who are under-performing.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Some interesting insights there:

(i) Paratici seems to be an elite level DoF (or whatever his title is)

(ii) They seem to be genuinely going for it; giving Conte the power and resources to compete at the highest level

I'm intrigued with the second bit because I think most of us would imagine that we'd need to spend £250m(+) to get this squad to the top of the PL. And we've never come close to spending huge amounts in the transfer market, compared to other big clubs.

But then again, with good coaching and some decent freebies, we might be able to save ourselves a substantial amount of money in this area.

Anyway, for me I'm intrigued to see what we do in the Jan transfer window (and of course summer). I'm quietly optimistic that things may be changing for the better.


Thanks for that mate.

I can never really be arsed to watch the vids that people post (and I'll bet I'm not the only one) so your little rundown is much appreciated. (y)
 
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ukdy

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Watched how Levy has handled things in the last few years?? An utter shambles. Fact.

I’ve no problem with Conte, but he is no miracle worker. Levy will still have final say.
I think the final say may just be on financial terms, Fabio will present the football case and Antonio likely will be on board with a signing at this point too (considering he and Fab work so closely) - So long as the payment structure works for DL, I can't see there being any major roadblocks for good well priced players. That's why FP & AC are onboard. Levy has to put some trust in them.

There's likely a threshold, below which FP has complete autonomy (of course the board still have to sign-off) but for anything 'worldie' outside of this bracket... of course an owner and chairman is going to have final say or pay it more attention. It'd be stupid to think otherwise.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Watched how Levy has handled things in the last few years?? An utter shambles. Fact.

I’ve no problem with Conte, but he is no miracle worker. Levy will still have final say.

I think the final say may just be on financial terms, Fabio will present the football case and Antonio likely will be on board with a signing at this point too (considering he and Fab work so closely) - So long as the payment structure works for DL, I can't see there being any major roadblocks for good well priced players. That's why FP & AC are onboard. Levy has to put some trust in them.

There's likely a threshold, below which FP has complete autonomy (of course the board still have to sign-off) but for anything 'worldie' outside of this bracket... of course an owner and chairman is going to have final say or pay it more attention. It'd be stupid to think otherwise.


Get in!

Fucking love a good Levy debate. We should have more of them.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Some interesting insights there:

(i) Paratici seems to be an elite level DoF (or whatever his title is)

(ii) They seem to be genuinely going for it; giving Conte the power and resources to compete at the highest level

I'm intrigued with the second bit because I think most of us would imagine that we'd need to spend £250m(+) to get this squad to the top of the PL. And we've never come close to spending huge amounts in the transfer market, compared to other big clubs.

But then again, with good coaching and some decent freebies, we might be able to save ourselves a substantial amount of money in this area.

Anyway, for me I'm intrigued to see what we do in the Jan transfer window (and of course summer). I'm quietly optimistic that things may be changing for the better.

I really wouldn't get your hopes up for the January transfer window. It's notorously difficult to do business in. And I'm sure any business woud be reliant on us shipping a few out first - which isn't going to be easy with clubs still feeling the economic fallout from the pandemic.
 
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