Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[TheChosenOne]

Four wimp out defeats to Chelsea in 11 months. Criminal.

 

[mendesstormer]

I'm a big fan of Conte so far, but there were some odd team selections last night. Why pick Gollini when Lloris is available? - he's already shown he can't be trusted. Why not play Rodon and keep Sanchez in his usual position? Strangest of all, what would make anyone pick Doherty on the left ahead of Sess?

 

[Deleted member 29446]

He's isn't walking ffs, we're 13 days into his first window. He walks earliest in the end of the summer if he isn't backed. People need to give their head a wobble!

 

[Spursberg]

i hear alot of talk in the media like, Conte would never come if he were not promised signings. i Do not believe he was promised anything huge hence why he signed a contract for 18 months.
ofc they probably talked about their plans, but does not mean they will pay whatever to get his players.

if a promise of gold was made he would sign a longer deal. i do not buy his talk of "he needs to earn a longer contract" (only my personal opinion though)

 

[alfiemacdaddy]

Clearly this is the weakest squad he has worked with since siena in 2011. After the luxury of the Juve, Chelsea and Inter squads just hope he has the resilience to build and develop during a transitional period rather than tweak and fine tune world class players into a winning machine.

As everyone is saying we obviously need to back him but it's going to take time. I love the appointment but hiring a completer/finisher coach rather than a project manager when we are in the middle of a massive change arc does seem odd at times.

Completely back him just hope DL hasn't set him up for a fall.

 

[Amo]

I blame Poch for the constant bed wetting over whether Conte is going to leave or not. Seems like after years of watching him flash his knickers every time the Utd or PSG job came available i think we're all conditioned to just assume that Conte is going to do the same after every defeat.

I find it quite sad that looking back in hindsight he probably didn't even want to leave for them and that they were botched attempts at internal politicking. The guy was always shit at the politics and never really consolidated any power despite his achievements. Friend Levy had him spinning on his finger.

The childish miscalculated posturing at the end of his time here juxtaposed with the clearly devastated Poch after being sacked just makes me sad.

 

[Joshua shepherd]

I'm a big fan of Conte so far, but there were some odd team selections last night. Why pick Gollini when Lloris is available? - he's already shown he can't be trusted. Why not play Rodon and keep Sanchez in his usual position? Strangest of all, what would make anyone pick Doherty on the left ahead of Sess?

To be fair, the only decision that makes no sense is the goalkeeper one. There were 8 spots last night that could have been taken by an alternative and it wouldn't have made a single bit of difference to the way we played or the outcome of the game. We were relying on either Kane to reignite himself or Moura to recreate Ajax. If neither of those things happened we were out.

Skipp/Hoijberg or Winks - no difference to outcome.
Doherty or Sessegnon - no difference to outcome.
Tanganga/Davies/Sanchez or Rodon - no difference to outcome.
Lo Celso or Gil - no difference to outcome.
Emerson or anyone who could be shoehorned into rb - no difference to outcome.

The above just shows the absolute state of our current team and squad and the only blame Conte shoulders is to rest Hugo.

 

[bubble07]

I'm a big fan of Conte so far, but there were some odd team selections last night. Why pick Gollini when Lloris is available? - he's already shown he can't be trusted. Why not play Rodon and keep Sanchez in his usual position? Strangest of all, what would make anyone pick Doherty on the left ahead of Sess?

Yep. It's so frustrating when I can't see logical sense to these decisions

 

[mendesstormer]

To be fair, the only decision that makes no sense is the goalkeeper one. There were 8 spots last night that could have been taken by an alternative and it wouldn't have made a single bit of difference to the way we played or the outcome of the game. We were relying on either Kane to reignite himself or Moura to recreate Ajax. If neither of those things happened we were out.

Skipp/Hoijberg or Winks - no difference to outcome.
Doherty or Sessegnon - no difference to outcome.
Tanganga/Davies/Sanchez or Rodon - no difference to outcome.
Lo Celso or Gil - no difference to outcome.
Emerson or anyone who could be shoehorned into rb - no difference to outcome.

The above just shows the absolute state of our current team and squad and the only blame Conte shoulders is to rest Hugo.

We don't know that though, do we? If Rodon played and assume Sanchez then marked Rudiger instead of Tanganga, maybe he doesn't lose him at the corner and we don't concede. If Sess played and got a couple of decent crosses in maybe we score too. Then we win the game.

It's not a given, obviously. The point is he shuffled the defence around and played at least two players out of position as a result. That wasn't necessary with the players we had available.

 

[kaz Hirai]

I'm sure he will be backed, you wouldn't hire him if your plan was just to expect him to work miracles with a mid table team and developing academy prospects . Be totally the wrong coach to hire . In that case might as well have just kept timid Nuno until he can convince poch to come back and try a miracle again.
And Conte would have made his expectations crystal clear, seems like a real straight shooter

Levy can certainly get away with the line about it being tough in Jan to find value, hence no signings. but in the summer he has no place to hide even if money isn't raided from the player sales

 

[Joshua shepherd]

We don't know that though, do we? If Rodon played and assume Sanchez then marked Rudiger instead of Tanganga, maybe he doesn't lose him at the corner and we don't concede. If Sess played and got a couple of decent crosses in maybe we score too. Then we win the game.

It's not a given, obviously. The point is he shuffled the defence around and played at least two players out of position as a result. That wasn't necessary with the players we had available.

Alternatively, Rodon could make a couple of mistakes and Sess could give away a penalty and we lose the game 3-0. Of course it's impossible to give the exact final score but over the years of watching these players, you can be pretty damn confident that if we'd started Sessegnon and Rodon instead of Tanganga and Doherty, Chelsea would still be going to Wembley.

 

[Gb160]

Yep. It's so frustrating when I can't see logical sense to these decisions

There’s no shame in admitting you don’t understand the thought process and choices that elite managers make mate.

 

[bubble07]

Conte seems broken lads

 

[DarwinSpur]

Calling it now. He and Paratici will walk before next season.

This may very well be true but it would reflect incredibly poorly on them rather than our club.

You can't agree to take on a job and quit before even one summer transfer window unless you are tacitly saying I can only manage teams that are massively financially superior to its competition".

Which is what Juventus, Chelsea and Inter all were in the seasons Conte managed them.

I can't believe a manager like Conte would call for patience one week then stomp out the next.

He may, however, get sick and tired of Spurs fans expecting the world when they currently have the on-field power of Liechten-fucking-stein...

 

[bubble07]

There’s no shame in admitting you don’t understand the thought process and choices that elite managers make mate.

True but resting a GK when the back up can't even catch a cold in a pandemic cost us and we ALL knew this. Their first goal killed the game stone dead

 

[Gb160]

True but resting a GK when the back up can't even catch a cold in a pandemic cost us and we ALL knew this. Their first goal killed the game stone dead

I don’t get why he played Golloni, he seems dreadful, but I’m sure there were valid and logical reasons behind it.
If I got frustrated about everything in life I don’t understand I’d probably lose the plot.

 

[Danny1]

Questions of Conte are absurd. Last night he was without Romero, Dier, Reguilon & Sonny. Sessegnon maybe wasn't fit enough to start & maybe Lloris was under the weather or whatever, we don't know.

However, if you took out the 2 best centre backs, the best left back & his back up & the second best player from any side they would struggle a bit. I include Liverpool etc in that. We know that our second string side isn't good enough so there isn't an awful lot that Conte could have changed from last night. Literally the only change could have been Lloris but we don't know the reason & possibly Skipp but the young lad may be in need of a rest and/or keeping him fresh for Sunday.

We have an incredibly limited squad full of distinctly 'ok' players. We then have a few good players and a couple of world class players. We are the side in the top 6/7 that get hit the most when we lose first team players.

That is the fault of Lewis, Levy & Hitchen for putting this squad together. I feel that we need up to 8 players in the next two windows to be even within a chance of getting top 4 personally, as I think we are currently in a false position in the league, we have a lot of incredibly difficult games coming up.

Get a GK, CB, RWB, CM, CM, AM, RW & ST in & then we will be in a position to challenge for things, until then we will continue to see the same weak minded performances from the same weak minded players that we have done for the last 3 years.

 

[joelstinton14]

Assume the lloris decision yesterday was him sending message to Levy / Paratici that our back up isn't good enough so sort lloris contract out.
We didn't stand a chance of getting through last night and Conte, even though he's a winner, will have known that so it was a risk free way of sending message to bosses about how important lloris is given the back up is so shit

If it was a message from Conte, that’s really poor. You don’t drop your captain for a semi final 2nd leg when we still have a chance. You are still in the game 2-0 down. With the players we have there was always going to be a moment where we could get back in the game and that almost happened last night in the second half.

Chelsea over the two legs showed they are a much superior side to us at the moment. But thats something we didn’t already know. We’re a 5/6/7th team at the moment. We competing with Arsenal and Leicester (and UTD?) for the final CL place. Under Conte so far we are in a much better position now when we were in November. We got a shot of 4th.

Conte as been brilliant so far. But this is the sort of behaviour some fans were wary of when we first approached him last year. I think it’s fine to put pressure on the board through public messaging. All managers do it to some degree, but I think Conte as shifted the mood from optimism (we’re unbeaten in the league since he took over) to some sort of panic. It was really unnecessary. Some of that may be down to mistranslation - the Ndombele stuff post match for example or fans simply being entitled/over reactionary/instant gratification and we’re worrying over nothing. But this feels like a mess of his own making. And what message does it send to the players? And what of Conte himself? Picking a side because he felt it didn’t matter if we had those players in or not? He is just expecting to lose anyway? The Liverpool game should have told him something different. You don’t send your sides out expecting to lose.

I really hope Lloris was just under the weather and this is all bed wetting.

 

[danielneeds]

Conte seems broken lads

FFS, the bedwetting on here. He doesn't like losing, of course he's gonna be upset after the matches, particularly against his old club. What do we, expect, him to be doing a merry jig in the post-match presser?

 

[YB123]

Conte seems broken lads

Hes been like this all through his career after a defeat, its like the end of the world for him. Chill.