Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[Jamturk]

At best Conte has served up self pitying nonsense.

He appears to be a tap in merchant, a chance to build a real legacy and he can't deal with the journey.

Grow the fuck up.

 

[SpursSince1980]

In some ways it's a shame Nuno didn't have to be sacked and replaced by Conte until after the January window. Almost feel like an impatient Conte has arrived too early/too late however you want to look at it. He needs to take a pre season and oversee a summer window before he can convince himself he needs to jack it in surely. Of course if ENIC don't facilitate that early on then that's a different story.

Agree with all of that. Though, if he knows that this season is an assessment period, I am surprised he hasn’t experimented a bit more. EG… why not give Rodon a run of games with Dier and Romero? Or, try different formations. Or, give some minutes to the likes of White? Instead, he is trotting out a similar lineup each time with the same flaws. Soton, Wolves and Burnley all executed a similar game plan. It was almost too easy for them to out maneuver Conte. As it’s clear his tactics against teams that may be more defensive, are flawed. It was obvious going into the Burnley game that they would have to play very differently than they did against City. Approach the game knowing Burnley would be a very solid defensive unit that would seek out itsy bitsty fouls around the box for set piece opportunities. Lo and behold, it all worked out perfectly.

 

[mattspur1]

Here comes Ali Gold (Sounds positive to me)

Conte has been reluctant to criticise his players in public but football.london understands that privately he has felt let down by some of their performances, including the latest one on a rain-swept night in Burnley.

How the same starting XI that tore the champions Manchester City apart on numerous occasions on Saturday could struggle to barely make a dent in a team battling against relegation a few days later has brought plenty of frustration to the coaching staff.

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However, those around him believe his emotional statements were more of a challenge to the players, putting pressure on them to perform.

I just called that in the post above. I'm off into journalism!!

 

[wrd]

Here comes Ali Gold (Sounds positive to me)

Conte has been reluctant to criticise his players in public but football.london understands that privately he has felt let down by some of their performances, including the latest one on a rain-swept night in Burnley.

How the same starting XI that tore the champions Manchester City apart on numerous occasions on Saturday could struggle to barely make a dent in a team battling against relegation a few days later has brought plenty of frustration to the coaching staff.

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However, those around him believe his emotional statements were more of a challenge to the players, putting pressure on them to perform.

Have to say I completely agree with his sentiment, different mentality from the players than previously but I hope Conte is the man to find the solutions vs teams who sit deep. I think there's a few things he could try but we'll see.

 

[Japhet]

I don't think I've ever seen a manager come into a club mid-season and turn them into world beaters within what, 4-5 months? it'll take time.

All these losses are going to happen (they always do when a manager takes over a squad he clearly wants to change) and they will continue to do so until the end of the season, we will of course win a few games too. We're not ready for top 4, winning last night wouldn't of changed anything in terms of getting it. This squad still needs so much work which will hopefully get done this summer.

Anybody that has seen conte before at other clubs should know he can be very outspoken, he's a passionate dude, yeah it annoys me too but that's just how he is. But he's still the best guy to have in charge.

We're not ready for top 4, but I don't think many/any of the other contenders are ready for it either, an therein lies a glimmer of hope.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

People don't want positive ITK though. I tried to say last night that it was an emotional response, regardless of what Conte said about it not being. There is no chance that the response had absolutely nothing to do with last night's performance. Therefore there was some emotion invovled, he can't just switch them off. I tried to say this and tried to say he would be backed in the summer but I get a remark about needing X amount of Unicorn emojis to rate my post which I quite frankly found incredibly insulting and therefore deleted the post. Then several jump on the back of it and agree with said post. I'm tired of trying to tell you the plan and trying to remain positive. This place is toxic at times and people just sweep the positive ITK to the side to fit their own agenda. Well I'm done for now, I've been told a few things after last night but quite frankly, I can't be bothered with some of the responses it will inevitably get! Previous ITK has been lost due to some individuals going after what they post and I might not be the best out there, but I can assure you I get very solid info from within the club and pass it on with the best intentions. People need to be careful, because soon enough, there won't be any left on here.

I actually just laugh at the toxicity now as they have one truth and that's it. If Conte walked now it would look bad on him not Levy. They hired him, cleared a lot of players he wanted rid of, got some in he wanted and have promised him more. What else can be done. ENIC have said they've got it wrong the last few years and have made big moves to rectify it. Our financials are totally different to 5, 3 or even 1 year ago.
This thread in the last 12h is symptomatic of social media in general, those with the biggest gobs and most toxic opinions shout it the loudest and most often.
Me and many others really appreciate the ITK, that you and others provide. This bad run will end, Conte will calm down and we will make moves in the transfer window.

 

[dagraham]

Is it a 'silent' message to the players? Maybe subliminally telling them to up their game or he walks?

If it is it’s the loudest “silent” message I’ve ever heard

 

[Ledley's Right Foot]

Interested to hear what Simon Jordan makes of it on TS at 10. He tends to talk so much sense

Just heard him:: not the best way to do it but it's a message to the players.

 

[WiganSpur]

I don't think I've ever seen a manager come into a club mid-season and turn them into world beaters within what, 4-5 months? it'll take time.

All these losses are going to happen (they always do when a manager takes over a squad he clearly wants to change) and they will continue to do so until the end of the season, we will of course win a few games too. We're not ready for top 4, winning last night wouldn't of changed anything in terms of getting it. This squad still needs so much work which will hopefully get done this summer.

Anybody that has seen conte before at other clubs should know he can be very outspoken, he's a passionate dude, yeah it annoys me too but that's just how he is. But he's still the best guy to have in charge.

Tuchel. Although the Chelsea side had just come off the back of mega bucks spent.

Agree with all of that. Though, if he knows that this season is an assessment period, I am surprised he hasn’t experimented a bit more. EG… why not give Rodon a run of games with Dier and Romero? Or, try different formations. Or, give some minutes to the likes of White? Instead, he is trotting out a similar lineup each time with the same flaws. Soton, Wolves and Burnley all executed a similar game plan. It was almost too easy for them to out maneuver Conte. As it’s clear his tactics against teams that may be more defensive, are flawed. It was obvious going into the Burnley game that they would have to play very differently than they did against City. Approach the game knowing Burnley would be a very solid defensive unit that would seek out itsy bitsty fouls around the box for set piece opportunities. Lo and behold, it all worked out perfectly.

He did change it after the Wolves game though. Brought Hojbjerg and Kulusevski in. With Rodon, i'm guessing he would have been under strong consideration to usurp Sanchez had Dier not been back fit. Trying White or Devine above Winks is one I don't quite get though i'll give you that, or a youth player at RWB.

 

[RuskyM]

bit sick of being told “we’ll spend a lot of money and clear out the deadwood”. we’ve had a revolving door of players, many of whom we’ve seen do well elsewhere. how many players have actually developed in that time though? how many youth players have become ingrained in the team? imagine how much we’d have saved if we’d just used KWP ffs.

 

[Yiddo100]

If it was all to get the players to shape up I’m sure there was less destructive ways to go about it

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

People don't want positive ITK though. I tried to say last night that it was an emotional response, regardless of what Conte said about it not being. There is no chance that the response had absolutely nothing to do with last night's performance. Therefore there was some emotion invovled, he can't just switch them off. I tried to say this and tried to say he would be backed in the summer but I get a remark about needing X amount of Unicorn emojis to rate my post which I quite frankly found incredibly insulting and therefore deleted the post. Then several jump on the back of it and agree with said post. I'm tired of trying to tell you the plan and trying to remain positive. This place is toxic at times and people just sweep the positive ITK to the side to fit their own agenda. Well I'm done for now, I've been told a few things after last night but quite frankly, I can't be bothered with some of the responses it will inevitably get! Previous ITK has been lost due to some individuals going after what they post and I might not be the best out there, but I can assure you I get very solid info from within the club and pass it on with the best intentions. People need to be careful, because soon enough, there won't be any left on here.

Thanks for sharing mate and try not to lose faith. I agree it can be toxic on here at times and certainly more recently unfortunately for a number of reasons but the majority are rational, realistic and positive its just that the neysayers and negative nancies or just the plain deluded shout a bit louder and more often so that 'noise' can be felt a bit more strongly at times.

You and the other ITK's are much appreciated and I completely agree with your sentiment on Conte.

That being said his comments last night were a little concerning even to the most positive Spurs and Conte fan and we know he has history of flipping and leaving, its happened at pretty much all of his previous big club jobs but its clear he's just very frustrated and not used to losing this often and he wants it to change in the immediate term and he also knows and has repeated the need for time and patcience.

I know you joked yesterday but lets also not forget... HE'S ITALIAN

COYS

 

[dude573]

If Conte leaves his reputation will in no way be damaged. Poch was sacked and after year of flirting with United, he landed the PSG job. Even Mourinho was hired by Roma after the farce he had here. Everyone in football more or less accepts that good managers can fail at Spurs because of the ownership and players.

It reaks to me of Ancelotti and Everton. They had a project with up and down results - big wins against us and Liverpool yet defeats to teams like Sheffield United and Fulham.

In the end Ancelotti walked at the first big opportunity when Madrid came calling. Why spend 3/4 years trying to make Everton competitive, when you could go to a bigger club in the CL with double the recourses. I don't think Conte wants to quit, but the danger is that he will jump ship at the moment a bigger club contacts him.

 

[Harrier]

Waking up to see his quotes from last night.

I think everyone needs to stop taking his words at face value every single time. Media are going to lap this up though. Levy needs to have a word with him being such a loose cannon in these interviews.

Definitely!

He’s an emotional type and needs to cool off or temper his words before the presser.

I think it’s probably time to look at conversion of a winger to RWB to help his system.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

The man conducting the interview, Sam Matterface, has said that the last question he asked Antonio was "Will you be Spurs manager this Saturday?"

He says that Conte then stormed out of the interview, saying "I'm finished, finished, I'm out".

That last line is DEFINITELY regarding the interview, not his job, of course, but the fact that he couldn't answer the question says a lot.

The guy has had nothing but questions about his future since the minute he took the job.

Maybe he was saying he's finished with that bollocks? I could certainly understand it.

 

[Harrier]

Simon Jordan talking sense this morning as usual.

He thought his outburst was unwise and temperamental, but thought Conte wasn’t going anywhere anytime soon and that he felt it was a ‘call to action to the players’.

 

[Dr Know]

The thing is we’re trying to punch above our weight. We don’t have the players to be able to win the league. I know we did well under Poch for a while but that was maybe down to the other team around us not being up to par rather than us being that great (similar to West Ham now). We had Jose who should have been a great manager for us and now we have one of the best. The thing is these managers are only successful with being able to buy whoever they want for crazy money and that’s where we fall short. We could hire Pep and still be in the same shit.
I’m surprised by Conte’s comments because I’m sure he was told what would be available to him (funds) however he really is an emotional guy and maybe even a spoilt brat that’s throwing his toys out of the pram because he lost 4 games out of 5 and he’s never been in this situation before. I’m not even worried about him walking tbh, that would show the mentality of the man. I’m sure if he sticks to the game plan and have a summer window to get what he wants to suit his style of play, we might just make it into the CL spot. To win the league would take huge investment and I’m not sure Levy would be able to sleep if he spent over £90+ for a player.
Guys we’re here to support the club, not individuals. If Conte decides to leave we will still be here……….so will Levy…..unfortunately

COYS

 

[Lifelong]

The guy has had nothing but questions about his future since the minute he took the job.

Maybe he was saying he's finished with that bollocks? I could certainly understand it.

The vast majority of the media in this country are absolute scumbags…..always pushing people to the limit and feasting on negativity…what a wonderful way to earn a living……

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

People don't want positive ITK though. I tried to say last night that it was an emotional response, regardless of what Conte said about it not being. There is no chance that the response had absolutely nothing to do with last night's performance. Therefore there was some emotion invovled, he can't just switch them off. I tried to say this and tried to say he would be backed in the summer but I get a remark about needing X amount of Unicorn emojis to rate my post which I quite frankly found incredibly insulting and therefore deleted the post. Then several jump on the back of it and agree with said post. I'm tired of trying to tell you the plan and trying to remain positive. This place is toxic at times and people just sweep the positive ITK to the side to fit their own agenda. Well I'm done for now, I've been told a few things after last night but quite frankly, I can't be bothered with some of the responses it will inevitably get! Previous ITK has been lost due to some individuals going after what they post and I might not be the best out there, but I can assure you I get very solid info from within the club and pass it on with the best intentions. People need to be careful, because soon enough, there won't be any left on here.

This place has become extremely toxic the past 1-2 years, it's one of the reasons I don't engage as much anymore. I have no idea why, but SC used to be a much more positive place even in the face of a ton of BS.

Now it seems even the smallest thing is turned into a negative shitball/argument and quite frankly, its hard to sift through all of that to get to the 10-15% of the members who can keep a level head and post something positive.

I can only imagine how much harder it must be, to have to post ITK and have it shat on by someone who can't control their emotions.

 

[Matthew]

Wow we could be having 5 mangers in just over a year...

not even jesus could sort this shit out.