Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[TPdYID]

We’ll I’m not because It’s luck because he’s managed to exploit his old club which he cannot do with other clubs. It’s a club that’s been proven to be entirely corrupt.

DoF and agents get together all the time to discuss possible transfers. It’s not luck! It’s called prior planning.

The world of football is rife with the mantra “it’s not what you know, it’s who you know” bla bla.

It’s therefore the DoF job to know more people! (Agents included).

I repeat, it’s not luck. It’s good recruitment.

 

[Trent Crimm]

You're making things up. He's never said that.

He said it in the mirror at home to his self. ?

 

[dudu]

Just seems like everything is going to hinge on what we spend, and who we spend it on this Jan.

We had some talks and by the sound of it, everyone now knows where they stand. If the club can match Conte's ambition, it sounds like he will be happy to continue on as our manager and if we don't, he will do one.

No one can say Levy didn't show some willingness to spend (Richarlison) and bring in older players (Perisic) in the summer, so hopefully we can continue to do what is necessary to keep Conte happy.

 

[SpursSince1980]

because if he gets fired and doesn't resign he gets the rest of his contract.

But I thought he was a man of principles and it’s not about money for him. It’s about pride. Guess it’s a bit of both.

 

[SpursSince1980]

He's exactly the right fit for a club such as ours, just not for Levy imo. We have a world class stadium, a world class training ground and a world class front line, so why should we employ a two bit manager? Conte is a serial winner, we haven't won anything of real note for decades, yet he still came here, why? It wasn't for the money it was because he saw what we did have and believed with the right backing he could win here too. He's not asking for billions he just wants a different profile of player to what Levy wants, and he wants full autonomy of who goes.

I've been a big defender of DL in the past because he always spoke about the infrastructure being the problem and when we had that in place things would change. Well here we are, and it's just more rinse and repeat I'm afraid. The only way we move forward now imo is if Levy steps/is moved aside. He can still be chairman and deal with all the commercial shit(he's excellent at it) but it won't matter who we bring in as head coach if they are constantly held back on the football side of things because the chairman thinks he knows better.

That paints a very bleak picture of our situation. Breaks my heart, to be honest. As Levy will not step aside. Meaning, we are and will remain in a frustrating quagmire of mediocrity until Levy leaves.

Yay.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Its not lucky he has knowledge of his old club. He signed them for his old club as well, surely.

We hired him for his knowledge and he's using it well. Same with Romero.

The three of them are close to world class, and I’m sure most of us are pleased to have Richarlison here too. Before Paratici we were lucky if we signed one player who genuinely improved the first team every few years.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

He's exactly the right fit for a club such as ours, just not for Levy imo. We have a world class stadium, a world class training ground and a world class front line, so why should we employ a two bit manager? Conte is a serial winner, we haven't won anything of real note for decades, yet he still came here, why? It wasn't for the money it was because he saw what we did have and believed with the right backing he could win here too. He's not asking for billions he just wants a different profile of player to what Levy wants, and he wants full autonomy of who goes.

I've been a big defender of DL in the past because he always spoke about the infrastructure being the problem and when we had that in place things would change. Well here we are, and it's just more rinse and repeat I'm afraid. The only way we move forward now imo is if Levy steps/is moved aside. He can still be chairman and deal with all the commercial shit(he's excellent at it) but it won't matter who we bring in as head coach if they are constantly held back on the football side of things because the chairman thinks he knows better.

I know you know more than a lot of us and this isn’t a Q to you but it’s just bizarre if Levy is up to his old tricks AGAIN.

Im the same as you I’ve cut him a lot of slack during the stadium build etc, I think with Jose he knew he made a mistake and Jose wasn’t a good fit for us and slightly dated but he in a club interview said all football decisions would be decided by Paratici and then we hire Conte knowing he’s Bessie’s with Fabio so if Levy is now either not keeping promises or not giving Conte & FP full control then surely they’d both walk not just Conte.

It’s also annoying because I do actually think financially since the stadium has been up and running with no pandemic Levy has started to up the financial backing to managers but if it’s the type of players we are buying where he is still meddling then that sums up what most of us have known for years that we simply won’t be successful whilst he has any involvement in the football side.

There are just so so many examples of this under Levy it’s untrue.

As well as / aside from spending big money a hugely vital factor in a football team/club achieving success is fully backing a managers vision so the squad aligns with his playing style, without that it’s like putting a Ferrari engine in a smart car, it won’t fit or work in sync and so it won’t get you the results you need.

I do feel this then is crunch time, the majority of our fans now see through Levy, if Conte walks and/or Paratici and if Poch comes back it won’t even matter because the second that goes sour it’ll be pitchforks for levy.

Let’s hope someone moves him on from the football side asap otherwise we will lose our opportunity with having landed a truly world class manager finally.

 

[spark7586]

If this is all true and Levy is pushing off probably top 4 manager in the world then he really needs to look at the future and what will unfold. Poch, although he did a great job, is not the answer. He hasn’t won anything of note compared to Conte who is a serial winner. The players we have are not suited to a poch system. It’ll also mean bye bye Kane and we will fall quickly down the table. Son is looking past it as well now so Levy really needs to take a good look at himself and realise how good he has it at the mo with Conte.

 

[Harrier]

If it’s not about the budget that’s available, and more the profile of player, Conte will win this one IMHO.

I’m not surprised this is happening on the eve of the transfer window.

Deja vu anyone?!

 

[Sid Tottenham]

Trouble is Conte doesn't suffer fools and if Levy is playing his games there's only one winner. Unfortunately levy's not the only one to lose there's the players and of course ultimately the fans.
You can't bluff a player who holds all the cards, hopefully Levy treads carefully here.

 

[Albertbarich]

I'm worried about this. Of course nothing has happened yet so we shouldn't over react and have a tantrum but the timing is bothering me

They have just had a month off, if there was ever a time to sort this out you surely would do it then.

The fact that they haven't and now the media are saying he is considering it etc says a lot I think.

We should all be moving forward in the same direction and it very much feels like we aren't.

 

[RuskyM]

? It wasn't for the money it was because he saw what we did have and believed with the right backing he could win here too.

I mean, the money probably was a factor.

I think my issue is appointing “winners” isn’t a strategy. You can’t just hope that their winningness rubs off on us; that’s what United tried with LVG and Mourinho.

 

[Trix]

I mean, the money probably was a factor.

Mate elite managers get paid wherever they go, he isn't the type to just take a job for the salary. Being competitive for trophies is a must for AC.

 

[parj]

I mean, the money probably was a factor.

I think my issue is appointing “winners” isn’t a strategy. You can’t just hope that their winningness rubs off on us; that’s what United tried with LVG and Mourinho.

I'll be very surprised if Conte came for us. We were there at the right time, with the right salary and the "right budget" for him

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I mean, the money probably was a factor.

I think my issue is appointing “winners” isn’t a strategy. You can’t just hope that their winningness rubs off on us; that’s what United tried with LVG and Mourinho.

Mourinho fit into the appointing "winners" strategy - and it worked as well as most expected.

Conte is different - he coaches a style of football that is successful, and has been his entire career. he is much more of a "coach" than Mourinho is - and you can see the difference when he has time to drill the players in what he wants to see. Its not that he is a "winner" its that he knows how to coach players, and how to win consistently.

 

[newbie]

We could achieve something this season with a couple of good signings or we could easily end up 6 or 7th

We need to push on and get comfortable top 3 we have to many teams with money who will become a threat

2 good players would make a big lift.

Conte transfer records pretty good so far the investment would pay off

 

[IamSpurtacus]

You can’t just hope that their winningness rubs off on us

You can - it's what happened at United with Fergie, Arsenal with Wenger, Chelsea with Jose and with Pep at City

But they were all backed, given players and the tools to execute their vision, and transformed the mentality and position of their clubs

Conte offers us to the chance to do the same. I hope Levy doesn't blow it

 

[spurs9]

Those players were not top end talent and certainly not coveted by the best clubs when we bought them.

We beat Southampton to sign Vertonghen ffs lol.

You have made that up, it was Arsenal we beat to Vertonghen.

Also, Eriksen turned down Man City.

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[Timberwolf]

“Lucky”? Or has the penny finally dropped?

Hundreds of players are transferred in/out of clubs from Europe every window. Signing 2 players who hit the ground running doesn’t make you “lucky”. It makes you efficient.

The more efficiency we show in recruitment the less we’ll have to worry about in terms of matching city / Chelsea pound for pound.

Defo a big element of luck.

Juve were desperate for cash to bring in Vlahovic that window and we were able to cut a very good deal thanks to that and Paratici's connections. If they weren't desperate for money no way would we have got that deal done.

Was also the absolute nadir of Kulusevski's value as he was so misused at Juve. If he'd gone on loan or played under a better manager his value would've been up towards 70-80m in no time.

It was the right players from the right club at the right time for the right fee...doesn't get much luckier than that transfer-wise.

 

[rossdapep]

Udogie, Kulusevski, Romero, Sessegnon, Spence, Sarr, Gill, Bentancur, Bissouma, Skipp,

There's also the potential of the likes of Scarlett and Lankshear coming through.

That's a healthy nucleus of players under 25 with some very much for the future.

I don't think it's silly to give Conte 3 or 4 more older established players, and then focus on winning in the next two years with Conte. Then when it's time to change coach, I don't think it'd be too hard to shift them as;

1. We win something and their reputation stays high enough to sell for a good few.

2. They can be eased out over a couple of windows, even if we fail to win under Conte.

Having said that, we've signed plenty of good players at a young age and a good few, so FP will certainly be able to find more in this range.

So the whole idea of not wanting to back Conte cause you don't want to be left with players you can't get rid of seems really odd to me.