Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[Wheeler Dealer]

The only reason Levy won't sack him is because it would be embarrassing for Levy and further proof of his incompetence when it comes to the footballing side of things.

We will canter and drift along to May, finishing 7th, no cup glory and a demoralized squad of players having to endure Conte ball..

Come the summer, Conte will be gone along with Kane and Levy will be back to square one once again looking for a manager who will need to conduct a complete rebuild.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Why you hyper focused on the type of injury and not his performances? Is this the only leg you have to stand on?

No. You had the temerity to accuse me of rewriting history when you were just flat out lying to fit your own agenda. Tanganga has never been a “nailed on starter” for us and he never will be.

 

[Tucker]

Funny how you’re arguing semantics and not the important bits.

It was his thigh, not his knee injury, I got the two mixed up. The thigh injury is what halted his trajectory. He was playing extremely well, out of position at RB up until that time IIRC.

That’s not a “rubbish defender” to me. But you’re entitled to your opinion.

You’re talking about something two years ago. Tanganga had decent potential then. He no longer has that imo. He’s not played anywhere near enough football for someone his age and he’s injured far too much. It’s horribly bad luck for him the way things have turned out, but he won’t make it here.

I was pretty relaxed about him starting today, and I don’t think he was the main problem. But let’s not pretend he’s good enough for Spurs.

Our main issues today were down to the formation and our players being terrified of making mistakes. Conte has sucked the life out of this group, and I don’t see things working out under him.

 

[Metalhead]

Yea it’s not enjoyable very often is it I’d certainly not be against Poch back in summer as we won’t win anything playing like this anyway so if so I’d rather we played better football and had a more positive vibe with the fans and club.

How depressing. Back to the 90s vibe but with a stadium upgrade.

 

[Jamturk]

A few decisions today that went against us.

Tanganga and Porro selections. Also Sarr before Skippy was a big call.

Son needs to be dropped, you can't trade on past glories Tony.

 

[spursfan77]

He can’t be enjoying this either

 

[spursfan77]

Yea it’s not enjoyable very often is it I’d certainly not be against Poch back in summer as we won’t win anything playing like this anyway so if so I’d rather we played better football and had a more positive vibe with the fans and club.

I’m starting to feel the same. Need the feel good factor back somehow. If we go out v Milan I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened then.

 

[lis spur]

Much better tempo last Sunday ,with smiles aplenty without Conte sucking the life out of the place .There is no joy with him around ,he is only running the clock down.

 

[muppetman]

Leicester today were everything we aren't - aggressive in the tackle, slick passing, playing to a system they understand and a joy to watch.

 

[Tarricko]

I don't think Poch is the answer. I don't think any new manager is the answer.

But I'd happily have him back because I like his football and I like him. I just want to enjoy my team again every once in a while.

We all know there are fundamental problems at the very core of the club, but it's an absolute joke anyone could think Conte bears no responsibility at all for what is happening on the pitch. Laughable.

 

[TOLBINY]

To all those who want Conte out - remember what Woolwich fans were saying about Captain Black 18+ months ago. If you don't have 300M to spend every transfer window then it is going to take time to get rid of the deadwood and replace them with better players. We need a keeper, two central defenders and an attacking mid in the summer minimum to give us a decent starting 11. We had Richarlison, Danjuma and Moura on the bench today with Bissouma out injured, our options are improving slowly - just a shame Conte waits til 75th minute to make changes.

 

[dricha1]

The only reason Levy won't sack him is because it would be embarrassing for Levy and further proof of his incompetence when it comes to the footballing side of things.

He can’t sack him cos the squad profile is set for a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2. Sack Conte bring Poch in and you’ve pissed another £40m up the wall in Porro.

Levy is gaslighting the lot of us with we all want to win, it’s hard without proper FFP bullshit.
We know what’s required for. Conte winning team, ball playing CBS better wing backs, just go out and get them, instead of dragging out for a full month of the transfer window.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

You’re talking about something two years ago. Tanganga had decent potential then. He no longer has that imo. He’s not played anywhere near enough football for someone his age and he’s injured far too much. It’s horribly bad luck for him the way things have turned out, but he won’t make it here.

I was pretty relaxed about him starting today, and I don’t think he was the main problem. But let’s not pretend he’s good enough for Spurs.

Our main issues today were down to the formation and our players being terrified of making mistakes. Conte has sucked the life out of this group, and I don’t see things working out under him.

I was merely arguing the fact that he’s a rubbish defender, and that he was the best defender on the pitch today.

I agree with most of what you’ve said, but he hasn’t had a proper run to build momentum either so there will always be a what if for me.

It’s a matter of opinion at the end of the day.

 

[Spursberg]

A few decisions today that went against us.

Tanganga and Porro selections. Also Sarr before Skippy was a big call.

Son needs to be dropped, you can't trade on past glories Tony.

Said earlier that i thought Conte had balls and would use players that perform, but it seems to be a spurs curse. Everytime we have "world class" palyers they get a pass no matter how bad they play.
And this is the same with Conte. Watching the game today i really have lost faith in him, Why not change things up in the 55th minute, when you can clearly see nothing has changed at half time and couple of players are way of?

Also i am one of the first to shout at Emerson for how bad he has been, but he just came from his absolute best game in a spurs shirt, then you bench him? What signal is that? Conte looks way of tactically to me.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

I am not totally sold on a Poch reunian but I will say this.

Bentancur, Bissouma, Porro, Romero, Richarlison and Udogie are right up his street

I really really don’t want Poch back now. But I am starting to think that Conte’s time here is done, unfortunately. I don’t even think it’s entirely his fault, he’s had a really tough year and say what you want about him being backed but it’s fairly clear he wanted a defender for at least two windows and we didn’t get him one. That most certainly is the definition of not being backed. Our shocking defence is at the heart of a lot of our problems.

But he’s also not brought any fresh ideas or energy and really we look completely one dimensional and incredibly inconsistent. I don’t think anything changes over the next few months ether so the question is what now. I think we will see out the season, try and win a cup and part ways in the summer and it will probably be the best for everyone.

But if anyone thinks some major changes aren’t going to be needed when whoever else comes in then they are very much mistaken.

 

[rossdapep]

Yea it’s not enjoyable very often is it I’d certainly not be against Poch back in summer as we won’t win anything playing like this anyway so if so I’d rather we played better football and had a more positive vibe with the fans and club.

To be honest I am reaching a stage of acceptance, maybe I am searching for some comfort, maybe I am deluding myself as I have aired concerns with a Poch return.

But I do see some upside to it.

1. Poch wanted a rebuild, he knew some players were done. Some have left but at least 14 or so are still here. That actually puts him in a better position than a new face cause he may tell Levy that he wants Sanchez/Dier/Sess/etc gone.

A new coach may want a look at them and there's gonna be a transition period where some of these faces have to play.

2. There is a nucleus of Poch press type players emerging. Romero, Bentancur, Richy, Bissouma, Porro, Udogie are all players that can play on the front foot.

Poch didnt have any of these.

3. We are concerned Poch will want Ndombele but I honestly think he will ditch that idea once he sees Sarr, Bentancur and Bissouma in preseason and reliases they all have what Ndombele doesnt have and are closer to Demebele in substance.

4. Porro and Udogie need to play in the front foot and be pushing teams back. Poch can replicate the Walker and Rose period with them.

5. The biggest reason Poch failed at the end is because we lost the legs to press relentlessly and stay in the opppsition's half. Without Walker and Rose's energy on the flanks, Kane pressing from the top, Eriksen's commitment, Toby and Jans age and the muscle of Dembele and Wanyama in the middle we gradually lost it piece by piece and he didnt get anywhere near
close to being allowed to recover/boost it.

It may have even helped Ndombele and Lo Celso be more of a success.

But I do still have a lot of concerns. Football moves fast, so if Poch isn't coming with new ideas on top or hasnt learnt from mistakes or wants total control over transfers then it may go south.

 

[mil1lion]

If we've got a poor quality pool of players in defence, then why play a system that relies on a defensive system? Not only does he play it, he's rigidly stuck to it when it doesn't work.

Or why bring in managers that play defensive football and not bring the players who suit it
This is his system, proven at every other club he managed

 

[Gassin's finest]

You’re talking about something two years ago. Tanganga had decent potential then. He no longer has that imo. He’s not played anywhere near enough football for someone his age and he’s injured far too much. It’s horribly bad luck for him the way things have turned out, but he won’t make it here.

I was pretty relaxed about him starting today, and I don’t think he was the main problem. But let’s not pretend he’s good enough for Spurs.

Our main issues today were down to the formation and our players being terrified of making mistakes. Conte has sucked the life out of this group, and I don’t see things working out under him.

Jose did that. Conte's just doubled down on it.

Funny how football managers who win things at clubs that always win things, regardless of the manager, don't win things at club's that don't often win things.

 

[Albertbarich]

To be honest I am reaching a stage of acceptance, maybe I am searching for some comfort, maybe I am deluding myself as I have aired concerns with a Poch return.

But I do see some upside to it.

1. Poch wanted a rebuild, he knew some players were done. Some have left but at least 14 or so are still here. That actually puts him in a better position than a new face cause he may tell Levy that he wants Sanchez/Dier/Sess/etc gone.

A new coach may want a look at them and there's gonna be a transition period where some of these faces have to play.

2. There is a nucleus of Poch press type players emerging. Romero, Bentancur, Richy, Bissouma, Porro, Udogie are all players that can play on the front foot.

Poch didnt have any of these.

3. We are concerned Poch will want Ndombele but I honestly think he will ditch that idea once he sees Sarr, Bentancur and Bissouma in preseason and reliases they all have what Ndombele doesnt have and are closer to Demebele in substance.

4. Porro and Udogie need to play in the front foot and be pushing teams back. Poch can replicate the Walker and Rose period with them.

5. The biggest reason Poch failed at the end is because we lost the legs to press relentlessly and stay in the opppsition's half. Without Walker and Rose's energy on the flanks, Kane pressing from the top, Eriksen's commitment, Toby and Jans age and the muscle of Dembele and Wanyama in the middle we gradually lost it piece by piece and he didnt get anywhere near
close to being allowed to recover/boost it.

It may have even helped Ndombele and Lo Celso be more of a success.

But I do still have a lot of concerns. Football moves fast, so if Poch isn't coming with new ideas on top or hasnt learnt from mistakes or wants total control over transfers then it may go south.

I love Poch but no way could Kane and Son cope with his pressing game at their ages.

 

[ilikeost]

He can’t sack him cos the squad profile is set for a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2. Sack Conte bring Poch in and you’ve pissed another £40m up the wall in Porro.

Levy is gaslighting the lot of us with we all want to win, it’s hard without proper FFP bullshit.
We know what’s required for. Conte winning team, ball playing CBS better wing backs, just go out and get them, instead of dragging out for a full month of the transfer window.

People seem to forget that Poch played with a back 3 quite a lot.