Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[Jamturk]

I know everyone loves the idea of Poch coming back; but he honestly had one of the best spurs teams on paper and didn’t win anything.

kane
Son
Eriksen
Dembele
Rose
Trippier
Walker
Lloris
Toby
Jan
Peak - Dele
Wanyama before his injury!

this is when both Davies and Dier were both bench warmers who now start every game. I’m sorry but if Antonio inherited a squad like that he would have won a trophy. I’m not saying Antonio is the answer but Poch isn’t either.

FFS! this really gets on my nerves.

Nobody was saying these players were good before Poch came in.

This is why Levy is an idiot for letting him down the way he did.

 

[Nebby]

How the fuck did we manage to get to a CL final, finish second, consistently finish above Arsenal, get top 4 last season, have the best striker the PL has seen..... and yet find ourselves rudderless with no direction as a Club. No plan. A faltering identity. A shroud of disillusionment smothering the white part of NL.

Fine, get rid of Conte I guess.

But absolutely fuck all is going to change. Other than Enic will just never employ a manager that isn't a yes man again.

The club is run by and full of a load of absolute ball bags.

Perhaps they're not so useless after all? You can't deny them praise when things go well.

 

[strader]

Cycle needs to be broken or we are going backwards. Let’s see if Conte commits. Let’s stop giving those players who want him out what they want. They should be the ones who are gone not the manager. I really hope levy convinces conte to sign a new contract as it shows we are making strides to be different.

No contract....... definitely no. Conte brand of football is not suited to the EPL; The football in this league has evolved past what he tries to implement with us. To Break the cycle, we need a manager with an expansive dynamic flexible brand of football and supporting him to the rafters is breaking the cycle.

 

[olliec]

No contract....... definitely no. Conte brand of football is not suited to the EPL; The football in this league has evolved past what he tries to implement with us. To Break the cycle, we need a manager with an expansive dynamic flexible brand of football and supporting him to the rafters is breaking the cycle.

But last season we went from 9th to 4th playing Conte style, so I don’t believe this is true when it comes to his style of football.

 

[bubble07]

If it is Mason will he show loyalty to the ones that have failed previous managers?

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I know everyone loves the idea of Poch coming back; but he honestly had one of the best spurs teams on paper and didn’t win anything.

kane
Son
Eriksen
Dembele
Rose
Trippier
Walker
Lloris
Toby
Jan
Peak - Dele
Wanyama before his injury!

this is when both Davies and Dier were both bench warmers who now start every game. I’m sorry but if Antonio inherited a squad like that he would have won a trophy. I’m not saying Antonio is the answer but Poch isn’t either.

conte had to manage one of the most shocking defences I’ve seen at Tottenham since the 90s.

Ah this flawed argument again.

Rose, Walker, Eriksen, Dembele, Vertonghen and even Lloris weren’t rated and fans wanted most of them gone when Poch took over.

He developed every single one of them (along with Kane) and made them top players and he then brought in the likes of Son, Dele, Wanyama and Toby etc and developed them too.

He MADE that team and made it more than the sum of its parts too.

If Conte had been here, he’d have axed most of the squad for not being good enough and would have wanted to spend £300m instead.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I know everyone loves the idea of Poch coming back; but he honestly had one of the best spurs teams on paper and didn’t win anything.

kane
Son
Eriksen
Dembele
Rose
Trippier
Walker
Lloris
Toby
Jan
Peak - Dele
Wanyama before his injury!

this is when both Davies and Dier were both bench warmers who now start every game. I’m sorry but if Antonio inherited a squad like that he would have won a trophy. I’m not saying Antonio is the answer but Poch isn’t either.

conte had to manage one of the most shocking defences I’ve seen at Tottenham since the 90s.

The players weren’t at the level they became until Poch got hold of them though. It’s been said many times on here. He elevated their level and made them team play more than the sum of their parts.

Yea he failed to win anything but I would say that was more of indictment of weak overall squad despite a good first 11.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

The players weren’t at the level they became until Poch got hold of them though. It’s been said many times on here. He elevated their level and made them team play more than the sum of their parts.

Yea he failed to win anything but I would say that was more of indictment of having a good first 11 but weak squad.

Bingo.

If he had that same core now but also had players of the calibre of Romero, Bentancur, Bissouma, Deki, Skipp etc in the squad too, we’d 100% have won something.

 

[bubble07]

He brought back late period Dele !

He also dropped Bale for the final which was a ballsy move

 

[strader]

But last season we went from 9th to 4th playing Conte style, so I don’t believe this is true when it comes to his style of football.

True.... But this league is an unforgiving league; you get found out and his style didn't work this season. Some can argue last season was about bedding in confidence and structure in the team and this season with a preseason preparation we went full contegate.

Did I do well to get myself out of the small hole or dug it deeper

 

[mattspur1]

If it is true and Conte is on his way, I am delighted.

However, if they are waiting until the summer to appoint a perm Manager surely that means it's not Poch as he is available now.

Appointing Mason as a caretaker makes no sense to me.

 

[Japhet]

I agree with the football being poor and not adapting, but I don't blame him for not committing and he wasn't given a good chunk of cash he was given players he never wanted. There is a big difference.

Do any managers actually get all of the players they want (apart from Guardiola)? Seems to me that most accept there will be compromise and are prepared to integrate players they're given. Can't remember any being quite as petulant about it as Conte, and to be honest, I'm quite glad he didn't get Bastoni or Zaniolo right now. He did get Perisic which hasn't turned out very well.

 

[CheeseGromit]

I still think that all the noise out there now about Conte is just all the things that have been there since he started.

I an sure he is as angry as we are and is very emotional Not necessarily a bad thing

He said the team would need several transfer windows for a rebuild. He has consistently said the about the contract being 18 months then a rethink

For me the biggest problem has been since Poch we have hired three managers who have a more conservative view on the game yet the club has not adadpted the recruitment policy to reflect their requirements The club have tried to evolve rather than revolutionise. If you want to play in a certain way that buy players that are the backbone of the side first That may lead to an initial season disappointed but it sets out a path

Give the Conte the tools and he stay Its up to the fans to decide if thats the style what they want

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Ah this flawed argument again.

Rose, Walker, Eriksen, Dembele, Vertonghen and even Lloris weren’t rated and fans wanted most of them gone when Poch took over.

He developed every single one of them (along with Kane) and made them top players and he then brought in the likes of Son, Dele, Wanyama and Toby etc and developed them too.

He MADE that team and made it more than the sum of its parts too.

If Conte had been here, he’d have axed most of the squad for not being good enough and would have wanted to spend £300m instead.

I still remember how our fans raged when Rose signed a new 5-year contract

 

[C1w8]

But last season we went from 9th to 4th playing Conte style, so I don’t believe this is true when it comes to his style of football.

It was a 3 point gap from 9th to 4th with 28 games to play....

We had a great run in but lets not make it out like hes clawed back something insurmountable there.

 

[Johnny J]

Do any managers actually get all of the players they want (apart from Guardiola)? Seems to me that most accept there will be compromise and are prepared to integrate players they're given. Can't remember any being quite as petulant about it as Conte, and to be honest, I'm quite glad he didn't get Bastoni or Zaniolo right now. He did get Perisic which hasn't turned out very well.

They don't, but I think it's fairly clear that the centre back situation has been a huge problem. We've seen at Liverpool how a top CB can change the team. Conte hasn't doen a good job but this defence is awful. And we only got Porro in Jan, having given Conte a kid he didn't want at RWB last summer.

 

[ero1x]

Yawn… Has he gone yet?

 

[cliff jones]

Ah this flawed argument again.

Rose, Walker, Eriksen, Dembele, Vertonghen and even Lloris weren’t rated and fans wanted most of them gone when Poch took over.

He developed every single one of them (along with Kane) and made them top players and he then brought in the likes of Son, Dele, Wanyama and Toby etc and developed them too.

He MADE that team and made it more than the sum of its parts too.

If Conte had been here, he’d have axed most of the squad for not being good enough and would have wanted to spend £300m instead.

Fans wanted most of them gone? I don’t recognise that at all. Some if not many myself included wanted to see them develop under a proper coach

it’s not a million miles away from where we are now in that it’s hard to tell if players have the licence to be brave or are simply told to weave the same patterns by a micro managing coach whose approach has now been superseded by coaches who play a third midfielder and leave three up top

 

[BorjeSpurs]

It was a 3 point gap from 9th to 4th with 28 games to play....

We had a great run in but lets not make it out like hes clawed back something insurmountable there.

and the 10 games that had already been played included City, Chelsea, Arsenal, United and West Ham (A).

 

[C1w8]

Fans wanted most of them gone? I don’t recognise that at all. Some if not many myself included wanted to see them develop under a proper coach

Yeah defo a bit of hyperbole there (though agree with the sentiment of the post!).

From my memory Walker and Rose were probably the only two that people doubted in moments - but i think that tends to be the case with RB/LB more than most.

The rest listed i wouldnt say had much if any swell of criticism aimed in their direction.