WiganSpur
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They'll probably end up winning without a shot on target.
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Of course he looks ahead of him from that angle. Just as the Conventry player looks offside from the other angle.
luRRka
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The ball has already travelled about 2 meters in that pic hasn't it?
RuskyM
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I get how perspective works - it's more I'm still genuinely not seeing it. Again: I think I might have lost my mind.
Yeah it wasn't the best example - tried to find a better one. More trying to show that AWB's ahead imo. I'm this close to printing out frame by frames and putting them on the wall with bits of string.
What’s the trial? I get it, you don’t want too big a change in one hit, but teams would adapt pretty quickly. It’d be interesting to see how teams set up differently.Maybe you'll get your wish after the trials. But I think it will change the game too much. Under the "daylight" rule this is onside and if this is onside then defending in football has to completely change.
Trent Crimm
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Getting into finals ? We are turning our nose up at this ?
I tried drawing my own lines using the vanishing point method. Obviously not as accurate as the software they use. When the ref draws the lines it produces a 1 pixel line somewhat like the image I made. The software then makes the lines wider (I believe to represent 10 centimeters) and if they touch it turns green. That's the built in margin of error the PL uses. So it's really really close to the margin of error but the system is saying he's more than 10 cm offside.
Yiddo100
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Is this even that different really overall? You’ll still have VAR zooming in to see if there’s a millimetre gap between the 2 players and lines still being drawn.
It's a rule that needs to change. Can't be off with your wee toe. Joke. Needs to be daylight between attacker and defender.
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RuskyM
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I genuinely love that you've done this for me.
Oh I've been doing stuff like that since the before VAR era. I think they way they make the lines bigger causes problems. They should have always included the distance offside in the image too. If it said something like "Offside by 12.3 cm" and they included that on every single VAR image then you'd probably have fewer issues "selling" the call. But I'm just some random dude from America.
Gbspurs
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Why don't they just build in a bigger margin of error? Make it more favourable to the forward.
They could. 10cm is a pretty solid margin though. I just think they suck at displaying it as a margin of error. Anything close but over 10cm looks like the lines are on top of each other.
DenverSpur
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I agree. That is the most subjective aspect of the decision. I remember reading a long while ago about something about the frame speed(?) made it very difficult to decide the EXACT moment the ball leaves the foot.
Fair one. So let’s shake it up. Theoretically if there was no offsides. What would happen? Fair and equal for both teams. Would the ball just be lumped from one end to another? What do you reckon?
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imagine if he woke up this morning, bit distracted thinking about the game and just as he pulls his socks on in the locker room he thinks, "shit, didn't trim my toenails... ah well, I'll do it after"
