mark87
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Atleast he hit the target....
Fixtures 1st/2nd Jan
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Atleast he hit the target....
bomberH
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Out of all the quotes there, the most unbelievable one by a trillion miles is...
Un-fucking-believable.
Un-fucking-believable.
ClintEastwould
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Bet theyre all sending in thier weekly letters to abramovixh asking him to splash the cash
Gbspurs
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Unfortunately, that probably exactly what he will do!
Looking back at the Marin yellow. Still don't get how Mason goes yellow. Here in the US we have an acronym for determining serious foul play (SIAPOA). This tackle meet 5 of the 6 criteria (IMO) for SIAPOA. Usually two you go red and three for sure. Another example of the fact you can do almost anything in the first 5 minutes.
Marty
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It was a definite red and clearly an awful decision, but two questons:
1. What does SIAPOA actually stand for? I can't work it out...
2. What are the six criteria you mention?
Adding a third, seeing as you do ref a fair bit, why do you think refs are so scared of making tough decisions in the first 10 minutes of games?
faymantaray
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Ridiculous inconsistency from refs on this front, Harry says Marin is just being super keen because he's gotten a rare start which is fair enough, but how is that different from Adebayor being super keen against his antagonising former club? I'm not arguing that Ade didn't deserve red but we would have been satisfied with a yellow as it wouldn't have killed the contest..
Here it is for those who haven't seen it.. I'm not bothered it's not a red, we just need some consistency.
The US Soccer Federation is really good (read: too good) at coming up with acronyms for refs.
S - Speed of challenge
I - Intent
A - Angle (tackle from front or behind more likely to cause injury then one from the side)
P - Position of studs/foot (tacklers foot into ankle/shin more likely to be red)
O - Opportunity to play the ball
A - Atmosphere of the match
IMO it meets everyone but intent. The speed of the challenge was high enough for red, the angle of the challenge was from the front, the position of the studs was into the opponents shin, the opportunity to play the ball was gone, and the atmosphere of the match was a highly heated London Derby.
Usually meeting two of these criteria could be a red and three almost certainly is. IMO it meets five. It just has to be a red.
As for the first 10 minutes thing I think there is the habit of saying the ref "ruins the match" when he sends a player off early.
hughy
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Can that really be taken in to account? I mean - what does that actually have to do with a challenge?!
A tackle in a Manchester Derby might require a red to keep the lid on things but you could get away with a yellow in a Spurs/Wigan game. Is it right? Maybe not. But not going red in the derby could lead to all hell breaking loose and going red in the Spurs/Wigan game could lead to problems because it probably could have been yellow in what was a calm game. It really is what makes officiating so difficult.
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