Gareth Bale

[Luka Van der Bale]

I’ve bolded all the bits I strongly disagree with. If you think he’s been effective for Madrid in the last couple of seasons then I can only come to the conclusion you haven’t watched many of the games live. The fact he’s been fully fit for months but can’t get into the team over some kids who replaced him suggests that Zidane has had enough too. It’s only been the last few weeks he’s returned to some kind of form.

i’d be amazed if this season was his best statistically like you say. Until the last few weeks he’s been so poor to average. If a player does fuck all for 89 minutes and scores a tap in every other game, then the stats may look decent but he’s not contributing like he should be in his position and he’s not playing like an £85m player.

I think you’re getting confused between being successful trophy wise, which he has been massively, and being successful playing/form wise, which he hasn’t at all. The last couple of years he’s been like Wes Brown/Jonny Evans at Utd - bang average players playing their part in a massively successful team. They’ll have shitloads of trophies to show off when they’re older but won’t be particularly fondly remembered by their fans.

It pains me to say all this because I love him but I agree he can flourish once he leaves. You can see when he plays for Wales he has a smile on his face and plays much better and more freely. It’s Madrid’s fault entirely but it’s true. He needs to show the world again that he’s one of the best players.

He has 16 goals in 20 league starts this season. Their third top scorer after Bale and Ronaldo has 7 league goals. He has absolutely been effective for them - 70 goals in 126 matches when not always a starter is fantastic. On the field there’s absolutely no argument to be made against signing Bale.

 

[klacey]

Signing of the summer written all over it. I would love to see Bale wearing our badge once again.

 

[gazzeh]

Ask yourself this. If we had him already...would you be open to selling him? You'll find your answer of whether or not hes worth buying there.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

So coming to us he would or wouldn't be chasing glory?

Coming to Spurs for the glory, over united...?

I'm not sure i follow...

Going to United, Bale would be another Sanchez. Unless he was incredible and scored 25+ goals, their fans would be annoyed at how short-term their club is thinking replacing Martial and Rashford with Bale and Sanchez. They’re already turning against Jose in their droves.

At Spurs he’d be the returning hero, and he’d be greeted with a reception akin to when we signing Ossie and Ricky or Klinsmann. He’d immediately be hero worshipped. He’s won all there is to win in his career - I can see a lot of reasons why, if he were to leave Real, going to a place where he’s loved would be more tempting than filling his pockets at United.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

On the field there’s absolutely no argument to be made against signing Bale.

Thats not exactly true. Bale is a fantastic player - but he plays more of a wide-forward role, rather than an inverted AM role that Poch likes. If we sign Bale, I think it would take a change in tactics from Poch to make it work.

Certainly we could more towards a 433 but if Poch is not comfortable with that approach - then I can see why we would not want Bale - for footballing reasons.

Ultimately, I think this is Poch's call.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

Thats not exactly true. Bale is a fantastic player - but he plays more of a wide-forward role, rather than an inverted AM role that Poch likes. If we sign Bale, I think it would take a change in tactics from Poch to make it work.

Certainly we could more towards a 433 but if Poch is not comfortable with that approach - then I can see why we would not want Bale - for footballing reasons.

Ultimately, I think this is Poch's call.

Son has played that role pretty much all season. I’d argue Son hugs the touchline far more than Bale does.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Going to United, Bale would be another Sanchez. Unless he was incredible and scored 25+ goals, their fans would be annoyed at how short-term their club is thinking replacing Martial and Rashford with Bale and Sanchez. They’re already turning against Jose in their droves.

At Spurs he’d be the returning hero, and he’d be greeted with a reception akin to when we signing Ossie and Ricky or Klinsmann. He’d immediately be hero worshipped. He’s won all there is to win in his career - I can see a lot of reasons why, if he were to leave Real, going to a place where he’s loved would be more tempting than filling his pockets at United.

Dont forget bale is at his best when the team needs him when hes the main man, he just single handely carried my nation to a semi finals of a european trophy!

He loves being loved its why he struggled at madrid hes nothing compared to ronaldo or hes not allowed out of ronaldos shadow he gets set free again in this league hes going to be a force.

 

[felmani26]

Dont forget bale is at his best when the team needs him when hes the main man, he just single handely carried my nation to a semi finals of a european trophy!

He loves being loved its why he struggled at madrid hes nothing compared to ronaldo or hes not allowed out of ronaldos shadow he gets set free again in this league hes going to be a force.

Well he won't be the face of Spurs either so long as Kane is here either - not saying there's not room to accommodate both obviously but times (and the club) have changed since 2013.

 

[olliec]

Well he won't be the face of Spurs either so long as Kane is here either - not saying there's not room to accommodate both obviously but times (and the club) have changed since 2013.

I think both Kane and Bale would be the face of our club if he joined.

 

[midoNdefoe]

Going to United, Bale would be another Sanchez. Unless he was incredible and scored 25+ goals, their fans would be annoyed at how short-term their club is thinking replacing Martial and Rashford with Bale and Sanchez. They’re already turning against Jose in their droves.

At Spurs he’d be the returning hero, and he’d be greeted with a reception akin to when we signing Ossie and Ricky or Klinsmann. He’d immediately be hero worshipped. He’s won all there is to win in his career - I can see a lot of reasons why, if he were to leave Real, going to a place where he’s loved would be more tempting than filling his pockets at United.

I was more questioning the contradicting points in the post i quoted.

I pretty much agree with everything you've said, apart from the part about united turning on Jose.
I think most at united are happy to be back at the top table - recognising noone could get near city this year and they were (arguably - but the league doesn't lie) the best of the rest.

 

[NickHSpurs]

ITK: We're trying
Some Fans: He would be amazing
Some Fans: He's always injured now
Some Fans: We can't afford him

Rinse and repeat until deadline day/he moves.

 

[jurgen]

We can't get a ready made player of his level in any other circumstance, but seemingly his nostalgia for us opens the door. Now Levy and Lewis need to walk through that door as fast as possible.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Further reasons for him to come home would be his business interests

He’s currently opening a wealth of restaurants and golf resorts and sports bar’s around wales,

There was a rumour not so long back that was there not on here he had looked at houses in the London area?

Primesure LTD (the property) is his company along with Elevens Group LTD (which is the sports bars)

Would not be surprised if his next business interest is aimed at the capital

He’s been very well managed by his agency and agents over the last few years credit where it’s due Johnathan Barnett has been brilliant with him except for making him leave us.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Thats not exactly true. Bale is a fantastic player - but he plays more of a wide-forward role, rather than an inverted AM role that Poch likes. If we sign Bale, I think it would take a change in tactics from Poch to make it work.

Certainly we could more towards a 433 but if Poch is not comfortable with that approach - then I can see why we would not want Bale - for footballing reasons.

Ultimately, I think this is Poch's call.

I think that's probably what we need to make progress, anyway. We have very good individuals, with a hell of a work ethic, and are hard to break down. What we need to see now (and I've said this at the start of the last three seasons) is some evidence that Poch can go beyond that, and start making our team perfom as more than just the sum of its parts. The attacking part of our game simply doesn't evidence the kind of organisation that Klopp's 'Pool, for instance, display. We need more tactical thinking added to Poch's strategic game, and we need to be working on this in training. Bale's experience of playing the Spanish way might help.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I think that's probably what we need to make progress, anyway.

I would kind of like to see us move to a 433, but I don't think it is necessary to "make progress".

We have proven we can win with Poch's tactics - we can beat any team in the world. We simply lack consistency.

Where I think Poch can evolve is recognizing that we must play differently against different teams. I think Poch has good long-term strategic vision. I think he could improve short-term tactical thinking on a match-by-match basis.

 

[dave5150]

He’s been very well managed by his agency and agents over the last few years credit where it’s due Johnathan Barnett has been brilliant with him except for making him leave us.

From what I heard previously (from someone at the FA top table at the time), Barnett actually helped us get a much better deal than we were expecting and Bale wanted to go anyway, nothing to do with being pushed by his agent. Madrid was an offer he couldn't refuse (and who can blame him?)

 

[robertgoulet]

From what I heard previously (from someone at the FA top table at the time), Barnett actually helped us get a much better deal than we were expecting and Bale wanted to go anyway, nothing to do with being pushed by his agent. Madrid was an offer he couldn't refuse (and who can blame him?)

Herc did mention that Bale's team did great by us, were really top class.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

If you have any doubts, ask yourself where you would rather see Gareth Bale lining up next season: at Old Trafford, or the new White Hart Lane?

Having said that, I have no doubts that if we did actually pull it off, only the most tedious contrarians amongst us would be dissenting.

 

[bomberH]

He has 16 goals in 20 league starts this season. Their third top scorer after Bale and Ronaldo has 7 league goals. He has absolutely been effective for them - 70 goals in 126 matches when not always a starter is fantastic. On the field there’s absolutely no argument to be made against signing Bale.

Firstly, let me make it clear that I would absolutely love Bale to return.

I knew those stats when I posted what I did and I stand by my posts. I’ve watched almost all of the matches where Bale has played, he’s the main reason I watch Madrid. Much like when Beckham played for them - with overseas teams I only have interest in certain players rather than the team itself. I repeat, if anyone thinks Bale has been effective for Madrid in the last 2 years then they can’t be watching the matches properly.

There’s a reason the fans haven’t taken to him. I know they’re notoriously twattish but the one thing they do have in common with other fans is they appreciate effort if nothing else, hence why they loved Gravesen. He’s produced lacklustre performance after performance over the last 2 years with only the odd flashes of brilliance and he’s finally been dropped (bar the last 2/3 weeks). He hasn’t excelled in any area and for a supposed world class player looking to win the Ballon d’or, he simply hasn’t been anywhere near as good enough. I blame Madrid for constantly playing him out of position, I blame Ronaldo for being Ronaldo and I blame Bale for getting too comfortable and not challenging himself. No more of those runs that made him unplayable, too often he stops and passes sideways like Walker used to do for us.

His stats are decent but he’s playing in a team that creates 7.9 billion chances a game. He has not been anywhere near as effective as he should be. And of course, the injuries certainly aren’t helping and could well be the cause of the bad form.

I love Bale. I want him back and I want him to show everyone how good he still is. I’m just explaining why I think Spurs are understandably being cautious, which the itk is suggesting.

 

[chinaman]

So he's going to come to us for less money, less trophies, worse weather and harder work? Smoke him a kipper, what a guy.

I don't think hard work will daunt him. I read some years ago he was a fitness freak and was used to run something like half-marathon. So I can't see him having problem doing the Poch regime. Also with a whole team fitter than our opponents as we've been in the last 4 seasons, a lot of pressure will be taken off him as the team shares the hard work of running our opponents to the ground.