Gary Neville reveals conversation with Harry Kane about changing his game

[mawspurs]

ITV pundit Gary Neville worked with Harry Kane when he was a member of the England coaching set-up under Roy Hodgson and he remains in contact with the Tottenham striker to this day.

Source: Daily Star

 

[Gassin's finest]

He put him on corners ffs!

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

One thing he need to change is to get some shots on target in a final

Running his ass off for in a once in a life time game that matters would be a good start

 

[Neon_Knight_]

One thing he need to change is to get some shots on target in a final

Running his ass off for in a once in a life time game that matters would be a good start

I thought he was one of the better players last night. It tends to be difficult for a CF to make a big impact on a game when their team is pinned back in their own half.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Not the most insightful article...

 

[JCRD]

One thing he need to change is to get some shots on target in a final

Running his ass off for in a once in a life time game that matters would be a good start

I understand where you are coming from but what would you expect him to do when the tactics are clearly him dropping deep and having runners around him. The tactics are and were not set up for him to be in the box to get on the end of passes and crosses He was the creative fulcrum. And what do we expect from him when the team is set up to defend and hoof

 

[Japhet]

I thought he was one of the better players last night. It tends to be difficult for a CF to make a big impact on a game when their team is pinned back in their own half.

I thought he did OK but I also thought Sterling and Mount were poor. They were obviously scared of Sterling running at them but he didn't really cause many problems and it says a lot that Luke Shaw has been hugely more productive than him for the whole tournament. For my money, grealish would have scared them a lot more, especially since he's actually aware of what's going on around him. I don't really know where the media 'love in' for Sterling comes from tbh, and Mount was fairly ananymous in the first half and disappeared altogether in the second. Difficult for Kane to do much under those circumstances.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

I thought he did OK but I also thought Sterling and Mount were poor. They were obviously scared of Sterling running at them but he didn't really cause many problems and it says a lot that Luke Shaw has been hugely more productive than him for the whole tournament. For my money, grealish would have scared them a lot more, especially since he's actually aware of what's going on around him. I don't really know where the media 'love in' for Sterling comes from tbh, and Mount was fairly ananymous in the first half and disappeared altogether in the second. Difficult for Kane to do much under those circumstances.

Southgate got 90% of his selections and subs spot on over the course of the tournament, but last night his subs were too little too late.

Sterling and Mount deserved to start.
Mount should have been the first player subbed off. Once Henderson was on - playing more advanced than Mount - it was difficult to fathom how Mason wasn't quickly replaced. Grealish was the obvious player to replace him.
I can understand why Sterling was left on, especially after his late impact against Denmark.
I could also understand why Saka was brought on, but after 15 minutes of mistakes he should have been withdrawn - Southgate was happy to take Grealish off after 15 minutes for tactical reasons, so why not Saka for performance reasons?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I thought he was one of the better players last night. It tends to be difficult for a CF to make a big impact on a game when their team is pinned back in their own half.

The problem is, though they were pinned back in their own half, it was purely because Southgate went full Mourinho, shat himself when we took the lead & went into full defence mode.

We just dropped deeper and deeper with every change that was made & the team suffered as a result.

Italy simply couldn't cope with us when we played to the strengths of our quality attacking players. Tripper should never have been taken off, Grealish should've come on for Rice after 60 minutes, Foden should've been on for Mount & we should've gone for the jugular.

We (Southgate) have unbelievable attacking talent in that squad but failed to take advantage of it.

It seemed to me that, as much as Italy played better in the 2nd half, it was because we let them. Even the commentary team on the BBC kept saying about how we'd stopped doing what was clearly working.

It's the same old story that us Spurs/England supporters have to get used to. A chance of glory, a chance of making history, but bottling it when it matters most.

 

[TorontoYid]

I thought he did OK but I also thought Sterling and Mount were poor.

Probably because Stirling seemed to fall over at every opportunity looking for free kicks and penalties...

 

[carmeldevil]

The problem is, though they were pinned back in their own half, it was purely because Southgate went full Mourinho, shat himself when we took the lead & went into full defence mode.

We just dropped deeper and deeper with every change that was made & the team suffered as a result.

Italy simply couldn't cope with us when we played to the strengths of our quality attacking players. Tripper should never have been taken off, Grealish should've come on for Rice after 60 minutes, Foden should've been on for Mount & we should've gone for the jugular.

We (Southgate) have unbelievable attacking talent in that squad but failed to take advantage of it.

It seemed to me that, as much as Italy played better in the 2nd half, it was because we let them. Even the commentary team on the BBC kept saying about how we'd stopped doing what was clearly working.

It's the same old story that us Spurs/England supporters have to get used to. A chance of glory, a chance of making history, but bottling it when it matters most.

Good analysis but for one point - Foden wasn't available due to an injury.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Good analysis but for one point - Foden wasn't available due to an injury.

Well that's shat on my opinion. Cheers.

Can I claim a moral victory, based solely upon my belief that an injured Foden would still be more effective than Jordan fucking Henderson?

 

[Neon_Knight_]

The problem is, though they were pinned back in their own half, it was purely because Southgate went full Mourinho, shat himself when we took the lead & went into full defence mode.

We just dropped deeper and deeper with every change that was made & the team suffered as a result.

Italy simply couldn't cope with us when we played to the strengths of our quality attacking players. Tripper should never have been taken off, Grealish should've come on for Rice after 60 minutes, Foden should've been on for Mount & we should've gone for the jugular.

We (Southgate) have unbelievable attacking talent in that squad but failed to take advantage of it.

It seemed to me that, as much as Italy played better in the 2nd half, it was because we let them. Even the commentary team on the BBC kept saying about how we'd stopped doing what was clearly working.

It's the same old story that us Spurs/England supporters have to get used to. A chance of glory, a chance of making history, but bottling it when it matters most.

I don't think any of Southgate, Mourinho, Capello or Sven (think back to England doing the same against every decent opponent in 2004-2006) encouraged the team to sit back like that. It's simply what happens when you come up against a strong opponent with a superior midfield on a big occasion and the players get tense. The midfield becomes incapable of retaining possession or playing progressive football.
Any Spurs or England team during my lifetime that wasn't extremely vulnerable to doing this in the big games had at least one world-class (or soon to be world-class) CM, such as Modric, Carrick, Dembele, Scholes & Gazza, alongside other good CMs who complimented them, such as Ince, Platt, Butt, an ageing Davids, prime Sandro, Wanyama etc. Any of those players in their day would upgrade on the current Spurs and England starting lineups. We currently have some good CMs, but none who I consider to be anywhere close to world-class.
Sven and Capello probably deserve blame for not getting the balance right in CM with their selections / systems (i.e. 4-4-2 with Gerrard & Lampard). I thought we actually played well against Argentina and Brazil in 2002, under Sven, when we had Scholes and Butt in CM. For the agonising performances against France in 2004 and Portugal in 2004 & 2006, we had Lampard and Gerard in CM - both good players but not the right balance, as was obvious to everyone but the manager at the time. Players like Scholes, Butt (2004), Carrick and Hargreaves (when fit) could have been better utilised during Sven, McClaren and Fabio's reigns.

Foden shouldn't have been on for anyone because he was injured (and therefore wasn't even on the bench).
Grealish should have been on for Mount - 60th minute if not earlier.
Rice actually did fairly well and on multiple occasions was effective in carrying the ball forwards to instigate attacks and/or relieve the pressure on our defence. Taking him off for Grealish would have left our defence even more exposed (we would have been playing 5-1-3-1, whereas 5-2-3 followed by 4-2-3-1 was a far more logical choice by Southgate).
Saka should have been replaced by Sancho/Rashford after 15 minutes of being the worst player on the pitch.
However, whatever selections or subs Southgate had gone with, it would not have changed the fact that Italy had a superior CM to ours.

 

[teedee]

Probably because Stirling seemed to fall over at every opportunity looking for free kicks and penalties...

I remember some years back a TV pundit (can't remember who) was analysing Sterling and pointed out how good he was at staying on his feet because of his low centre of gravity, his balance and his general toughness at resisting bigger, heavier players. Now Sterling just throws himself to the ground at the slightest opportunity. It's a pity because he has real talent.

 

[yid-down-under]

Nice to see this thread stayed on topic