General/Non-Spurs Transfers

['O Zio]

Money is king

That's the thing though, nobody is really benefiting from this situation apart from him and his clients. It should be something the FA at least regulates. For example, it should be against the rules to be a registered/licensed agent while simultaneously being employed by a club. At the moment, he's basically buying players for Wolves, a lot of whom are his clients (completely coincidentally of course ) so he's in effect negotiating with himself because he works for both the club and the player. It's a complete and irrefutable conflict of interests because the more he (i.e. Wolves) agree to pay the player, the more money he (as the player's agent) makes. Like I say, he's pretty much just writing himself cheques from Wolves. It's just bizarre that that's allowed to happen.

 

[Lilbaz]

Why are you wishing the worst for one of our former youth players?

He means it's likely swansea get relegated.

 

[Lilbaz]

Money is king

Monkey is king!

 

[Lilbaz]

That's the thing though, nobody is really benefiting from this situation apart from him and his clients. It should be something the FA at least regulates. For example, it should be against the rules to be a registered/licensed agent while simultaneously being employed by a club. At the moment, he's basically buying players for Wolves, a lot of whom are his clients (completely coincidentally of course ) so he's in effect negotiating with himself because he works for both the club and the player. It's a complete and irrefutable conflict of interests because the more he (i.e. Wolves) agree to pay the player, the more money he (as the player's agent) makes. Like I say, he's pretty much just writing himself cheques from Wolves. It's just bizarre that that's allowed to happen.

It is dodgy as fuck i agree. But all agents are paid by the clubs.

That needs to change. The deals should be between the clubs. When dealing with the player the agent fee should come from the player after the deal has been made. The players might understand then how much they are being fucked over. If pogba saw that he could have had £40m instead of his agent i think he'dbe a bit pissed.

 

['O Zio]

It is dodgy as fuck i agree. But all agents are paid by the clubs.

That needs to change. The deals should be between the clubs. When dealing with the player the agent fee should come from the player after the deal has been made. The players might understand then how much they are being fucked over. If pogba saw that he could have had £40m instead of his agent i think he'dbe a bit pissed.

I know the agents are always paid a fee by the clubs but that's not what this is. Mendes is actually directly employed by the club in a Director of Football-type role of sorts I.e. He is the one deciding who the club signs (what a surprise, it's a lot of players he coincidentally represents in his capacity as an agent) and the one negotiating the players contracts. When signing his own players, obviously it's in his interest to give them as high a wage as possible because he gets a cut of that, and he effectively gives himself an agent fee because he is both the DoF for the club AND the players agent. It's just so unbelievably corrupt.

 

[Hakkz]

Why are you wishing the worst for one of our former youth players?

1. The reality. Swansea have been turd.
2. I'm not wishing anything.
3. Yeah, being relegated from the prem is much worse than say... career ending injuries.

 

[spursfan77]

How on earth the whole Mendes/Wolves situation isn't illegal is beyond me. The guy basically writes himself and his clients cheques in the club's name. In any other industry that would be completely unthinkable but nobody seems to be batting an eyelid about it in football. I'm still amazed none of the big papers have really run a piece on it. You get little mentions of it here and there but surely this should be a big story? I don't get it.

Scared to upset Mendes or it's all been set up so it's sketchy but not illegal. It is different but equally boarderline Was allerdyce trying to get all his players at West Ham signed up to his agent for example?

 

[thinktank]

1. The reality. Swansea have been turd.
2. I'm not wishing anything.
3. Yeah, being relegated from the prem is much worse than say... career ending injuries.

My bad, misread your intention.

Thought you meant they'd flog 'im for flopping.

They could still well stay up. Lively, spirited manager and half a season left to play.

Anyone from #10 - #20 could still go down.

 

[Lilbaz]

I know the agents are always paid a fee by the clubs but that's not what this is. Mendes is actually directly employed by the club in a Director of Football-type role of sorts I.e. He is the one deciding who the club signs (what a surprise, it's a lot of players he coincidentally represents in his capacity as an agent) and the one negotiating the players contracts. When signing his own players, obviously it's in his interest to give them as high a wage as possible because he gets a cut of that, and he effectively gives himself an agent fee because he is both the DoF for the club AND the players agent. It's just so unbelievably corrupt.

Basically did the same at monaco didn't he?

 

[raiden]

Basically did the same at monaco didn't he?

And Valencia

 

[yankspurs]

I know the agents are always paid a fee by the clubs but that's not what this is. Mendes is actually directly employed by the club in a Director of Football-type role of sorts I.e. He is the one deciding who the club signs (what a surprise, it's a lot of players he coincidentally represents in his capacity as an agent) and the one negotiating the players contracts. When signing his own players, obviously it's in his interest to give them as high a wage as possible because he gets a cut of that, and he effectively gives himself an agent fee because he is both the DoF for the club AND the players agent. It's just so unbelievably corrupt.

The PL shouldnt allow Wolves to enter if they get promoted. They are so clearly corcumventing rules and screwing themselves(yet again, might I add) while there at it. Baffling that the FA is doing nothing about this. So since the FA isnt, the PL should do something about it this summer. For Wolves’ own good too before they completely fuck themselves a second time in recent years

 

[danielneeds]

The PL shouldnt allow Wolves to enter if they get promoted. They are so clearly corcumventing rules and screwing themselves(yet again, might I add) while there at it. Baffling that the FA is doing nothing about this. So since the FA isnt, the PL should do something about it this summer. For Wolves’ own good too before they completely fuck themselves a second time in recent years

It really depends on what the fine print is in the economics behind Wolves. If the aim is to get in the PL and sell some of the players that Mendes has parked there for big money, then it’s not necessarily true that the club will be shafted. They will still get a big cut of the the money, as well as the PL tv money. Essentially they’re just going to be similar to what the Pozzos are trying to do with Watford. Be good enough to stay in the PL but sell players at premium prices and buy them in cheap.

 

[yankspurs]

It really depends on what the fine print is in the economics behind Wolves. If the aim is to get in the PL and sell some of the players that Mendes has parked there for big money, then it’s not necessarily true that the club will be shafted. They will still get a big cut of the the money, as well as the PL tv money. Essentially they’re just going to be similar to what the Pozzos are trying to do with Watford. Be good enough to stay in the PL but sell players at premium prices and buy them in cheap.

Except they’ve stated they aim to spend their way back to the top immediately

 

[tiger666]

Except they’ve stated they aim to spend their way back to the top immediately

Whats wrong with that?

 

[Shadydan]

Except they’ve stated they aim to spend their way back to the top immediately

Is that illegal?

 

[beats1]

The PL shouldnt allow Wolves to enter if they get promoted. They are so clearly corcumventing rules and screwing themselves(yet again, might I add) while there at it. Baffling that the FA is doing nothing about this. So since the FA isnt, the PL should do something about it this summer. For Wolves’ own good too before they completely fuck themselves a second time in recent years

You're american, so I almost certain you dont know too much about Wolverhampton

Imagine an old coal city/automotive manufacturing city that has lost its coal plant/car plant. That old run down city is basically Wolverhampton, its lucky as there is still a lot of jobs in the neighbouring areas like the west midlands and Birmingham(2nd biggest city in England)

However it is one of the worst and most depressing places to live in the UK

This is the best thing that has happened to them, let them have this win especially since they relegated themselves by sacking Mick. I have family from the nicer part of wolves(still crap imo)

However my family from wolves are originally from newcastle and they say wolves fans are the worst with liverpool fans, as they always live in the past LOL

 

[beats1]

Is that illegal?

No

 

[yankspurs]

Is that illegal?

No but when you have your DOF also being the agent of the players you sign, its an enormous conflict of interest, creates a greater likelihood of of being in violation of FFP and it could just fuck them over even more.

 

[DCSPUR]

did you notice that Citeh leaked that Sterling is going to be on close to 250K....is it too cynical to think that giving him a bumper rise when there is zero competition for him is more about further screwing their rivals? Because now other players will think....if Raheem got 250k why should i settle for 150k....

 

[beats1]

Except they’ve stated they aim to spend their way back to the top immediately

They havent spent that much

They have loaned 5 players from Mendes friendly clubs, and they only spent
Around £15.8m for Neves from Porto, who was wanted by Liverpool
Around £2m for Miranda from Rio Ave, who is now wanted by Braga
Around £1.5m for Mir from Valencia, who was subject of 3 or 4 bids from Real Madrid last month but valencia refused to sell before allowing him to go to Wolves
Around £1m for Douglas from a turkish club
Less than 0.5m for Yang (swiss born Chinese player)

In total they spent around £21m whilst they sold around £10m worth of talent(including two sales going through the last couple of days)

So they spent a net of £11.5m

Compare that to the spending of others(this isnt net)
£50m Middlesbrough
£16.6m Fulham
£16.5m Leeds
£16m Birmingham
£14m Hull
£13m Sheffield Wednesday

They arent ridiculously outspending the league, its just they are getting players who have CL experience and not seen in the league before