Goals & Assists 09/10

[davros]

I think there is a case for giving the assist to the person winning the penalty. If you are in the area about to pull the trigger or lay the ball off for someone else to score, then get your legs taken out illegally, you deserve the credit for putting the opposition under pressure.

If you are outnumbered in the penalty area with no support from your team mates and you draw a foul using cunning and trickery, you have won your team a goalscoring opportunity.

I say give the assist.

 

[WexfordTownSpur]

I made a thread like this last year.

I will update this as the season goes on....

Goalkeepers:
Heurelho Gomes (22 apps)
Carlo Cudicini (7 (1) apps)
David Button (0 (1) apps)

Defenders:
Alan Hutton (7 (6) apps) - 0 goals / 0 assists
Gareth Bale (8 (5) apps) - 0 goals / 3 assists (CC, FA2)
Kyle Naughton (1 (2) apps) - 0 goals / 0 assists
Benoit Assou-Ekotto (21 apps) - 1 goal (PL)/ 0 assists
Vedran Corluka (24 (1) apps) - 1 goal (PL)/ 1 assist (PL)
Michael Dawson (16 (4) apps) - 2 goals (PL2) / 0 assists
Sebastien Bassong (23 (1) apps) - 1 goal (PL) / 0 assists
Jonathan Woodgate (3 apps)- 0 goals / 0 assists
Ledley King (11 (1) apps) - 1 goal (PL) / 0 assists

Midfielders:
Aaron Lennon (19 (1) apps) - 3 goals (PL3) / 11 assists (PL9, CC2)
Jamie O'Hara (1 (2) apps) - 1 goal (CC) / 0 assists
Luka Modric (10 (2) apps) - 1 goal (PL) / 3 assists (PL2, FA)
David Bentley (7 (2) apps) - 3 goals (PL2, CC) / 4 assists (PL, CC3)
Niko Kranjcar (14 (4) apps) - 6 goals (PL4, FA2) / 4 assists (PL4)
Danny Rose (1 (2) apps) - 0 goals / 2 assists (FA2)
Giovani Dos Santos (2 (1) apps) - 0 goals / 1 assist (CC)
Jermaine Jenas (10 (10) apps) - 1 goal (PL) / 3 assists (PL2, CC)
Tom Huddlestone (26 (1) apps) - 3 goals (PL, CC2) / 4 assists (PL3, CC)
Wilson Palacios (26 (2) apps) - 1 goal (PL) / 1 assist (PL)
Kevin Prince-Boateng (1 apps) - 0 goals / 1 assist (CC)

Forwards:
Roman Pavlyuchenko (2 (6) apps) - 2 goals (CC, FA) / 1 assist (PL)
Jermain Defoe (23 (2) apps) - 17 goals (PL15, CC, FA) / 3 assists (PL2, FA)
Robbie Keane (18 (6) apps) - 9 goals (PL6, CC2, FA) / 2 assists (PL2)
Peter Crouch (17 (10) apps) - 10 goals (PL5, CC4, FA) / 6 assists (PL6)

CC: Carling Cup
FA: FA Cup
PL: Premier League
apps: appearances (Games Started (as sub) )

Top Goalscorers:
1. Jermain Defoe - 17
2. Peter Crouch - 10
3. Robbie Keane - 9
4. Niko Kranjcar - 6
5. Huddlestone/Lennon/Bentley - 3

Assist Leaders:
1. Aaron Lennon - 11
2. Peter Crouch - 6
3. Tom Huddlestone - 4
4. David Bentley - 4
5. Niko Kranjcar - 4

Top Goalscorers (League only):
1. Jermain Defoe - 15
2. Robbie Keane - 6
3. Peter Crouch - 5
4. Niko Kranjcar - 4
5. Aaron Lennon - 3

Assist Leaders (League only):
1. Aaron Lennon - 9
2. Peter Crouch - 6
3. Niko Kranjcar - 4
4. Tom Huddlestone - 3
5. Defoe/Keane/JJ/Modric - 2

Goals&Assists combined:
1. Jermain Defoe - 20 (17goals, 3assists)
2. Peter Crouch - 16 (10goals, 6assists)
3. Aaron Lennon - 14 (3goals, 11assists)
4. Robbie Keane - 11 (9goals, 2assists)
5. Niko Kranjcar - 10 (6goals, 4assists)

Couple of things jump out there - Lennon has to get fit ASAP
Crouch, Defoe and kranjcar all need to play - and Bentley appearances to goals and assist record is pretty good!

If EG can at lease emulate keanes record for the rest of the season, we will do ok!

 

[robbiesavagehasbreasts]

Defoe is now up to 20 goals.

...and it's only february.

 

[robbiesavagehasbreasts]

bump.

 

[al_pacino]

Eidur needs an assist for the second, without the dummy we don't score.

 

[robbiesavagehasbreasts]

Eidur needs an assist for the second, without the dummy we don't score.

Yeah, I almost gave it to him. I'm still thinking it over.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

Good work, cheers fella. :up:

Although looks like you need to swap Niko and Keano's places in the Goals+Assists.

 

[Goldman]

Good stats RSHB, I hadn't realised how much Niko has contributed overall.

 

[robbiesavagehasbreasts]

Good work, cheers fella. :up:

Although looks like you need to swap Niko and Keano's places in the Goals+Assists.

done.

and cheeers.

 

[Chimbo!]

Kranjcar is in the top 5 for every single one despite only playing 22 games.

Kranjcar = Quality.

What a signing by Harry.

 

[StartingPrice]

And therein lies the problem with statistics.

With less playing time, David Bentley has sscored/assisted more than Luca Modric, and is therefore :shrug: a better player :roll:

In the meantime, by not touching the ball, Eidur Gudjonhsen doesn't get an assist for his dummy, yesterday, even though, in effect, it set up the goal and had the same value as an assist - but I notice that Disco Benny doesn't get an assist, either, even though it was him who crossed the ball. So, because Gudj. dummied the ball it was an assistless goal:shrug:

Stats:roll:

 

[nightgoat]

Fantasy Premier League have given BAE the assist... Not that their interpretation of the game is actually worth anything...

 

[Marty]

That was a clear assist for Benni for me. He is the second last man to play the ball, so he should get the assist. What Gud does, regardless of how influential it was in the goal, isn't an assist in a strictly technical sense as he didn't touch it.

 

[robbiesavagehasbreasts]

And therein lies the problem with statistics.

With less playing time, David Bentley has sscored/assisted more than Luca Modric, and is therefore :shrug: a better player :roll:

In the meantime, by not touching the ball, Eidur Gudjonhsen doesn't get an assist for his dummy, yesterday, even though, in effect, it set up the goal and had the same value as an assist - but I notice that Disco Benny doesn't get an assist, either, even though it was him who crossed the ball. So, because Gudj. dummied the ball it was an assistless goal:shrug:

Stats:roll:

I gave Disco the assist. It's there in the originial post.

Like I said earlier, I'm still thinking it over about Guddy's involvement and whether to give him the assist. For me he did just as much to make the goal as Ekotto but I can't give it to them both.

David Bentley has 1 more goal and 1 more assist and the difference in playing time is just a few games really. So it's nothing really. Also, if you look at it Bentley has only contributed to 3 premier league goals. A lot of the assists are from cup games against lower league oppositions (Preston, Doncaster, Leeds, etc.). Meanwhile Modric has contributed to 5 premier league goals.

And this thread isn't to show who's the best player. This is simply a thread counting the goals and assists. If anyone is getting "Bentley is better than Modric" out of this than that's their problem.

 

[StartingPrice]

I gave Disco the assist. It's there in the originial post.

Like I said earlier, I'm still thinking it over about Guddy's involvement and whether to give him the assist. For me he did just as much to make the goal as Ekotto but I can't give it to them both.

David Bentley has 1 more goal and 1 more assist and the difference in playing time is just a few games really. So it's nothing really. Also, if you look at it Bentley has only contributed to 3 premier league goals. A lot of the assists are from cup games against lower league oppositions (Preston, Doncaster, Leeds, etc.). Meanwhile Modric has contributed to 5 premier league goals.

And this thread isn't to show who's the best player. This is simply a thread counting the goals and assists. If anyone is getting "Bentley is better than Modric" out of this than that's their problem.

"Calm-down" (in best scouse accent:grin, I is only messing...are you a statistician or summit:shrug:

It's just a general 'let's all laugh at stats' post...I wouldn't be baseing my opinions on the value of players on stats, or stats alone, anyway (and I actually still rate Bentley - if he get's his act together), (but better than Modders he ain't).

On a 'slightly' more serious note, the technical reality is that Benny gets the assist - but really does show how the whole idea of having assists can (also) be misleading, 'cos that goal largely came about due to Guddy's awareness.

 

[haxman]

Fantasy Premier League have given BAE the assist... Not that their interpretation of the game is actually worth anything...

They're usually correct with their awarding of assists actually, they review everything within 24 hours, I've seen things changed quite often after review.

That was a clear assist for Benni for me. He is the second last man to play the ball, so he should get the assist. What Gud does, regardless of how influential it was in the goal, isn't an assist in a strictly technical sense as he didn't touch it.

Spot on, had Gudjohnsen tried to kick the ball and missed it and it went through to Kranjcar, he wouldn't have got an assist so why should he get an assist for stepping over it even though it was a key part of the move?

 

[robbiesavagehasbreasts]

"Calm-down" (in best scouse accent:grin, I is only messing...are you a statistician or summit:shrug:

It's just a general 'let's all laugh at stats' post...I wouldn't be baseing my opinions on the value of players on stats, or stats alone, anyway (and I actually still rate Bentley - if he get's his act together), (but better than Modders he ain't).

On a 'slightly' more serious note, the technical reality is that Benny gets the assist - but really does show how the whole idea of having assists can (also) be misleading, 'cos that goal largely came about due to Guddy's awareness.

I was calm, dude. I was just answering your post and you raised some valid points (well, with stats being misleading).

 

[robbiesavagehasbreasts]

updated.

 

[PaddoSpurs]

Well Done RSHB!

Is 20 different goal scorers in one season a club record?

Is it even a league record?

Obviously it shows a depth in our squad even though Harry often seems reluctance to rotate players and indeed provide late subs to the younger players.

 

[robbiesavagehasbreasts]

Bump.

Season Over.