Harry Kane

[-Afri-Coy-]

His demeanour in the interview other day when asked about Paratici was pretty downbeat. I suspect he’s already been told we are keeping him this summer and he’s not for sale. It will be up to him and his brother if they force a move or not. I suspect they will and we’ll see a build up of press reports in the short term and then again at the end of the window. Levy just needs to stand strong and not be tempted by the money. I don’t think he will be because our reaction in the stadium will be even worse than it will be without selling him.

That's the defining question then, will he force a move or not? And if he does, do we turn down 150+ million and stand our ground or do we get the investment in and start planning for life without him?

If he is adamant on leaving, the best we can do is squeeze the lemon for every drop of juice and hope that Paratici invests it wisely.

It will be almost impossible to replace what he brings to the side, but we need massive change anyway and if he wants to leave why delay the inevitable?

It's all up in the air at the moment which is the most frustrating thing for the fans.

 

[olliec]

Don’t think we need to sell Kane if we get a good deal for the naming rights of the stadium and can actually strengthen where we need to. Question is will Levy use that money for new players?

 

[spursfan77]

That's the defining question then, will he force a move or not? And if he does, do we turn down 150+ million and stand our ground or do we get the investment in and start planning for life without him?

If he is adamant on leaving, the best we can do is squeeze the lemon for every drop of juice and hope that Paratici invests it wisely.

It will be almost impossible to replace what he brings to the side, but we need massive change anyway and if he wants to leave why delay the inevitable?

It's all up in the air at the moment which is the most frustrating thing for the fans.

Stand our ground. There’s more at stake here than money. It’s about standing up to clubs like Man City.

 

[dontcallme]

Don’t think we need to sell if we get a good deal for the naming rights of the stadium and can actually strengthen where we need to. Question is will Levy use that money for new players?

We’ll surely need to sell for squad spaces won’t we?

 

[luRRka]

We’ll surely need to sell for squad spaces won’t we?

I think he's talking specifically sell kane rather than sell players in general

 

[dontcallme]

I think he's talking specifically sell kane rather than sell players in general

Sorry, you’re right. Didn’t see I was in the Kane thread.

 

[olliec]

We’ll surely need to sell for squad spaces won’t we?

Changed it.

 

[dontcallme]

Changed it.

Thanks but you didn’t really need to. I forgot it was the Kane thread.

 

[razzmaster]

I would love for Levy to reject all offers for Harry and make him see out his contract.

Worst case scenario is he leaves for free but our wage bill reduces signicantly.

Best case is we win trophies and Harry signs a contract to see out the rest of his career with us.

In 3 years time we may be able to sign a top quality replacement on a free or we might already have someone in our ranks to take over.

Whether that is a striker that we sign between now and then or Parrott, Scarlett or Donley might explode onto the scene.

Whatever happens, Kane cost us nothing to buy so if we are brave enough we may not need to sell.

 

[dagraham]

Kane doesn't immediately condemn racism and he's not taking opportunity to use his position of power to tackle the subject. Kane condemns racism and he comes across as holier than thou. God this place makes me laugh, always at least one poster has to take something negative out of every situation.

Yep, and I thought I was a grumpy fucker.

 

[easley91]

I would love for Levy to reject all offers for Harry and make him see out his contract.

Worst case scenario is he leaves for free but our wage bill reduces signicantly.

Best case is we win trophies and Harry signs a contract to see out the rest of his career with us.

In 3 years time we may be able to sign a top quality replacement on a free or we might already have someone in our ranks to take over.

Whether that is a striker that we sign between now and then or Parrott, Scarlett or Donley might explode onto the scene.

Whatever happens, Kane cost us nothing to buy so if we are brave enough we may not need to sell.

£150M+ or nothing? I know which one I'd take. If Kane is so deadset on leaving, do it next summer. There's still enough years left now that Levy has the power.

 

[Cel]

£150M+ or nothing? I know which one I'd take. If Kane is so deadset on leaving, do it next summer. There's still enough years left now that Levy has the power.

Well, it's not nothing I guess, it's paying 50m a year for 3 years of Harry Kane. Not sure if that adds up to maximised value from the deal, by it's defo not nothing.

Assuming he is desperate to leave (I still haven't seen stronger than a crossroads, and wanting a discussion, but admittedly may have missed it), the issue to me more lies with up and coming players seeing we've held on against his will, and blocked his career goals and steering clear of us if so, as they don't want the same to happen.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Well, it's not nothing I guess, it's paying 50m a year for 3 years of Harry Kane. Not sure if that adds up to maximised value from the deal, by it's defo not nothing.

Assuming he is desperate to leave (I still haven't seen stronger than a crossroads, and wanting a discussion, but admittedly may have missed it), the issue to me more lies with up and coming players seeing we've held on against his will, and blocked his career goals and steering clear of us if so, as they don't want the same to happen.

I see your point mate, but held against his will? Blocked his career goals?

Nobody held a gun to his head when he agreed to sign his extremely lucrative 6 year contract back in 2018.

If his career goals are what you're thinking, ie a move elsewhere, he's the one who's ultimately blocked his path & the club has every right to hold him to his contract for the entirety of it, or until someone makes a ludicrously huge offer to make the club think of letting him go.

 

[dontcallme]

I see your point mate, but held against his will? Blocked his career goals?

Nobody held a gun to his head when he agreed to sign his extremely lucrative 6 year contract back in 2018.

If his career goals are what you're thinking, ie a move elsewhere, he's the one who's ultimately blocked his path & the club has every right to hold him to his contract for the entirety of it, or until someone makes a ludicrously huge offer to make the club think of letting him go.

Jenas wrote a good article a few years ago about how the other players see a player staying when wanting to leave.

He said when players clearly want to leave and are having to stay it does have a negative impact on them.

The club does have the right to hold onto a player but if they do it for too long it will be to the detriment of everyone.

Let's just hope Kane isn't that desperate to leave.

 

[razzmaster]

£150M+ or nothing? I know which one I'd take. If Kane is so deadset on leaving, do it next summer. There's still enough years left now that Levy has the power.

It's not as simple as that though. We might not get a 150m offer this summer. We might not get 100m offer next summer. We might waste the money on poor buys. Our record of signing goalscorers isn't the best and Kane guarantees you goals. He might be the difference between Champions League and Europa League.

If we do sell Kane then prices will go up so we won't get value for money.

3 years more of Kane might just be worth more to us that any money he brings in.

Ultimately, I haven't got any confidence that we would spend the money correctly so I'd rather stick with what we have as we know what Harry provides, and that is goals and assists in greater quantity than any other player in the league.

 

[spids]

If Levy was guaranteed Kane would try 100% every minute and score 20+ goals and get 20+ assists every year then I have no doubt he'd happily let him run his contract down and leave for free in 3 years. This is why players usually have to kick up a stink to get a move. Hopefully it will not come to that with a player who is / will be a club legend of the highest order.

 

[dontcallme]

It's not as simple as that though. We might not get a 150m offer this summer. We might not get 100m offer next summer. We might waste the money on poor buys. Our record of signing goalscorers isn't the best and Kane guarantees you goals. He might be the difference between Champions League and Europa League.

If we do sell Kane then prices will go up so we won't get value for money.

3 years more of Kane might just be worth more to us that any money he brings in.

Ultimately, I haven't got any confidence that we would spend the money correctly so I'd rather stick with what we have as we know what Harry provides, and that is goals and assists in greater quantity than any other player in the league.

I think it's Kane attitude and motivation that will be key to if we should keep him or not.

He's the model professional but if his head really is in a place where he wants to be at an elite club then his days at the club will be numbered.

I don't think we should sell him based on the transfer fee. As you say we can't be completely confident in replacing him adequately.

The only thing I would say is with the proposed fees for players being lower right now, reported £15m for Sabitzer for example, then we might be able to make better use of the money than we normally would.

 

[dace]

imo I would keep Kane for his contract length.
The very fact Spurs have the England captain and with the World Cup coming up ( November 2022) that does give us worldwide exposure.
I really think that we will not even entertain him going next year with the WC in the following season.
He is pretty much irreplaceable for us in this moment.

Maybe Paratici and NES will get in some signings and we start (and stay) strong, this may help ease Kane into staying with us.
We may also just play him for League games to rest him, he needs time off now and again, playing every game is detrimental to his health.

Time is going to tell !!

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Jenas wrote a good article a few years ago about how the other players see a player staying when wanting to leave.

He said when players clearly want to leave and are having to stay it does have a negative impact on them.

The club does have the right to hold onto a player but if they do it for too long it will be to the detriment of everyone.

Let's just hope Kane isn't that desperate to leave.

I can understand that, but hopefully the image we all have of Kane, ie the consummate professional, is correct & he's not going to be the type who sulks, downs tools & becomes a negative influence within the squad.

From the outside looking in, it doesn't appear like he'd purposely cause issues within the club (though I do realise the pre Euro statements, from his brother? weren't exactly helpful).

 

[GarlicBread]

On the one hand you may think let him go if he wants to, but on the other hand, think of all the critical players we’ve sold and not adequately replaced in the last 15 years:
Carrick -> Zokora
Berbatov/Keane -> Bent
Modric -> probably the best with Dembele replacing him
Bale -> Lamela
Walker -> Aurier
Dembele -> Ndombele, not consistently controlling a game like Moussa could
Eriksen -> Lo Celso, not had the same impact as Eriksen
Vertongen -> Rodon, looks like he might be a top centre back, but not at the level of Jan

So yeah, it worries me with our record what we would even do if we did get £150m.