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Bidding for Ings, potentially splashing lots of cash on Kounde - today’s news suggests more to me that we’re getting ready for potential Kane sale.
 

worcestersauce

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Bidding for Ings, potentially splashing lots of cash on Kounde - today’s news suggests more to me that we’re getting ready for potential Kane sale.
I'm surprised so many people accept the two up front stuff unquestioned, the obvious conclusion if we bring in Ings is that Kane is off. Personally I accepted it at the end of the season so I'm probably looking at it through eyes undimmed by the lens of hope.
 

$hoguN

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I'm surprised so many people accept the two up front stuff unquestioned, the obvious conclusion if we bring in Ings is that Kane is off. Personally I accepted it at the end of the season so I'm probably looking at it through eyes undimmed by the lens of hope.
Why? Kane’s stand point has always been match his ambition and he will stay. Now we are getting reports we are looking at deals which could solidify our defence, bring in a settling presence in midfield, and competition up front, so he must be off?

I’m not saying if he will or won’t go, but we aren’t talking huge sums of money (in relative terms) for these transfers. This is the type of smart business we have done in past and brought us to where we are.

If the stadium will be fully open next season, then keeping Kane becomes even more important for commercial reasons too
 

worcestersauce

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I'd be happy if I'm wrong but I do believe last season was the one where we were supposed to match his ambition, with the most successful manager around too but it failed. It's not convincing him to stay it's convincing him to stay all over again and I don't think we can. My gut feel is that by the end of the season he saw no way forward here and so, perhaps reluctantly, made his mind up and once a man has done that he's emotionally let go and it's hard to come back from that.
 

BedfordshireSpud

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The missing piece to this jigsaw is whether we are holding back significant news of a cash injection such as naming rights. It must make sense to have a strategy to forward fund a push to get back to CL and keeping Kane this year is key to that.
 

DogsOfWar

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Bidding for Ings, potentially splashing lots of cash on Kounde - today’s news suggests more to me that we’re getting ready for potential Kane sale.

Whilst I wouldn't rule out a Kane sale the transfer budget will be based on this years predicted turnover.
If the forecast is based on full attendances and all the other events going ahead we will have a reasonable transfer budget.
 

ralphs bald spot

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The only place that Kane can go to that makes any sense is Chelsea - City have said they don't have the money according to Guardiola United doesn't look like they will after they through lumps at Sancho (not sure how much they are getting for James - that only leaves Chelsea and we are unlikely to make that easy though we could pick up some decent talent in exchange Abrahams, Hudson Odoi would make a lot of sense

I think overall this season anyway its going to be hard for Kane to go and if he does its going to be a late deal which won't suit us at all and m then imakes a players plus cash deal much more likely than a straight show us your money deal. Sadly again despite what we all might like to think its all very much in Kane's court despite the 3 year contract which we should all know by now
 

worcestersauce

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The only place that Kane can go to that makes any sense is Chelsea - City have said they don't have the money according to Guardiola United doesn't look like they will after they through lumps at Sancho (not sure how much they are getting for James - that only leaves Chelsea and we are unlikely to make that easy though we could pick up some decent talent in exchange Abrahams, Hudson Odoi would make a lot of sense

I think overall this season anyway its going to be hard for Kane to go and if he does its going to be a late deal which won't suit us at all and m then imakes a players plus cash deal much more likely than a straight show us your money deal. Sadly again despite what we all might like to think its all very much in Kane's court despite the 3 year contract which we should all know by now
I wouldn't want either of those players from Chelsea to be honest.
I think it will be a late deal if it happens because we'll want to sort out our incomings ahead of it.
 

mil1lion

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I hear what you are saying. But In the opposite scenario, if the club wants rid of a player who does not live up to the club’s initial expectations - the club will always have to honor the contract (e.g. Winston Bogarde, Danny Rose etc). So if the club should be on the hook for the entire contract period, so should the player. Having said that, in reality, a player who goes on strike will pretty much always get his way eventually (like Berba, Modric, Bale etc).
I think Levy has toughened his stance since we sold Berbatov. He only sold Modric to Real Madrid a year later than stopping him joining Chelsea. He also only sold Bale abroad too. I think the big difference with Kane now is that the main links seem to be English teams and it will take a lot for Levy to sell to a rival. Although Kane would never go on strike anyway so we should be OK there.
 

Trix

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I think Levy has toughened his stance since we sold Berbatov. He only sold Modric to Real Madrid a year later than stopping him joining Chelsea. He also only sold Bale abroad too. I think the big difference with Kane now is that the main links seem to be English teams and it will take a lot for Levy to sell to a rival. Although Kane would never go on strike anyway so we should be OK there.
Levy was happy to take a strong stance with Berbatov as well. It was Ramos that didn't want to keep a player who didn't want to be here because it would cause problems within the squad.
 

Spurs_S.A.

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I think Levy has toughened his stance since we sold Berbatov. He only sold Modric to Real Madrid a year later than stopping him joining Chelsea. He also only sold Bale abroad too. I think the big difference with Kane now is that the main links seem to be English teams and it will take a lot for Levy to sell to a rival. Although Kane would never go on strike anyway so we should be OK there.
We have to be realistic, City is not our rivals and we might need the cash.
 

Romario

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Levy was happy to take a strong stance with Berbatov as well. It was Ramos that didn't want to keep a player who didn't want to be here because it would cause problems within the squad.
I referred earlier in this thread to various internet articles concerning a 'gentleman's agreement' which Harry claims exists him and Levy following a discussion prior to the start of last season. I would greatly appreciate your viewpoint on this matter. Is it all rubbish or could there be a grain of truth in there ?.
 

Aphex

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Levy was happy to take a strong stance with Berbatov as well. It was Ramos that didn't want to keep a player who didn't want to be here because it would cause problems within the squad.


Berbatov was also a completely different personality. He was a primadonna, complex and arrogant, who would have caused untold amount of problems....something Kane would never do at Spurs.

That said, getting Frazier Campbell in return on deadline day was the lowest point of Levy's questionable transfer decisions. Horrendous. Why on earth we didn't sign a replacement early doors was just shocking.
 

kd2000

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We have to be realistic, City is not our rivals and we might need the cash.
Maybe you need to re-evaluate what you class as a rival.
We literally played them this season in a final.
Therefore they were our closest rival and the team that ultimately prevented us from winning the cup.
Success is not only through winning the league.
 

mil1lion

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Bidding for Ings, potentially splashing lots of cash on Kounde - today’s news suggests more to me that we’re getting ready for potential Kane sale.
Ings isn't going to be that expensive though and Kounde would be along the lines of going for Skriniar last summer. We need a striker to replace Vinicius anyway so Ings makes sense because his contract is running down. We also need a top centre back regardless of what happens with Kane.

I do like Ings but he is nowhere near good enough to replace Kane anyway. If we had plans to sell Kane I would expect a much bigger signing in addition to Ings. For me we need a versatile attacker who can play alongside Kane or lead the line which Ings can do. If we lose Kane we need a top quality replacement which would cost 50m +.
 

robotsonic

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Never put much stock in any 'gentleman's agreement' rumours, and certainly not pertaining to anything happening this year. Daniel Levy, after spaffing out a huge pay rise in exchange for a six year commitment from Kane, isn't two years into that deal going to then agree to let him go half way through it.

It's just not how he has ever worked, and makes no sense for the club at all on the pitch or off of it. If we have a naming rights deal coming, which we will at some point even if we ended up settling for a little less if we needed the cash, and get back to full stadia, we simply don't need the money enough to let him go, this year or the next. Rather nail him down for the next two seasons, and if he's still the same player after that then he'll still fetch a high price even with a single year left. I can't see him ever causing the problems required to force his way out if we don't play ball, as anything that he does puts going after Shearer's PL record in jeopardy, be that playing with a strop on, or refusing to play entirely.
 
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