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Romario

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But isn’t that what he’s trying to get the club to do with his antics? Why give him and City what they want? Let him stew for the rest of the month and if by then City haven’t met our Valuation, which should be well in excess of 150M, he can start earning his way back into the 1st team. He wants to go to the WC and he wants goal scoring records so he’ll have no choice but to fall in line and perform.
I won't disagree with your post as you have with mine because I can see your point of view and you make some valid points. My concern is over your comments about 'earning his way back into the 1st team' and all that entails regarding overall squad morale. It will create divisions amongst players with differing opinions on Harry's situation.
As I said, I think it would now be in the best interests of all concerned if he left without returning. Maybe it can be seen as 'giving in' but if it's also in the best interests of everyone, especially at this time of trying to move forward from our less than illustrious recent past then so be it.
We shall agree to disagree my friend.
 

KaribYid

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I can't even describe how angry, disappointed and bitter I am towards Kane for how he's treated the Club and the fans. Whilst I can understand his desire to win the biggest prizes, he has gone about seeking his move in the most shambolic, idiotic way ever. Even if he stays, his reputation and relationship with the fans is ruined forever.

I've been pretty critical of Levy over the past few years, and from a big picture perspective, he plays a big part in the decline of the football side of the club that led us to this point.

But, as I've always said, Levy has his positives and situations like these are where he really shows his value by ensuring the Club's interests are protected.

I refuse to join the "just ensure we sell him" crowd because we cannot allow players to think that by acting as disgracefully as Kane has that they will be ensured a move.

Levy has genuinely been fair in these situations in the past. When Bale kicked up, he got his move and we got a world record fee. Modric would not have been sold to Chelsea under any circumstances but he was granted his move a year later to a bigger club for a lesser fee. Berbatov went on strike but was eventually sold and we got what would have been a British transfer record had those scummy oil barons not bought Robinho on the same day.

As far as we can tell, and from ITK snippets, the option of selling Kane isn't even off the table - only that we will sell him for what we value him at. If City and the Kane's think that they can bully the Club into selling the best striker in the world for relative peanuts then they're not only wrong, they're fucking stupid.

I genuinely think Kane has backed himself into a corner here. If he wakes up September 1 still a Spurs player, he cant sit the season out as England captain in a World Cup year, he'll have three years left on his contract and he would have ruined everything he built at Spurs.

But in a twisted way, I rather we keep him and have him sulk for the year IF City dont stump up the money than allow ourselves to be taken for mugs.
 

DenverSpur

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I won't disagree with your post as you have with mine because I can see your point of view and you make some valid points. My concern is over your comments about 'earning his way back into the 1st team' and all that entails regarding overall squad morale. It will create divisions amongst players with differing opinions on Harry's situation.
As I said, I think it would now be in the best interests of all concerned if he left without returning. Maybe it can be seen as 'giving in' but if it's also in the best interests of everyone, especially at this time of trying to move forward from our less than illustrious recent past then so be it.
We shall agree to disagree my friend.
I’m not saying your wrong but if we just “ let him leave” because he has created a poisonous atmosphere as result of his actions aren’t we in danger of creating a template for both unhappy players to force an exit and for buying clubs who don’t want to pay the selling club’s price. We are in a bit of a no win situation at the moment.
I think the European clubs do it better by including a buy out clause in their big players contracts or doing like Dortmund, for example, do and state their selling price with an expiration date. That way everybody know where they stand right from the get go.
 

whitechina

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I’m somewhat reluctant to raise this thought, as I am sure it could come across as sanctimonious pearl-clutching… and perhaps it is and I am yet to realize it, but does Kane’s actions in the greater context of the world these last 18 months leave a particularly bad taste in anyone’s mouth? Refusing to work while earning top wages, while so many people have lost jobs is in incredibly poor taste.

And if he is indeed taking advantage of quarantine restrictions to delay his return, as some have suggested, then that’s even worse. That is speculation though, so let’s leave that at that for now.

I thought I would post to get a gauge on if I’m over-reacting or if there is a rational agreement with this.
No you are on the money
Incredibly poor taste and he has gone down in my estimations.
Shouldn't be England captain even if he stays- this sets such a bad example in these times
 

Vwbottom

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Excuse me - say what? Florida is the very hotspot of COVID Delta outbreak in the US, and there is no quarantine travelling from there to the UK?!? ??

Who’s in charge of the UK quarantine system - Charlie Kane?

Worryingly Charlie Kane is a genius compared to whose actually in charge of that.
 

easley91

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yet somehow Villa can strike a deal with City for Grealish and Soton with Villa for Ings without the theatrics. The players change but Levy is always in the equation when it comes to drama.
Perhaps because City offered up what Villa value the player and likewise Villa offered up what Southampton value Ings. You'd be bashing Levy if he accepted the £100m they apparently originally offered for not holding out for more.

This one isn't on Levy. Jack Grealish turned up to Villa training this week. Harry Kane hasn't even come back to the country. That isn't on Levy whatsoever.
 
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Romario

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I’m not saying your wrong but if we just “ let him leave” because he has created a poisonous atmosphere as result of his actions aren’t we in danger of creating a template for both unhappy players to force an exit and for buying clubs who don’t want to pay the selling club’s price. We are in a bit of a no win situation at the moment.
I think the European clubs do it better by including a buy out clause in their big players contracts or doing like Dortmund, for example, do and state their selling price with an expiration date. That way everybody know where they stand right from the get go.
100% agree about the buyout clause, best way to deal with the problem. I was just worried Harry could turn into a very, very expensive version of Danny Rose. We will soon find out either way my friend.
 

Gbspurs

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So he's now deciding what games he wants to play and has taken more time off than any player from the euros or copa

To be fair fans have been crying out for Kane to have more rest and not rush back in the past!
 

double0

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We're all really just guessing as to what's going on with Kane's absence ... All will come out in the wash soon.
 

THOWIG

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If I was him I’d be thinking do Manchester City, who desperately need another striker, actually want me and why have they signed another AM instead? But I’m guessing he’s not that savvy.
 

Spurslove

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He’ll have to come back at some point.

£200m or he stays. Just like Luka had to.

Daniel doesn’t care if he no like chikin badge anymore…

In the words of Harry Redknapp 'Daniel doesn't do emotion'. Hopefully, Fabio will have a quiet word in his ear and try to convince him to accept a possibly slightly higher offer, so that the critical recruitment process can really start moving forwards.

I've had a re-think these last few days. Firstly, I was hoping Levy would demand £200 million for him but now, I just want the club to be rid of him. City know their pathetic offer of £100 million was rejected but if they come back with an offer of say, £130-140 million I think we should take it and use it wisely.

And another thing, I hope, if City do come back with an offer of that nature, we accept it a few days before the transfer window closes. That would mean Kane hasn't kicked a ball since the Euro final and he'l have had no pre-season, and no training, so his match fitness level will be in the toilet. Also of course, if we know the money is coming, we can crack on and buy the players we need at the same time as shifting a few out. Simples.
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tierhause

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Haaland is available for 75m next summer so not sure why City would get held to ransom for Kane
City aren't "being held to ransom", they're just being asked to pay the fair price for the league's best forward.
The message (especially from itks) appears to be that H can go, as long as his value is met.
 

whitechina

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Haaland is available for 75m next summer so not sure why City would get held to ransom for Kane
While City do 'need' a new striker- they have so many options that they could/should wait a year for Haarland (of course Haarland might not want to join them and choose another destination- that's a different story).
The basic saving of 100m+ makes this a very interesting point for a player who is younger.
it's going to be interesting
 

Nebby

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yet somehow Villa can strike a deal with City for Grealish and Soton with Villa for Ings without the theatrics. The players change but Levy is always in the equation when it comes to drama.
Agenda much? Ings plays for Villa now because Villa paid what was acceptable to Southampton. If Grealish moves it will be for the same reason.
 

Nebby

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In the words of Harry Redknapp 'Daniel doesn't do emotion'. Hopefully, Fabio will have a quiet word in his ear and try to convince him to accept a possibly slightly higher offer, so that the critical recruitment process can really start moving forwards.

I've had a re-think these last few days. Firstly, I was hoping Levy would demand £200 million for him but now, I just want the club to be rid of him. City know their pathetic offer of £100 million was rejected but if they come back with an offer of say, £130-140 million I think we should take it and use it wisely.

And another thing, I hope, if City do come back with an offer of that nature, we accept it a few days before the transfer window closes. That would mean Kane hasn't kicked a ball since the Euro final and he'l have had no pre-season, and no training, so his match fitness level will be in the toilet. Also of course, if we know the money is coming, we can crack on and buy the players we need at the same time as shifting a few out. Simples.
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I understand where you’re coming from, but this scenario is exactly what Kane and City have been working for. So no, I hope the Club holds firm. If Kane thinks the media will stay on side if he continues to remain on strike, he’s a bloody fool.
 

Romario

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