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Neon_Knight_

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How good are Ivory Coast? Does Harry stand a chance of beating Rooney's record tonight??!!
I'm not sure he has a good chance of playing tonight. Southgate is reportedly making 10 changes to the starting XI, compared to against Switzerland, with the front three expected to be Grealish / Watkins / Sterling
 
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Harry on the bench tonight. Doubt he'll get any game time.

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Frozen_Waffles

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I honestly can't see why Kane would go to United, they are a mess. No plan for years, signing big names with no structure or a decent manager. He will improve them, but not enough to even think about challenging for a title.

Also why would spurs sell to a direct top four rival? The money would have to be silly, which would make it a bit pointless for United to sign him.

An all round ridiculous discussion. City might be back, but if city didn't stump up the cash at the start of the season, why would they now?

Let's be brutally honest, when Kane signed his 6 year contract he made the same mistake as zaha.

With the Conte revolution, you could even argue that spurs could be his best (realistic) hope to win something (and continue breaking records).

While Conte stays and city don't pay stupid money, the conversation of him leaving seems a little pointless, as he won't.
 

1882andallthat

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Once again the scores of Man Utd loving journalists who are clearly bandwagon jumpers who climbed aboard the trophy gravy train as kids in the 90s who live hundreds of miles away from Manchester and Trafford Borough who are now in their 30s and posting a stream of biased articles that are based on their wants rather than independently verifiable facts, are claiming yet another insulting exchange and reduced cash where we might be interested in taking one of their rejects for Kane, this time Martial.

Pathetic pining on their part, why would we be interested in their cast offs in favour of our prized assets. They bored us with similar tales when writing about Alderweireld, and Modric, et al and that didn't work and now the try it with their constant drivel on Kane. Pathetic writing on their part that shows they haven't grown up and are still penning articles as though they're 9 year old's in red shirts with Sharp emblazoned on the front.
 
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Mr Pink

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Honestly I'd ignore it all.

Once in a generation player and Levy/Conte at the helm.

He's not going to United this summer.

It would be commercial suicide for us despite what they'd offer...forever small time etc.
 

mattstev2000

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I think some people are underselling Man Utd - they are clearly a considerably bigger club than us with vastly more success and a massive commercial reach.

It was only a few years ago people on here were describing Liverpool as a sideways move for our players and then they added a couple of key signings and won both the Premier League and the Champions League. To suggest Kane wouldn't be interested if Man Utd came calling seems a bit naive to me.

The more relevant question is whether Levy would cash in if they waved enough money in his face. His record of stopping our best players going to Man Utd isn't great but maybe things would be different with Conte and FP in charge.
 

spursfan77

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Honestly I'd ignore it all.

Once in a generation player and Levy/Conte at the helm.

He's not going to United this summer.

It would be commercial suicide for us despite what they'd offer...forever small time etc.

Agree. They have Neil Ashton working for them now and he's just out there spinning bollocks to ESPN and The Mirror. If you have a look, it is only there where the stories are conjured up and nobody else is picking up on them even in a quiet international week.
 

mightyspur

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when Kane signed his 6 year contract he made the same mistake as zaha
I guess in hindsight it is easy to think it was a mistake, but all it takes is a serious, potentially career ending injury for a player on a short contract to be screwed. That contract protected his future as much as Spurs
 

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I think some people are underselling Man Utd - they are clearly a considerably bigger club than us with vastly more success and a massive commercial reach.

It was only a few years ago people on here were describing Liverpool as a sideways move for our players and then they added a couple of key signings and won both the Premier League and the Champions League. To suggest Kane wouldn't be interested if Man Utd came calling seems a bit naive to me.

The more relevant question is whether Levy would cash in if they waved enough money in his face. His record of stopping our best players going to Man Utd isn't great but maybe things would be different with Conte and FP in charge.
I think this is a fair point and well argued. If you remove the personal bias, if you were a player and could choose Tottenham or Man Utd to sign for, objectively you would choose Utd. They are bigger, richer, more successful, greater media pull/fanbase etc.

Obviously there is nuance behind those undeniable facts which placed in the Kane context change things significantly.
  • No manager in place. If it is either ETH or Poch, they would realistically need 3 seasons to be challenging for the league/CL at a minimum. Even then dethroning City or Liverpool will be a very challenging task.
  • The cost. How much for Levy to sell Kane to Utd with 2 years left? £90/100m + addons? Their squad needs huge investment.
  • Tottenham loyalty. Lets not kid ourselves, Harry wanted to leave last year to join City. However it felt like he wanted to move to guarantee some trophies, taste the fruits of being an elite forward in an elite side. A move to Man U would not be that and whilst they clearly have an allure, would it be enough?
    • How do they sell the project to Kane, especially when a big chunk of their transfer budget would go on his fee/wages. If he was at Villa or Southampton, its a step up regardless but being a one man club and so close to JG's record, the opportunity any move away has to be significant. He wouldnt be joining a winning side as the crown jewel like the City transfer would have been. That is an inherent risk as a nearly 29 year old player
If City sign Haaland, Liverpool dont need him, we wouldnt sell to Chelsea or Arsenal (LOL) and I cant see a top continental side who has space for him that could afford him for the price Levy wants (Real -> Mbop) then Utd is really the only option. If I had to bet my mortgage on who wins an FA or League cup between us, logic suggests they are a better chance but is that enough of a temptation? Fa Cup or one club, all time leading scorer etc...? Maybe.... either way I'm not sure with all the above the equation stacks up for Kane or Utd!
 

Mr Pink

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I think some people are underselling Man Utd - they are clearly a considerably bigger club than us with vastly more success and a massive commercial reach.

It was only a few years ago people on here were describing Liverpool as a sideways move for our players and then they added a couple of key signings and won both the Premier League and the Champions League. To suggest Kane wouldn't be interested if Man Utd came calling seems a bit naive to me.

The more relevant question is whether Levy would cash in if they waved enough money in his face. His record of stopping our best players going to Man Utd isn't great but maybe things would be different with Conte and FP in charge.

No amount of money is going to be worth it really.

Might as well hold a sign up saying 'we'll stop pretending to be a big boy now' if we sell him when next season could be massive under Conte.

United are definitely a bigger Club but in the immediate context/future we look more attractive.

Couple that with the legendary status and records he can smash with us...and that achieving trophies with us will mean much more than at United.

If I were Kane I'd wait and see if Levy is going to deliver for Conte over the summer...by August if we're hearing the same old shit I'd then start pushing.
 

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Of course United want him. Both teams have to agree to the deal and if City couldn't get him last season United's chances aren't looking good. The problem for them is the days when they could take players from other English teams at will are gone.
 

GMI

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The appeal of a Utd move for Kane, or a justification, would be more complicated were they to not quality for the Champions League and more so if they finished below us. Therefore, as a horrific by-product, if we don't get 4th spot (whilst I think we will) is it preferable for Arsenal to get it ahead of Utd thus making them less appealing? :barefoot:
 

spurs mental

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I think some people are underselling Man Utd - they are clearly a considerably bigger club than us with vastly more success and a massive commercial reach.

It was only a few years ago people on here were describing Liverpool as a sideways move for our players and then they added a couple of key signings and won both the Premier League and the Champions League. To suggest Kane wouldn't be interested if Man Utd came calling seems a bit naive to me.

The more relevant question is whether Levy would cash in if they waved enough money in his face. His record of stopping our best players going to Man Utd isn't great but maybe things would be different with Conte and FP in charge.
From a commercial point of view they're the biggest or at least in top 3 in the world.

From a footballing point of view, they're as far from Liverpool and City as we are, regardless of who goes in.

If its trophies he wants, going there isn't going to make it any easier to win something.
 

Guntz

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United could easily offer him upwards of £500k+ per week.

I know they're not competitive for major trophies right now, but no-one is turning down that sort of money.

Plus if he wants to stay in the league, where else could he go if City gets Haaland?

I don't know why people are so dismissive about the possibility of him going there.
 
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