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Joshua

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I would say there’s not been a forward as compete in the Premier League but I think Benzema is/was incredibly well rounded. The slight difference between him and Kane though is that whilst Kane will drop and play balls in behind Benzema will drop and play combinations and use his dribbling ability in tight spaces. He’s the other #9 that I would class alongside Kane as being complete.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I would say there’s not been a forward as compete in the Premier League but I think Benzema is/was incredibly well rounded. The slight difference between him and Kane though is that whilst Kane will drop and play balls in behind Benzema will drop and play combinations and use his dribbling ability in tight spaces. He’s the other #9 that I would class alongside Kane as being complete.
I think stylistically that’s fair, but when you then compare the goal records on top Kane wins every time.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I think stylistically that’s fair, but when you then compare the goal records on top Kane wins every time.
Agree. Kane over Benzema every time.
Drogba and Rooney in ways are both similar to Kane. Drogba in the fact that he can help out defending at set pieces etc. Rooney in that Kane can drop back and pick passes, but he’s really a mix between Alan Shearer and Sheringham/Bergkamp. He’s some player let’s put it that way.
 

sage

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Most of you really need to take your Spurs-tinted glasses off and acknowledge that what Harry is doing (clearly intentionally) is really dangerous. There's a reason why this is same move is not allowed in other sports. It's so easy to snap your arm or worse this way. One of these days someone is going to land on their neck and you'll still be asking for a foul on Harry.
 

Trix

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Most of you really need to take your Spurs-tinted glasses off and acknowledge that what Harry is doing (clearly intentionally) is really dangerous. There's a reason why this is same move is not allowed in other sports. It's so easy to snap your arm or worse this way. One of these days someone is going to land on their neck and you'll still be asking for a foul on Harry.
What he's doing is standing his ground. It may well end up with an injury occurring but that's all coming from the opposition's momentum. It's not against any rules and wouldn't be in rugby etc. If he's dropping his shoulder etc I agree it should be given the other way. If however he's stood still or moving into position to be able to take the ball down without heading it he's well within his rights and the laws of the game.
 

Joshua

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I think stylistically that’s fair, but when you then compare the goal records on top Kane wins every time.
100% I believe Kane is the superior player. Just that if we’re talking about these forwards that can walk the line between #9 and #10 then I think Benz is the only other one that’s done it at an elite level.
 

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Most of you really need to take your Spurs-tinted glasses off and acknowledge that what Harry is doing (clearly intentionally) is really dangerous. There's a reason why this is same move is not allowed in other sports. It's so easy to snap your arm or worse this way. One of these days someone is going to land on their neck and you'll still be asking for a foul on Harry.
It’s not the same as other sports though. The parallel you are drawing is rugby union and the rule was changed to stop people tackling people in mid air and dumping them on the head. You can still challenge the man in air in Rugby but both of you have to be jumping for the ball.

what Kane is doing is backing up to a position where he can jump for the ball but the defender is also coming forward into him. If a defender is directly going up to head a ball away and Kane backs into him it’s a foul. If he is coming forward to the ball and Kane is backing up towards it so he can also challenge for it, it isn’t.

Also this is nothing to do with Spurs tinted glasses as strikers have been getting fouls like this for ages. For and against us, don’t act like Kane is the first person to do this
 

wrd

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It’s not the same as other sports though. The parallel you are drawing is rugby union and the rule was changed to stop people tackling people in mid air and dumping them on the head. You can still challenge the man in air in Rugby but both of you have to be jumping for the ball.

what Kane is doing is backing up to a position where he can jump for the ball but the defender is also coming forward into him. If a defender is directly going up to head a ball away and Kane backs into him it’s a foul. If he is coming forward to the ball and Kane is backing up towards it so he can also challenge for it, it isn’t.

I love that the main argument in all this is "well in this sport" we're not playing that sport ya ****s
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Most of you really need to take your Spurs-tinted glasses off and acknowledge that what Harry is doing (clearly intentionally) is really dangerous. There's a reason why this is same move is not allowed in other sports. It's so easy to snap your arm or worse this way. One of these days someone is going to land on their neck and you'll still be asking for a foul on Harry.
Yea agree the backing in when someone has already jumped means they bend whilst in air and land on their neck/back it is actually dangerous tbh and he should stop it.

Other than this he’s perfect
 

spursfan77

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Most of you really need to take your Spurs-tinted glasses off and acknowledge that what Harry is doing (clearly intentionally) is really dangerous. There's a reason why this is same move is not allowed in other sports. It's so easy to snap your arm or worse this way. One of these days someone is going to land on their neck and you'll still be asking for a foul on Harry.

I’ll admit that sometimes I don’t know who is fouling who in those cases and never have. Same when a striker stands there and a defender jumps up behind him and goes over the top. Sometimes the defender gets a free kick and sometimes the striker. It’s always seemed completely random to me Probably based on the official.
 

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I genuinely don’t know what Kane is supposed to do in the situations he’s accused of “nearly breaking people’s necks” in.

Even proper journalists are wading in saying it should be a “red card every time”. This doesn’t seem like an out of the ordinary incident to me - some twat has made a 12 second compilation video and it’s taken hold.

Now not sure whether Kane is being deliberate here or is simply standing his ground as he is completely entitled to do?
 

wrd

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I genuinely don’t know what Kane is supposed to do in the situations he’s accused of “nearly breaking people’s necks” in.

Even proper journalists are wading in saying it should be a “red card every time”. This doesn’t seem like an out of the ordinary incident to me - some twat has made a 12 second compilation video and it’s taken hold.

Now not sure whether Kane is being deliberate here or is simply standing his ground as he is completely entitled to do?

It's obviously cynical from Kane and I'd be fine with him avoiding these situations but let's be honest, he's on fire atm and usually when players are in this sort of form, people are looking for a stick to beat them with. Salah, Fernandes both experience it. He hasn't injured anybody and yet everybody is up in arms, to me it smacks off people wanting to justify their bitterness at how well he's playing. If he was playing shit we wouldn't be hearing about this in my opinion.
 

Timberwolf

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Well, I could've sworn he scored more, although most of my experience watching him was 2010-2012, which I assume was when he was more prolific aerially.
Yeah I do seem to recall there was a period of one or two seasons when Rooney went mental with headers and scored loads.
 

Insomnia

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Whilst I can understand the worry regarding heading the ball, unlike in Jeff Astle’s day, the ball isn’t sodden leather and weighing as much nowadays. In my days of playing we had the lace up as well. Bloody hurt when your forehead hit that on a muddy Sunday morning on Hackney or Tottenham marshes.
I played in those days at a decent semi pro level as a centre half, headed the ball a rediculous amount of times & it hasn’t affected moo
 

tobi

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Recently James Richardson compared him to Francesco Totti and I'm wondering why I didn't think of this myself.

Perfect comparison.
 

Angel Eyes

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I believe kane is doing nothing wrong, he's just placing himself between the ball and incoming player, if the player doesn't want to hurt himself he should simply keep his fucking feet on the ground and stop trying to jump for balls that he has no chance of reaching.
 

mil1lion

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We should also remove the goal posts just in case someone jumps into one of them and injures themselves
 

idontgetit

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What he's doing is standing his ground. It may well end up with an injury occurring but that's all coming from the opposition's momentum. It's not against any rules and wouldn't be in rugby etc. If he's dropping his shoulder etc I agree it should be given the other way. If however he's stood still or moving into position to be able to take the ball down without heading it he's well within his rights and the laws of the game.

With all due respect Trix, he's doing that sometimes but sometimes he's backing into a player jumping for the ball and it's obvious because he's moving towards the ball but has his eyes on the player. I want what's best for Spurs and Kane and what's best is avoiding getting a rep for that.

If he did it to someone like Lloris, Hojberg or Alderweireld in training Mou would not be fucking happy. Defenders are expected to compete aerially for the ball and taking their legs out is dangerous.
 
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