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septicsac

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With a new manager it is much easier for him to succeed if Kane stays, but the dilemma then changes to him walking for free to Utd or God forbid Chelsea next yr for free.
In an ideal world he stays, Ange works wonders, Levy backs Ange and we progress and get back to CL football and Kane signs a new contract.
However, in reality, its much more likely that Levy partially backs Ange at best, we come up short again, Kane sees loads of bright shiny clubs offering him all he can want and he inevitably leaves.
It's an awful predicament and only compounded further with the knowledge that it will be extremely difficult to replace HK if someone bids what is required. There is a lot to unfold over the next few weeks, will Bayern, a club used to getting their own way fork up the 100M required to convince Levy to sell, does Kane even want to leave and who the hell could possibly replace him?
 

THOWIG

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From the gazillion Ange tactical videos I've watched Sonny seems the best fit to play upfront. He won't stop making runs and has the energy to do what Ange asks.

Kane and Son seemed to play as a 2 towards the end of the season and thought it looked really good. Son in particular.
 

funkycoldmedina

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I’ve been around long enough to know this is the beginning of the end game. Up until now it’s been “don’t want to sell” and “won’t entertain bids.”

Now suddenly we are spending money decisively on other players and we start hearing this news. “If they offer what we want we will let him go.”

I was very optimistic about the new manager and the new direction of the club, but if we sell our best player it’ll just leave a cloud hanging over the rest of preseason and the pressure will then really be on the new manager.

This isn’t good news, and anyone thinking otherwise is kidding themselves. He’s irreplaceable.
But Postecoglou only wants players who are 100% committed to what he wants. I know Kane won't down tools or anything but by Xmas the noise about where he's going will be unbelievably distracting, everyone will be tapping him up.
 

Maxtremist

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I could list all the teams "below us" who've won FA Cups, League Cups, etc over the past 10 years as well but I focused on last season.
Since 2008, in terms of teams that are 'below us' to win a league cup or FA cup we have on the FA Cup side...

Leicester and Wigan.

And on the league cup side we have:

Birmingham and Swansea

So not really that many.

European cup wise obviously West Ham won the Conference League last year, and then naturally there's also Leicester Premier League win but that's still not really showing off that teams below us have been that successful.


(By Below us I'm basically saying outside the established Big 6)
 

Styopa

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I know Kane won't down tools or anything but by Xmas the noise about where he's going will be unbelievably distracting, everyone will be tapping him up.

Exactly this. Imagine we have stuff to play for come the end of the season, and all the noise is about whether Kane will or won't join Poch at Chelsea.
 

dontcallme

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I think we've now spent 80 mil on Porro, because when I was complaining about not backing Conte in January, enough folk were telling me we'd just spent 40 mil on porro. Now it appears we've just had to buy him again out of another windows budget.

If the Porro deal is now coming out of the Summer budget it means we spent nothing once again in January. You can't have it both ways.
It works both ways. Whenever we try to say how much we've spent people change the timing of the signing to suit their argument.
 

Dunc2610

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Two things we're not certain of, 1) we're not certain to lose Kane at the end of this season, and 2) Bayern might not even make an acceptable bid for him, so you're still back to losing him on a free IF he doesn't sign another contract.
 

Trix

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It works both ways. Whenever we try to say how much we've spent people change the timing of the signing to suit their argument.
It doesn't work both ways at all. We've only spent the money once. If he's signed now, we spent nothing in January and it's that simple. If the 40 mil comes off this summer's budget the budget in January was zero pounds. So when we were crying out for a CB we did nothing.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Jonathan David and Vlahovic were the two specifically mentioned by Ben Jacobs should Kane depart.
Ironically Vlahovic is currently being linked with a move to Chelsea with Davies his replacement at Juve. Would be amusing if that happened just before Kane left.
 

hughy

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Losing Kane is inevitable.

Losing Kane on a Free is a bad idea.

Losing Kane on a Free to a competitor is a horrible idea.
It's truly mental how many people can't see this.

I'll admit I don't get as emotionally attached to players as most do, but even I would hate to see him playing for another PL side.

Try and squeeze every penny we can get out of Bayern and be done with it.
 

wadewill

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The club obviously are pretty certain he won’t sign a new deal otherwise they wouldn’t entertain selling him now.


I really believe people will be pleasantly surprised that life after him isn’t that bad. We are not a team at the moment, we need to be

Be great if we could with him in it, but that really seems unlikely
 

0-Tibsy-0

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For those that think we should just sell and all will be rosy when it comes to playing without him, how much do you think we have to recoup this window to make it worthwhile selling him now over losing him on a free?

Hypothetically the highest bid from outside the PL turns out to only be £60mil -is that worth it?

I'm working on the assumption that he's not a big enough dickhead to go to another London club on a free next year...
 
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Albertbarich

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Isn't Ivan Toney out of contract next summer?

Banned and soon to be out of contract, we could get him on a good deal and get through until November in sure
 

dontcallme

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Two things we're not certain of, 1) we're not certain to lose Kane at the end of this season, and 2) Bayern might not even make an acceptable bid for him, so you're still back to losing him on a free IF he doesn't sign another contract.
This is why I think it's hard for us to make any call.

As far as I see it we are not willing to let Kane go for cheap, even with a year left on his contract. This means only a very large offer will persuade us.

If we keep him for the season then he'll have a host of clubs ready to pay him a truly ridiculous salary. So the only way he stays with us past this season is if somehow we do a complete turnaround and he believes we'll be at the top or he decides individual records are fine and he isn't that interested in a new challenge. Both are extremely unlikely.

So we can sell him now for the best we receive or keep him, knowing there's a high chance he goes for free.

Neither situation is ideal.

I think we should keep him for the season and hope for the best season we can get.
 

dontcallme

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It doesn't work both ways at all. We've only spent the money once. If he's signed now, we spent nothing in January and it's that simple. If the 40 mil comes off this summer's budget the budget in January was zero pounds. So when we were crying out for a CB we did nothing.
I meant in terms of our spending.

When discussing how much we've spent in a window, some will include deals already agreed with delayed payment, others won't.

Some will include the deal now to argue that our spend is high, others won't as they believe we don't spend enough.
 

funkycoldmedina

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It doesn't work both ways at all. We've only spent the money once. If he's signed now, we spent nothing in January and it's that simple. If the 40 mil comes off this summer's budget the budget in January was zero pounds. So when we were crying out for a CB we did nothing.
January wasn't the time to spend big on CB, the Conte boat had already sailed. I'm not sure why we bought Porro either. You'll know more than me but has Ange ok'd the full purchase or were we already tied in?
 

neogenisis

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I love him and I still think he will sign on again but if its different behind the scenes let him go and let us get on, we were always going to be Harry Kane-less one day anyway. Club is always bigger than a player.
 
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