Harry Kane

[jay2040]

A lot of us have really got Kane wrong if he is truly willing to go to PSG or Bayern

If it’s the case then he clearly is incredibly desperate to win something. Unless he wins the CL at either it’s really not going to mean much at either of those clubs, they are far from clubs that are going to elevate him on a personal level.

PSG would be downright weird. Basket case club. He’d be a half bad injury away from falling into obscurity over there

I don't think anyone has got anything wrong.

What's wrong with being ambitious!

 

[sundanceyid10]

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38016029/harry-kane-mind-made-join-bayern-munich-uli-hoeness

"Hoeness said Tottenham would not be able to turn down €80 or €90 million ($90 or $100 million) for the player, who just has a year left on his Tottenham contract..."

Forget the bravado about Levy being able to name his price for the moment, and consider whether this statement by Hoeness is true or not. Can Levy with a reputation of being overly financially "tight" (see frustrations in ITK thread) just relinquish €80 or €90 million (minus residual value of Kane's last year of the contract)? Kane isn't resigning with Spurs this summer; that would be wishful thinking. I think many would be arguing from both sides of their mouths by claiming that (1) Levy is tight and (2) Levy shouldn't let Kane walk unless Bayern meets his firm price.

Levy hasn't named his price because he has a luxury of time for now (i.e., the transfer window has weeks to run). He doesn't have to . . . yet, but the end of the window will inevitably approach and he will have to take a firm position on price at that time.

For now, all chaff and countermeasures.

I would much rather be in Kane's position than Levy's. Levy will be criticized either way this goes (i.e., sell or keep). Levy let things get to this point and that's how he's bungled it.

Consider the simple fact that Kane is as legitimately Spurs as any player in the history of Spurs, and that it is easy now to come up with reasons why Kane would want to leave. That's on Levy.

Again, I continue to expect Kane to be sold this window.

I’d rather be in Kanes position as its his decision not Levy’s or Bayerns or any other club and I mean it’s his decision this season. He can simply say no thanks’ to the move and see out his contract nothing Levy can do. Which in my opinion is exactly what he is going to do as in less than 12 months time he is going to have the pick of an awful lot of top clubs along with a massive signing fee.

 

[chas vs dave]

L'equipe are saying we've named our price at 116m euros.

 

[stormfly]

If Kane does leave you can guarantee we win a trophy next season. It’s just the kind of thing that happens at Spurs.

 

[chas vs dave]

If he did go, who would we look to replace him?

I think I'd like us to go for goncalo ramos.

 

[TheWook]

L'equipe are saying we've named our price at 116m euros.

more guesswork

 

[chas vs dave]

more guesswork

Yes, probably.

We should just name a price and set a fixed deadline.

 

[spursfan77]

Sorry but like @Joshua said, I’m accepting 60-70 mil plus Simons. If anything, I’d be pushing for that (even though I know the club won’t and I understand the value of Kane to the club). One of the best long term Son replacements out there, and probably the best realistic one. Can play upfront and in Ange’s advanced CM role too.

What Ange does with his strikers also doesn’t make me think losing Kane is a devastating blow. They’ve mostly been poachers/box movers with the focus on finishing off moves/cutbacks/crosses. Now I’m sure Ange would tweak things to maximize Kane’s playmaking, but (and it has been said by many) Richarlison is the prototype Ange striker. Elite presser, good poacher instincts, and a good finisher inside the box with both feet and aerially. Even if Richarlison doesn’t convince, you now have money to get Kolo Muani, Gonçalo Ramos, David, Vlahovic, Toney if you’re willing to wait.

Lastly, knowing Tottenham, we’d probably end up winning a trophy as soon as Kane leaves. No logic behind this being a reason to sell, but that’s how it’ll probably work knowing our luck. The empirical information is Simons is one of the best talents in Europe and in a position where we’re gonna have a need for a top player sooner rather than later. And I’d love as much as anyone else for Kane to win a trophy with us. If he’s willing to sign a new contract, then you obviously keep him. Who knows if DiMarzio is right and if PSG would offer this. I’m just not comfortable taking a risk in the last year of his contract if PSG actually offer significant money + Simons.

I can’t stop thinking the same thing. Completely irrational, but exactly the kind of thing that happens in football.

 

[arunspurs]

Can’t see PSG moves given they already agreed personal terms for Vlahovic yesterday

 

[Ghost Hardware]

He's played everywhere basically

Excellent prospect but I don’t see this happening at all. I think Simons will prefer to develop at Liepzig, Kane would prefer BM (even tho he probably would go to PSG), PSG will value Simons too highly within any trade and Levy will probably want the money.

Also whilst Simons is very versatile he’s best ether AM or LW, if we didn’t get Solomon I think it would have made sense but as it is I don’t see us going for him in any capacity.

 

[chelmyid]

Personally think this is now PR management.
firstly - I hope I’m wrong, however work with the head and not the heart.
Its plainly obvious levy works as a business, first and foremost. That much is not up for debate.
So - from a business decision I am convinced there is or has been a huge contract on offer (as I’m sure the club don’t want to lose kane) with the caveat that either he signs or we look to sell. I cannot see levy passes on the opportunity to bank £100m over losing him for nothing in 12 months. It would be totally opposite to his working MO.

on the assumption Kane isn’t committing (certainly not yet) levy is open to ‘discussions’ and achieving the value he feels is right.
From a PR point of view this is very very similar to Bale - starts with he’s not for sale, starts moving towards an acceptable price - next up will be potential replacements - that’s the next play. Then there will be a couple more signings - then I think he’s sold. Again - compare to when there was City talk - it’s a very very different narrative.

Secondly - let’s listen to Anges latest press when asked about Kane. EVERY answer goes back to - it’s about the collective and not the individual - he actually answers very well - but read between the lines and the answer is a little more poignant in my opinion.

we absolutely berate levy for running us like a business first and football second - then expect him to act from a football perspective with Kane over business - I don’t see it myself - I hope I’m wrong - but I think he’s gone this summer

 

[Richard Howlett]

If Kane does leave you can guarantee we win a trophy next season. It’s just the kind of thing that happens at Spurs.

It did with Teddy but in the same season he won the treble

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Sorry but like @Joshua said, I’m accepting 60-70 mil plus Simons. If anything, I’d be pushing for that (even though I know the club won’t and I understand the value of Kane to the club). One of the best long term Son replacements out there, and probably the best realistic one. Can play upfront and in Ange’s advanced CM role too.

What Ange does with his strikers also doesn’t make me think losing Kane is a devastating blow. They’ve mostly been poachers/box movers with the focus on finishing off moves/cutbacks/crosses. Now I’m sure Ange would tweak things to maximize Kane’s playmaking, but (and it has been said by many) Richarlison is the prototype Ange striker. Elite presser, good poacher instincts, and a good finisher inside the box with both feet and aerially. Even if Richarlison doesn’t convince, you now have money to get Kolo Muani, Gonçalo Ramos, David, Vlahovic, Toney if you’re willing to wait.

Yup. I don't think we'll be offered that, and I don't think it's that high up on Kane's wish list, but that would represent a good deal IMO

I think there's a lot more to come from Richi IF we play him as a 9. I think he'd do quite well actually.

 

[worcestersauce]

If he definitely isn't going to sign a new deal in the next 12 months then I hope we sell him this window.

Seeing him leave for nothing and potentially join Utd, Chelsea or Liverpool would feel 1000x worse than getting some money for him this window from a foreign team.

This is where I've been the whole time, I want him to sign a new contract but if he doesn't then sell him now not let him walk next year. He may not want to be sold of course, that's up to him but the one card we've got is a sale this summer.

 

[sundanceyid10]

It did with Teddy but in the same season he won the treble

That was the season after, he won nothing the year after he left. Hence the origin of the song.

 

[thePessimist]

This is where I've been the whole time, I want him to sign a new contract but if he doesn't then sell him now not let him walk next year. He may not want to be sold of course, that's up to him but the one card we've got is a sale this summer.

I don’t trust levy to spend 100m wisely anyway, and if the idea is to «replace» him this window with another striker I just can’t see how that’ll work out for us.

maybe, just maybe for once, the club can use this year to plan for how to replace Harry, so when he leaves next season we actually have a solid plan

 

[Scot-Spur]

I don’t trust levy to spend 100m wisely anyway, and if the idea is to «replace» him this window with another striker I just can’t see how that’ll work out for us

It’s more about improving as a collective as Ange said. We are never going to “replace” Kane.

We could however use the money to buy two very high potential players. Try and offset what Kane brought by spreading it around the team.

I personally think if he won’t commit this summer we should sell. I’d much rather reinvesting now.

 

[thePessimist]

It’s more about improving as a collective as Ange said. We are never going to “replace” Kane.

We could however use the money to buy two very high potential players. Try and offset what Kane brought by spreading it around the team.

I personally think if he won’t commit this summer we should sell. I’d much rather reinvesting now.

I can see both sides for sure, but i feel there should be money available for the types of signings we’ll be going for anyway (it’s not like we’ll go for 100m type of players!).

There’s def a value in having Kane for another season too, while transitioning to a new style under Ange

 

[heinsmit]

Simons has already pre-announced that he is making an announcement at 2pm CET today, his loan to Leipzig must already be completed, which I think throws a spanner in this particular works

 

[wadewill]

If Kane does leave you can guarantee we win a trophy next season. It’s just the kind of thing that happens at Spurs.

Honestly would love nothing more