Harry Kane

[KingNick]

The "would you rather he go to our rivals for nothing" doesn't really faze me: as we've seen with Poch, once someone's gone we can't dictate where he goes. There's absolutely nothing saying he goes to Bayern this summer, doesn't settle and Chelsea offer him an escape. He's here or he's not, basically.

I honestly don't believe there's anyway he goes to Chelsea at any point in the future. Even as our leading PL scorer he just wouldn't be welcome back as a a "Legend" at any point if he did that, which is something a lot of players even more recent ones like Defoe seem to really enjoy.

It would be pure S** C****** level and if things didn't work out at Chelsea he'd have ruined his legacy for nothing. If he went to United or Newcastle (or any team abroad) for nothing in a year, it would be bad but not legacy destroying.

 

[spursfan77]

Love how Ange is managing this so far.

They’re good comments to be fair. Watching the press conference clip on ssn this morning and on first watch I thought it was lip service and Kane was off but then watching the whole thing and I’m not sure about that at all. Sounds like him and Ange are singing from the same hymn sheet regarding the club. The manager definitely wasn’t giving off any hints.

 

[spursfan77]

Be interesting to hear who Ange makes as Captain. That will tell a lot where Kanes future is.

He was asked about it in the press conference and was non commit on who it would be. I thought strange but then realised he had the captain of South Korea sat next to him who probably has a great shout to be club captain too if you think about it.

 

[littlewilly]

This will not affect his decision but it should. How many players can end their career as a one club person? How many players can end their career as their own club's greatest scorer? How many players can end their career as the greatest scorer in their national team's history? How many players can end their career as the Premier League's greatest goal scorer? How many players get a stand named after them? How many players get a statue that's placed in the most prominent part of their home ground?

And he wants to go to Bayern friggin Munich. No chance.

 

[SixtyFour]

Just for the perverse amusement of seeing this site going into complete meltdown, i'm on the Eric Dier for Captain bandwagon.

Excellent shout. There is not enough popcorn on the planet....

 

[arunspurs]

This will not affect his decision but it should. How many players can end their career as a one club person? How many players can end their career as their own club's greatest scorer? How many players can end their career as the greatest scorer in their national team's history? How many players can end their career as the Premier League's greatest goal scorer? How many players get a stand named after them? How many players get a statue that's placed in the most prominent part of their home ground?

And he wants to go to Bayern friggin Munich. No chance.

It’s easy to say these points but it should hurt him more on not winning anything as a professional player.
That hurt could supersede others thing you say

End of the day it’s not about how we fans view it - it’s about him & him alone.

I think as fans, we should be ready mentally on whatever he decides

 

[littlewilly]

It’s easy to say these points but it should hurt him more on not winning anything as a professional player.
That hurt could supersede others thing you say

End of the day it’s not about how we fans view it - it’s about him & him alone.

I think as fans, we should be ready mentally on whatever he decides

but what do you mean by winning?

 

[PaulM]

but what do you mean by winning?

Football is a team sport. Individual awards and records are nice but players want trophies.

I don't buy into the "well you judge a player by the trophies he wins". For instance, John O'Shea, as good a player as he was, wasn't better than Ledley or Kane. But, how many great players went through their careers without winning a single trophy?

If I was Kane, I'd be off. We're in transition again. Next season would be another wasted year in his career if he stayed here as, at best, we'll challenge for top 4 but more likely sit between 5th and 8th. And he's 30 at the end of the month. He may not have a lot more seasons to waste.

As a Spurs fan, I want him to stay. Desperately. But, looking at it objectively, I'd be out of here if I was him.

 

[arunspurs]

but what do you mean by winning?

Winning a trophy , winning a title…
This is not being a nobody in squad and winning. Kane is a generational talent. Generational talents gets assessed by what trophies they won.

Evan Ferguson or Haaland could have incredible 8-10 years and blow Kane’s record. It can happen. Records are meant to be broken . But titles matter.

Bundesliga title for Bayern may not matter much but for Kane it will - at the very least he gets to be in podium lifting a trophy. If he helps them win CL , all the more better.

We can’t think in this from our perspective- his perspective matters. Given Bayern bold approach , it’s a given Kane is ready to move if things come together

 

[Styopa]

Football is a team sport. Individual awards and records are nice but players want trophies.

I don't buy into the "well you judge a player by the trophies he wins". For instance, John O'Shea, as good a player as he was, wasn't better than Ledley or Kane. But, how many great players went through their careers without winning a single trophy?

If I was Kane, I'd be off. We're in transition again. Next season would be another wasted year in his career if he stayed here as, at best, we'll challenge for top 4 but more likely sit between 5th and 8th. And he's 30 at the end of the month. He may not have a lot more seasons to waste.

As a Spurs fan, I want him to stay. Desperately. But, looking at it objectively, I'd be out of here if I was him.

Yeah, I think Kane will look at the likes of Ronaldo, Messi, Bale, Modric, and Giggs, see what they won in their careers, and envy that. It's not the be-all-end-all by any means, but being as driven as he is, a part of him must crave the experience of being in a team that blasts all opposition away. Part of him must desire the thrill of winning leagues and Champions Leagues.

 

[Timberwolf]

Football is a team sport. Individual awards and records are nice but players want trophies.

I don't buy into the "well you judge a player by the trophies he wins". For instance, John O'Shea, as good a player as he was, wasn't better than Ledley or Kane. But, how many great players went through their careers without winning a single trophy?

If I was Kane, I'd be off. We're in transition again. Next season would be another wasted year in his career if he stayed here as, at best, we'll challenge for top 4 but more likely sit between 5th and 8th. And he's 30 at the end of the month. He may not have a lot more seasons to waste.

As a Spurs fan, I want him to stay. Desperately. But, looking at it objectively, I'd be out of here if I was him.

Agree with the overall sentiment but this isn't as binary as Spurs vs Bayern.

The contractual element, the goals record, combined with the colossal signing-on fee he could make leaving on a free next summer and the wider range of clubs he could move to next summer... there are a complex range of factors he has to consider.

1 more season at Spurs wouldn't be a wasted year if next summer he gets a move to Madrid and also gets ~30 goals closer to the PL goals record.

Kane doesn't need to jump this summer to get the trophies he desires.

 

[PaulM]

Yeah, I think Kane will look at the likes of Ronaldo, Messi, Bale, Modric, and Giggs, see what they won in their careers, and envy that. It's not the be-all-end-all by any means, but being as driven as he is, a part of him must crave the experience of being in a team that blasts all opposition away. Part of him must desire the thrill of winning leagues and Champions Leagues.

The only player I can think of in my lifetime like Kane is Matt Le Tissier who was a magician. But Le Tiss is rarely remembered as an elite player. Because of his playing style, the fact he never won a trophy and stayed at Southampton and his limited impact at international level, he's usually remembered as a mercurial talent who could have done more.

Kane is a different beast on every level.

 

[CheeseGromit]

My only comment on wanting to win trophies is.. How many retired players legacy is judged by how many trophies they have won. I have not heard it said that Cryuff, Maradona, Greaves, Bale ( no significance in the names just random selection) have won x amount of medals They are talked about in terms of ability
The trophy element of the dialogue of the media and is to create a story

 

[PaulM]

My only comment on wanting to win trophies is.. How many retired players legacy is judged by how many trophies they have won. I have not heard it said that Cryuff, Maradona, Greaves, Bale ( no significance in the names just random selection) have won x amount of medals They are talked about in terms of ability
The trophy element of the dialogue of the media and is to create a story

That's a reasonable comment but how many players are recognised as all time greats and have never won a trophy?

 

[CheeseGromit]

That's a reasonable comment but how many players are recognised as all time greats and have never won a trophy?

Opportunity to be the first !
Medal count is a modern media phenomena

 

[Japhet]

Agree with the overall sentiment but this isn't as binary as Spurs vs Bayern.

The contractual element, the goals record, combined with the colossal signing-on fee he could make leaving on a free next summer and the wider range of clubs he could move to next summer... there are a complex range of factors he has to consider.

1 more season at Spurs wouldn't be a wasted year if next summer he gets a move to Madrid and also gets ~30 goals closer to the PL goals record.

Kane doesn't need to jump this summer to get the trophies he desires.

I only want Kane to stay if he signs a contract. I'm so utterly sick and tired of the constant, constant poking and prodding about him leaving. I'm all in favour of Ange being completely ruthless with anyone who isn't 100% committed.

 

[Dov67]

My only comment on wanting to win trophies is.. How many retired players legacy is judged by how many trophies they have won. I have not heard it said that Cryuff, Maradona, Greaves, Bale ( no significance in the names just random selection) have won x amount of medals They are talked about in terms of ability
The trophy element of the dialogue of the media and is to create a story

its not just about the legacy and how people will talk about him 20-30 years after retirement. He would, IMO be regarded as one of the greats even if he retired tomorrow.

But having seen far less talented players win more< i dont doubt that Kane will be aching to lift a trophy, to feel it in his hands, the exhilaration of the final whistle when its won, to do the lap of honour with the crowd singing his name, the parade, the winners medal etc etc. So as much as it will really hurt to see him wear another club jersey (especially an English club jersey), I’ve had to prepare myself mentally for just that.

 

[Styopa]

My only comment on wanting to win trophies is.. How many retired players legacy is judged by how many trophies they have won. I have not heard it said that Cryuff, Maradona, Greaves, Bale ( no significance in the names just random selection) have won x amount of medals They are talked about in terms of ability
The trophy element of the dialogue of the media and is to create a story

I don't think this is entirely true. When I think about Bale now, one of the things I think about is the Champions League trophies he won. I think about how he helped Madrid clinch the CL with that goal v Liverpool. When I think about Maradona, I think about how he helped Argentina win the world cup and the titles he won with Napoli.

 

[jurgen11]

they can put a statue up in Bayern Town square once he wins their 1097th title..I am beginning not to care what he does either way..cant control it , it will be what will be, perhaps a fresh start up front is required

 

[glacierSpurs]

IMO, I really think Madders arriving is significant in Kane staying for at least this season.