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Lea

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Personally fed up with the circus, let’s be honestly brutal about it Harry Kane isn’t bigger then the club we will be there long after he is gone, his silence is worse then the noises Bayern makes. If he had any respect his representatives should told Bayern to shut it. Bayern doesn’t pay big money for players they destabilise player and get them in the cheap. They big but not wealthy. Levy should have given them dead line.
 

knowlespurs

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I do wonder if psg will blow bayern out of the water with both the fee and wages, he doesn't appear to want to go there but their need is massive and they can afford afford pay stupid money
 

SDogg

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Not sure if this has been linked yet?

Personally I reckon it's going to happen. The fact we are meeting with Bayern again after news leaking that Harry won't sign a contract this summer, and that we will therefore need sell, tells me that this time they will offer a fee that we'll accept.

Hopefully the Muani news is correct and we can move for him quickly when the Kane deal goes through.

Where is the Muani news please?
 

Styopa

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I think people underestimate how big Bayern are. They're one of the biggest clubs in the world. A Bundesliga title is better than no titles and they have won the CL a couple of times in more recent years. He might also feel happy enough with personal records now being England and Spurs all time top scorer. It doesn't appear that the Shearer record is as important as we think. Maybe because it's still not the all time record scorer anyway just the premier league era. He clearly wants to experience winning titles and it's not exactly a bad league, just Bayern are dominant over there. Then again so are City these days.

Winning the title with City now is not much better than winning it with Bayern. They have won the Premier League five times in the last six seasons. They'll probably win it again this season. Supposing Kane goes there, he could be part of a team chasing their seventh or eighth title in their last eight or nine seasons. We can all have a laugh about Bayern dominating the poor little Bundesliga, but things aren't much better in the Premier League right now.
 

KingNick

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How much would Kane actually be worth a few years down the line anyway? I think it really depends on what sort of wages he'd be looking for. Once players on big wages get into their (mid-ish) thirties isn't it generally a case of fees being pretty small to offset the size of the contract the player wants? Aside from Juventus spending big on a 33-year old Ronaldo, I'm struggling to think of a player of that sort of age going for a large fee in recent years. (Happy to be corrected if anyone can think of other examples...)
Just another reason why a buy back clause won’t work.

This desperate idea reeks of Cullen / Levy trying to do something they think will appease the fans rather than because it is in any way meaningful or would ever be exercised.
 

St José Dominguez

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I just don't get why he'd want to go to Bayern. Sure they'll win the Bundesliga but doubt they'll win the CL and he will also probably lose out on Shearer's record unless he intends to play until he is 40 for smaller, relegation fodder teams after he is finished in Germany.

Nobody will remember him winning the Bundesliga a few times.

Even if he doesn’t break Shearers record he’ll be remembered. He’s going to be England top scorer for a long time once he’s done.
Maybe we’ve underestimated just how desperate he is to have a couple of winners medals even if it is an easy win with Bayern. They’re a massive football club too, it’s a pretty impressive achievement for him to play as their number 9.

On the CL though, put Kane in the Bayern team and it gives them a massive chance of winning a CL across the next 3 years. They’re very regularly in semi finals, along with City and Madrid they’d be favourites next season for me.
 

mil1lion

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I do wonder if psg will blow bayern out of the water with both the fee and wages, he doesn't appear to want to go there but their need is massive and they can afford afford pay stupid money
That's what we need for PSG to offer what we want. If Bayern can't match then he has to decide either stay or go to PSG.
 

whitechina

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This feels like the Bale summer all over again.
DL returning at the end of the week and reports of their CEO trying again on Friday.
Add to this reports that his wife has been checking out schools in Germany.
There just seems too much smoke for something not happening.
Then maybe we'll get the CBs etc al we need.
If HK goes and we get a few in who the manager wants ok (I'm coming around to the manager now) then so be it.
Time will tell
 

Metalhead

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He's so pissed off he named Kane as captain yesterday on the teamsheet and Son even said in his interview about him that he is our captian. Honestly dont believe anyone has any clue whats going on behind the scenes and its total guesswork. The fact no ITK have any idea just shows it's a total guess at this stage. My smart money is on someone offering something we cant refuse but the current activity on the tours suggests he is very happy to stay and give his all and nothing is remotely close.
He's got his pick of clubs next year. It certainly would be logical to surmise that he'd be content to wait out the remainder of his contract.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Muani’s reported fee is around €100 million, we’re not getting him in. If anything, he’ll probably end up at PSG once the Mbappe debacle is done.

Don’t do it to yourselves lads.

Most realistic outcome is we stick with Richy and sign Toney as the alternative.
 

rossdapep

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Yeah I don't get the "why would he go to Bayern?" comments.

He can win titles that he wouldnt really win here in the PL unless he joined City.

Have a genuine chance of winning the CL every season he is there.

Play with some of the best players in Europe

All while elevating his status and proving he is the worlds best CF and probably going into global superstar territory.

Lewandowski was never seen as anything but the best CF in football whilst at Bayern. Being in a supposed inferior league never harmed his status.

It was being able to consistently score in the CL and compete for the CL which earned that status.

Kane wont be able to do that at United, certainly not us.

Only Bayern, City, Madrid and Barca give him that opportunity.

Play for any of them and you can have it all.
 

bbunc

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Muani’s reported fee is around €100 million, we’re not getting him in. If anything, he’ll probably end up at PSG once the Mbappe debacle is done.

Don’t do it to yourselves lads.

Most realistic outcome is we stick with Richy and sign Toney as the alternative.
Agree. There or Man United.
 

Styopa

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Even if he doesn’t break Shearers record he’ll be remembered. He’s going to be England top scorer for a long time once he’s done.
Maybe we’ve underestimated just how desperate he is to have a couple of winners medals even if it is an easy win with Bayern. They’re a massive football club too, it’s a pretty impressive achievement for him to play as their number 9.

On the CL though, put Kane in the Bayern team and it gives them a massive chance of winning a CL across the next 3 years. They’re very regularly in semi finals, along with City and Madrid they’d be favourites next season for me.

I agree. Bayern won the Champions League as recently as 2020, so I'm not sure why so many people are confidently writing them off.

In fact, they have competed in six or seven Champions League finals or semi-finals during Kane's professional career and won two Champions Leagues. It's not like they have no pedigree in the competition in recent times.

And Tuchel himself also won the competition as recently as 2021.
 

Metalhead

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Yeah I don't get the "why would he go to Bayern?" comments.

He can win titles that he wouldnt really win here in the PL unless he joined City.

Have a genuine chance of winning the CL every season he is there.

Play with some of the best players in Europe

All while elevating his status and proving he is the worlds best CF and probably going into global superstar territory.

Lewandowski was never seen as anything but the best CF in football whilst at Bayern. Being in a supposed inferior league never harmed his status.

It was being able to consistently score in the CL and compete for the CL which earned that status.

Kane wont be able to do that at United, certainly not us.

Only Bayern, City, Madrid and Barca give him that opportunity.

Play for any of them and you can have it all.
I think that there's probably an element of people wanting to persuade themselves that any club that he's linked with won't be 'the club' because we'll all be sorry to lose him.
 

Timberwolf

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I agree. Bayern won the Champions League as recently as 2020, so I'm not sure why so many people are confidently writing them off.

In fact, they have competed in six or seven Champions League finals or semi-finals during Kane's professional career and won two Champions Leagues. It's not like they have no pedigree in the competition in recent times.

And Tuchel himself also won the competition as recently as 2021.
Also Kane would really suit their squad. He's probably a more natural fit for them than any of the other big teams given they have tons of quick wide forwards he could link with and create for.

The main reason I thought he wouldn't go there was the PL goal record but if he can win a bunch of trophies at Bayern and come back to the PL in, say, 4 years he still has a legit shot at beating that too if he had 3 decent seasons.
 

thelak

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Bayern paid roughly €30-40 million for Lewangoalski, they are probably looking at Kane in a similar light thinking that a deal worth just over double that is more than fair enough.

What they fail to realise is the one thing our chairman is exceptional at, is extracting water from a rock. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them having to cough up over £100 million with bonuses.
Not sure if this has been linked yet?

Personally I reckon it's going to happen. The fact we are meeting with Bayern again after news leaking that Harry won't sign a contract this summer, and that we will therefore need sell, tells me that this time they will offer a fee that we'll accept.

Hopefully the Muani news is correct and we can move for him quickly when the Kane deal goes through.

Move for him quickly

that made me laugh
 

Lou3000

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The only problem I have selling Harry is that unlike the Bale summer, the market has changed. One player doesn't buy you 7 anymore (2 were club record transfer fees!). Even at £100m, that would only cover Maddison and Tapsoba. Who is replacing Kane's goals? Are Son, Richy, Kulu, Manor, and maybe Gil sufficient attacking options?

Another issue is that Levy clearly hasn't learned any lessons. The Bale 7 were brought in too late to integrate into the team. Take the friendly against West Ham, the players with more time under Ange already looked better than those just returning.

How is this being handled so poorly?
 

RuskyM

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I do just think it's a bit sad; I get that players have always gone to the best teams but Bayern will win anyway. It reminds me a bit of Van Persie going to United - yes he won the title, but he burned his Arsenal bridges to become just another face at United. Same with Alexis Sanchez, actually, but that didn't even have the success he wanted. So unless he has a Modric/Bale-esque impact where he's a figure of their most successful period in years, I just don't see this going the way he ideally wants, given that legacy is clearly important to him. Plus, it's a huge change for a player who's 30 years old - how often has a player made their big move that far into their career?

Realistically, he'll win a few trophies that they'd win with or without him - I do sincerely hope it's worth it, and that The Age of Ange makes him a very successful warm-up act. If this sounds bitchy and like a coping mechanism, it's because it is.
 

Dazza86

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It really is.

If we have a true vision for kicking on and to be ambitious we're not feeding off crumbs in the hope that we can have kane back down the line.

That's embarrassing.

Let's get top whack for him now and move the fuck on by building a team that completely reflects the managers vision - fast, free flowing football.

I'm honestly excited by the prospect of reinvesting the money.

Kane is a legend and is a big loss but all things come to an end.

This is a new era, let's embrace it fully and go for it under the new manager.
If we have a clause to buy him back, you can just see Levy not investing properly into a striker replacement because he'd be expecting to shell out again in 2-3 years. Can almost guarantee it.

The entire problem, and why we've done a disservice to a once-in-a-generation academy player, is that we're not serious when it comes to recruitment. We shouldn't be losing Kane. It's a travesty this is even a question mark right now.

No faith this club could replace Harry, then we're straight back in for him in a couple years because we'll have under performing strikers who we attempted to replace him with.

Our footballing vision sucks.
 
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