Harry Kane

[Neon_Knight_]

I don't think "Kane successor" is really a fair way to look at what his role is and is potentially going forward. A Kane successor doesn't exist as there isn't another player available (or that is alive) that can slot in and perform the role he's been playing in. It'll be a different role up front now and the Kane role will be gone entirely (possibly even if Kane stayed).

Of course anyone comparing Kane and Richarlison won't be impressed, but it's a false equivalence to even be trying to.

By "successor" I simply mean our new no.9. I agree that no-one we could sign could perform the exact same role as Kane.

I actually think someone more in the mould of Firminho, who would maximise the goal output of the other attacking players (Maddison, Son & Kulu), could work really well. I can see Richarlison getting similar scoring stats to Firminho, but falling well short in terms of assists and link up play.
With Maddison added to the team, more of an out-and-out scorer who doesn't get too involved in the build-up play could also work well. I don't think Richarlison quite fits that role either though.

Realistically, Richarlison and Maddison could both have decent seasons by their standards and get no more goals & assists between them than Kane would have contributed alone. If Son & Kulusevski also have good seasons, perhaps our overall goal output can increase though, without signing anyone else to improve our starting XI.

 

[mil1lion]

I know everyone is saying we should sign a young player with massive potential to replace Kane and play backup to Richy.

But what young players with that potential are even available?

From a quick search, there isn't a whole lot that seem attainable/ready to step up.

I guess we have to just trust our new scouting team with this one.

Well that's just it, the scouting network need to find someone. I wouldn’t expect us fans to know who to bring in. Otherwise it would be pointless even having scouts if we just sign players everyone knows about. I wonder how the data lead approach might impact our search.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Problem is those young players with massive potential cost north of £50 mil nowadays anyway.

I don't disagree. Hopefully we have someone on the list that is achievable though. Even if they are 18/19 rather than 21/22.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

Yes we definitely need to sign someone if Kane leaves. Currently our front three and backups looks something like this

Son Solomon / Perisic
Kane Richy
Kulu Gil / Persic

Considering it's been reported Perisic has been told he will be allowed to leave as well then we'll be a player short if Kane leaves (we'll have 5 for potentially an area we need 6 players).

A high potential player that can cover all three positions would be my preference.

And homegrown

 

[alfie103]

All revenues go back into the club.

The problem is that we need 2 or 3 windows where we go above and beyond what we can do. Levy won't do that. Too risk adverse.

It might be go back into the club but it doesn't seem like much of it is spent on the club.

Exactly, Levy is too risk adverse to do anything that might impact ENIC's potential profits.

 

[RJR1949]

Problem is those young players with massive potential cost north of £50 mil nowadays anyway.

Jamie Donley is a player with massive, albeit as yet unproven, potential.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Yes we definitely need to sign someone if Kane leaves. Currently our front three and backups looks something like this

Son Solomon / Perisic
Kane Richy
Kulu Gil / Persic

Considering it's been reported Perisic has been told he will be allowed to leave as well then we'll be a player short if Kane leaves (we'll have 5 for potentially an area we need 6 players).

A high potential player than can cover all three positions would be my preference.

I'm looking at it more as us needing to 8 players for 4 positions, with the CAM (Maddison role) included in that. Lo Celso could play as the CAM, but I think we'll really need him in the no.8 role for large parts of this season, while Bentancur (injured) and then Sarr (AFCON) are unavailable.

I believe we'll also lose Son for something like 6 weeks, for the Asian Cup, at the same time as Sarr heads off for AFCON. We can't expect Lo Celso (or any other CM) to be available to provide cover for Son on the wing while we're also missing Sarr in CM.

Perhaps Ange will find an effective way to utilise Perisic this season, but I can't see him having enough pace for the system. Perhaps his deliveries will be useful against teams that sit deep against us (where pace to get in behind the defence is of less benefit).

 

[Inq]

People keep on bringing up the go kart track. What does it actually have to do with the footballing side of the club? Very little, except generating more money to invest.

I was just havin a giggle. Lighten up

 

[cliff jones]

One of the reasons Maddison came to us, was because we offered more wages than Newcastle.

and to play with Kane

 

[Trix]

We have spent more, since the opening of the stadium we are top 4 for net spend.

We just haven't spent well.

Granted, there is an issue about us looking for value over what we need.

I think we would have brought in a CB, even if kane stayed. Perhaps our stance has changed on kane since Ange has had time with the squad? No one really knows, apart from the people on the training ground.

People say back the manager, what if Ange is happy to let him go?

Then sell him! I have no problem with that if it's what Ange wants. Fact is though Ange wanted a CB in prior to the tour. Signing one shouldn't have been dependant on what happens to Kane regardless of the cost of said CB.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Problem is those young players with massive potential cost north of £50 mil nowadays anyway.

It looks like we'll have to rely on signings like Kulusevski and Solomon (neither of which seemed to be highly regarded by the big clubs) to come good. The problem with that approach is that we'll often have to "buy twice", which will prevent us from ever plugging all the weaknesses in our squad sufficiently enough to compete for major titles.

 

[lami]

Hopefully this transfer gets sorted out over the next few days. Focus on bringing in 3 CBs in with the cash.

Although a new CF would be good, I say let's give Richie a go, backed up by son and Scarlett (yes I know he's wet behind the ears) if we need to address the issue in January, then we cross that bridge when we come to it.

Like it or not, this is a transition season, new formation and new tactics/footballing style. No europe will no doubt help with the gelling of the tactics and getting used to Ange's style of football.

I'm looking forward to getting our spurs back and enjoying watching 6 - 4 games again

Team and tactics will be changing this season, maybe we as supporters should also change our fickle attitude towards everything spurs?

 

[SaKkA.kenchiku]

Some of us look at this with Rose tinted glasses. We are a rebuild right? I think we all agree on this? What rebuild takes one season? Zero! Actually Conte achieved amazing results and took us from mid table to top 4. Really was an incredible result. It was short and the club reverted to norm.

Kane knows its a rebuild, with Ange a relative, a relative unknown… yes I am optimistic about Ange, but it’s Ange. it’s not a big name, For Kane its not worth the risk. No one looks at it from being Kane, he needs about 50 goals for Shearer? Why wouldn’t he believe he can achieve this after 2 years in Bayern? Bayern behind Real Barcelona maybe United are a juggernaut in football. He will score loads, lifestyle is comfortable much more than Bale in Madrid. Can could sit one more year from us, we most likely end up in 6th after playing attractive modern football (relative success in my opinion considering). but still 6th maybe top 4 and a cup if we massively achieve (best ever finish in Prem era).

For me Kane achieves titles abd a chance at CL with Bayern, two years and he would still believe he would make the 50 goals in prem after that.

Now then look at Levy and his MO, its not guess work, its almost a certainty. He will not lose 100m , he knows unless so Amzing performance we wont convince Kane. He will follow his MO, he always has. Levy is Levy, he’s done well, but he wont gamble. He never has and never will. Fact. I have watched transfer windows very year For 15 years.. It’s the same, we might spend. We go big,, we don’t gamble. We take the minimum risk. We all know this and most importantly Kane knows this. Kane is off as Levy will fold to Bayern in the end.

I hope Ange can do a remarkable job, I’m Hopeful, he’s a Levy manager and he may achieve great things. But not this Year maybe 2/3 years later and its unlikely to be the league as we dont pay what it takes.

 

[Dave1882]

Hopefully this transfer gets sorted out over the next few days. Focus on bringing in 3 CBs in with the cash.

Although a new CF would be good, I say let's give Richie a go, backed up by son and Scarlett (yes I know he's wet behind the ears) if we need to address the issue in January, then we cross that bridge when we come to it.

Like it or not, this is a transition season, new formation and new tactics/footballing style. No europe will no doubt help with the gelling of the tactics and getting used to Ange's style of football.

I'm looking forward to getting our spurs back and enjoying watching 6 - 4 games again

Team and tactics will be changing this season, maybe we as supporters should also change our fickle attitude towards everything spurs?

I’ll see your 3 CBs and raise you 4, any less and we riot

 

[Locotoro]

Can’t understand this take for two reasons:

1. Kane has always said that he would be happy to stay here, as long as he felt the team were competitive. As others have said, it’s Levy’s fault that it’s come to this, not Kane’s.

2. The transfer will 100% be made up of add-ons based off of Bayern winning trophies, so would be a big financial knock to us if he was to win nothing.

Sorry, I just can't agree with your point 1.

Levy is the whipping boy and gets so much criticism for the shit he pulls...and rightly so. Ticket prices, super League, Furlough Scheme, manager contingencies, and to some degree the messing about with transfer negotiations. I say some degree because, again, this is more nuanced than blaming one person.

...But Kane and every other player is equally responsible for the failings at this club and what happens on the pitch. Levy wasn't on the field when we played out a limp UCL final, or particpated in that Premier League Challenge against Chelsea or Leciester. He wasn't involved in any of those FA cup or League Cup finals or Semi-finals but Kane was. Even those pathetic performances against Sheffield Utd and Dinamo Zagreb and other lower league sides - Kane was on the pitch for all of them (as Vice Captain).

When you win, everyone does their bit and makes the team work. When you lose, everyone is responsible - Kane included.

That being said, whilst Kane is here I will support here and revere him as Spurs greatest goalscorer. The moment he's out the door to another club I really couldnt give a rat's arse what he does. That is the extent of my loyalty

 

[ernest_lowrider]

Problem is those young players with massive potential cost north of £50 mil nowadays anyway.

It's either this or having a squad worse than City, Arsenal, United, Newcastle, United, Chelsea and Aston fucking Villa.
It's your call, Daniel.
COYS

 

[chas vs dave]

Then sell him! I have no problem with that if it's what Ange wants. Fact is though Ange wanted a CB in prior to the tour. Signing one shouldn't have been dependant on what happens to Kane regardless of the cost of said CB.

I get that, but he also wanted to take 31 players on tour. I don't know what was said prior.

I'm sure we would have preferred a CB in, however I'd prefer the right CB, than rushing to get one, just because its early.

 

[deanostheyido]

I love how everyone labels the Bundesliga shit and not a test for Kane, yet most of you are rock hard at the thought of VDV and Tapsoba at the heart of our defence

Clearly, VDV and Tapsoba leaving the bundesliga to join us makes the Bundesliga easier for strikers like Kane....

 

[mattspur1986]

Yeah meeting obviously happening today where I think it's likely they will strike a deal for Kane. As has been mentioned before, they like to finalise the deal in person so speaks volumes they're both flying across for the meeting today.

Richarlison has impressed Ange in pre season and he feels he can bag plenty of goals for him so I would say the likelihood is we bring both VdV & Tapsoba in followed by an exciting young talent who can play across the front three.

Why does it take selling our best player in donkeys years to fund the biggest hole in our squad though? We’re a big club! We shouldn’t have to sell our star player to make purchases! It’s dog shit!

 

[Nanky_1988]

And yet it seemingly looks like we still have to sell our best player to fund transfers. All these extra revenue streams don't seem to have made any difference to how we operate.

But haven’t a lot of the ITK’s been saying we have the money to spend though? Makes you wonder what lies Levy has been spouting about the stadium being a game changer yet it’s not changed anything