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Feb 19, 2009
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Just rewatched the end of the third again...referee was WAY too keen to continue that fight. Khan was all over the place!
 

The Watcher

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Fancy footwork and fast hands are all very well, but they don't compensate for insufficient power and a glass jaw.
I've got nothing against Khan, but fail to understand why he gets all this hype and how a top trainer like Roach rates him so highly.
Surely after that display that's him finished at the top level, must be. At least he managed to get enough of the spotlight to make himself a millionaire!
 
Feb 19, 2009
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Fancy footwork and fast hands are all very well, but they don't compensate for insufficient power and a glass jaw.
I've got nothing against Khan, but fail to understand why he gets all this hype and how a top trainer like Roach rates him so highly.
Surely after that display that's him finished at the top level, must be. At least he managed to get enough of the spotlight to make himself a millionaire!

Sadly his glass jaw will now always stop him from being considered anywhere near a top level fighter :(
 

The Watcher

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Sadly his glass jaw will now always stop him from being considered anywhere near a top level fighter :(

On that display it's probably better he doesn't get any more big fights... To be honest, as a Brit I wanted him to win but that was pretty embarrassing - completely gone after one shitty punch!
 

cockjol

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khan has flattered to deceive for too long now to be taken seriously any more...the guy just hasn't learnt a thing...and his jaw is pathetic...garcia wasn't that amazing in my opinion...he just swung wildly, knowing that one of his punches would land eventually...put him up against a clever fighter, who just picks him off, as khan should of done and he will get done
 
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You would have thought he would have learnt how to protect that fucking jaw of his by now, with the whole world knowing just how glassy it is! :mad:
 

cockjol

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and also that when you get hit you do whatever you can to hold on to your opponent, stay away from punches, make it scrappy, anything to get your senses back...not charge at him like a mad man leaving your chin an easy target...he still fights like a rookie...amazing he ever won a world title to be honest..great hand speed, but not a great boxing brain
 

Mullers

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That's the end of Khan now, yet another British sportsman who has flattered to deceive. As for Haye, I think he should fight wladimir klitschko again as he was comprehensively beaten by him last time, rather than calling out his brother, who is the better boxer.
 

VincenzoCoccotti

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Khan is another prince naseem, can land a shot but can't take one, his career as a serious contender is over, Mayweather would batter him senseless

He is best off retiring now tbh
 

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That's the end of Khan now, yet another British sportsman who has flattered to deceive. As for Haye, I think he should fight wladimir klitschko again as he was comprehensively beaten by him last time, rather than calling out his brother, who is the better boxer.

Haye was massively underrated after his defeat to Klitschko. Still think he has it in him as he has amazing power in those fists. The guy was amazing at cruiser and stepped up well. Everyone forgot what he was about in the broken toe, Chisora mess!
 

Mullers

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Haye was massively underrated after his defeat to Klitschko. Still think he has it in him as he has amazing power in those fists. The guy was amazing at cruiser and stepped up well. Everyone forgot what he was about in the broken toe, Chisora mess!
It's own fault he fought with a broken toe, he should have postponed the bout.
 

Gbspurs

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It's own fault he fought with a broken toe, he should have postponed the bout.

Yeah I agree. I like that he tried to fight through as I like fighters with a bit of heart but he was stupid there. He is one of the best British boxers at the moment (not saying much!!) with Froch obviously being the best.
 

Legend10

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Haye should go in with David Price next, he wins that which he wouldn't then he deserves another shot at Klitschko

Price is very young he doesn't need that risk just yet, he should take another 2 or 3 fights that are gradually easing him up to be ready, he has time to prepare for vladimir.

Haye probably does deserve a shot at Vitali because quite simply the division is so thin he's probably the best out there for that shot.
 

Legend10

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Khan, back to the drawing board!

Is too easy to draw in to fights that don't suit somebody who is chinny rather than boxing which is his great strength. One ot 2 posts on here saying it didn't seem much of a shot from Garcia but that's a bad place to get hit and although messy he looks very heavy handed.
 

VincenzoCoccotti

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Price is very young he doesn't need that risk just yet, he should take another 2 or 3 fights that are gradually easing him up to be ready, he has time to prepare for vladimir.

Haye probably does deserve a shot at Vitali because quite simply the division is so thin he's probably the best out there for that shot.

Price is 29 but yeah quite inexperienced in terms of sheer volume of fights but after what he did to McDermott I think he would do Haye, I hope the fight happens some day

Agree about the division itself, sad to see it so devoid of talent after the days of Foreman, Frazier, Ali, Shavers, Norton, Spinks, Holmes etc in the 70s era

No real decent beast of a heavyweight since Lewis
 

Legend10

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Price is 29 but yeah quite inexperienced in terms of sheer volume of fights but after what he did to McDermott I think he would do Haye, I hope the fight happens some day

Agree about the division itself, sad to see it so devoid of talent after the days of Foreman, Frazier, Ali, Shavers, Norton, Spinks, Holmes etc in the 70s era

No real decent beast of a heavyweight since Lewis


I think based on the 2 fights and how they went that Haye should get a shot at an ageing Vitali, would actually make Haye favourite for that as Vitali was pretty bad against Chisora who let's face it is pretty poor to day the least.

As for Price IMHO he should knock the crap out of Fury next, and then a Ruiz type of opponent before going for his shot.
 

SugarRay

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Haye's plan is to entice Vitali in to a fight then if he wins, which he stands a good chance of, Vitali is there for the taking, a rematch with Wlad will be massive.

Price has a long way to go. So far he has looked good but he has only been going forward. I have followed him for almost a decade now and seen him as an am a few times. If you chaps are concerned about Amir's chin then you might want to extend those worries to Pricey! Seen him 'timber' on a few occasions. He is made for Haye, not that a potential fight between them is being considered. I think Chisora will be the next Price opponent. Makes sense given Price has apparently signed with Warren.

As for Amir? It's a shame but I think his speed is to his detriment in a way. He has not really developed enough due to his speed being the ideal fall back option. He fights in straight lines and loves a tear up too much. He is far too easy to tag and when the chin is that much of an issue, well, it's always going to come down to that eventually. Shame because he has balls and heart.
Trainers are made by the fighter by and large. Roach being in your corner don't mean all that much. Freddie's success is down to Pacman as opposed to the other way round. He has always struck me as a yes man.

Khan can come back, he is still young but a change of trainer might be a good idea. Ultimately though he doesn't hit hard enough to keep certain fighters off him for 12 rounds. Danny Garcia is no superstar, he isn't even the best in the division.
 

SugarRay

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Haye should go in with David Price next, he wins that which he wouldn't then he deserves another shot at Klitschko

Price is probably number 3 in Britain right now and probably not even top 15 in Europe. He has enormous potential and I think he will certainly be great to watch over the coming years but he is no more than a prospect right now. He has only faced domestic class fighters. Beating him wont earn anyone a deserved shot.

Haye has done enough to warrant a shot at Vitali considering the joke opposition that big brother has faced of late ( his next fight is against Manuel Charr who is diabolical )

I think Vitali wants the Haye fight too. Can see it happening, possibly over here.
 
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