- Feb 21, 2006
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Very interesting mate and thanks for taking the time to do that.I find a lot of stuff wrong with this post, firstly its something that is abit of fun and I understand that but your decision making isn't consistent imo
So for example you say that Chadli deserve a high rating due to the amount of goals he got but then with the striker you have Rooney above Kane. Rooney hasn't got 20 goals in 3 seasons and has only got 20 goals or more twice in his career. He is good striker imo, then you have Costa second who got the same amount of goals as Kane and has only been a top striker for 3 seasons. Then Giroud who has been one of the best strikers last season for goals per mins ratio
Then there is Walcott, a guy who has achieved nothing in over a year and even then he hasn't been consistent enough.
Anyway here is my version since I am bored
Top6 1st XI Comparison:
GK:
Courtious 1
De Gea 1
Lloris 1
Hart 2
Cech 3
Mignolet 4
I actually think Courtois is overrated by players aren't noticing his flaws and taking advantage
RB:
Ivanovic 1
Zabaleta 2
Clyne 3
Bellerin 4
Tripper 4
Darmian 4 * unknown in PL
The bottom 3 have to prove they are ready, ballerin perhaps slightly edges it
CB pairings:
Terry & Cahill 1
Kompany & Demichelis 2
Mertsrsacker & Koscielney 2
Vertongthen & Alderwield 3
Rojo & Smalling 4
Skrtel & Sakho 5
I think Man City and Arsenal have flaws but the others are worse. Ours is very high considering the amount of goals we shipped however Rojo and Smalling don't look comfortable and De Gea saved their arses a lot. Also I think our players suffer because of the system and for example arsenal are better than Kompany and co. because of the way they defend and not necessarily because of the players. I actually think Terry and Cahill are only the best because of Mourinho, cahill was horrific at times last season.
LB:
Rose 1
Azpiliqueta 1
Monreal 2
Clichy 3
Shaw 4
Moreno 4
Moreno isn't a bad LB and out of all of the positions I there really isn't much between and this is the closest group of players.
DM1:
Schniederlin 1
Matic 1
Bentaleb 2
Fernandinho 2
Lucas 3
Coquelin 4
Now Bentaleb should be on this list but we don't have a DM. Lucas been demoted a place for injury issues
CM2:
Fabregas 1
Henderson 2
Schweinsteiger 3
Ramsey 3
Fernandinho 4
Mason 5
Ramsey would have been top the season before but had a poor year last season. Schweinsteiger is low because it is unknown if he can handle the PL after a poor season in the bundesliga. Mason is last but that doesn't mean he is very bad, the rest are really good.
LWF:
Hazard 1
Sanchez 2
Sterling 3
Depay 3
Firmino 3
Chadli 3
I actually think I being too kind on Sterling but he is PL proven. Depay and Firmino are unproven in the PL whilst Sterling is better than Chadli but then he doesn't get enough assists or goals. I actually think it should be Chadli last as the rest have a lot more potential but then that would be unfair to a player who has got 16 goals and assists in the PL
CAM:
Toure 1
Eriksen 2
Mata 2
Coutinho 3
Oscar 3
Ozil 4
The best AM is probably Fabregas but he is counted as a CM.
RWF:
Silva 1
Milner 2
Di Maria 3
Willian 4
Walcott 4
Lamela 4
Harsh on Willian who works hard for the team but he needs to do more as he hasn't
ST:
Ageuro 1
Costa 2
Rooney 2
Sturridge 2
Kane 2
Giroud 2
Rooney and kane have the most to prove(as one hasn't been a striker for a while and the other needs to do it on their second season, whilst the other 3 are on par with the other 2 because of their injury record)
Overall ratings: (lowest is best)
Back 5:
1st CHELSEA 4
2nd Man.City 7
3rd Arsenal 11
4th Tottenham 9 +4 for corporation tax(for lack of organisation)
4th Man.U 13
6th Liverpool 16
Midfield:
1st Chelsea 10
2nd Man.City 11
3rd Man.U 12
4th Liverpool 13
5th Arsenal 17 (they are better than his but inexperience of Coquelin and inconsistency of Walcott and Ozil hurts them)
6th Tottenham 16 + 2 for night tax (for overworking ourselves and looking tired)
OVERALL 1st XI with taxes:
1st: Chelsea 16
2nd: Man.City 19
3rd: Man Yoo 27
4th Arsenal 30
5th: Liverpool 31
6th: Tottenham 27 + 6 in taxes = 33
If we can sort out our tax issues on our day, we can compete with Liverpool and Arsenal and expose their failings but over a season with their better squads and issues paying tax Liverpool and Arsenal are better(liverpool have 10 strikers and Arsenal have better midfield options)
Agree with some of this and I see your point about consistencey but the ratings are a combination of recent form and overall ability and likelihood to perform.
You mention Walcott, he basically won Arsenal the FA cup and on his day is outstanding he's just been injured. Arsenals midfield is their strongest part, I Know they're our biggest rivals but I really think you've under-rated it.
Agree on the 'taxes' thing this is where it all becomes subjective as other factors are involved rather than just individual player ability.
As for strikers would you really say going into next season you'd rather have Kane than Rooney leading our line? Sorry but after one good season it's a risk to say that and right now Rooney is a better more proven bet and Id swap them in a heartbeat.