How much longer?

[dagraham]

Sometimes it takes someone on the outside with little knowledge and interest to drive the point home.

The missus came home and asked how we got on.

Me : “we lost”
Missus: “oh dear.... you don’t seem that bothered”
Me : “getting used to losing.... it’s happening rather a lot these days”
Missus : “where are you in the league now?”
Me : “don’t know actually, but below West Ham”
Missus :”fuck me, really? You that bad now?”

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Honestly us football fans are the worst in the world, no one compares to us

We think we deserve everything including loyalty but we never ever show the same things back. How do you expect players and managers to stay loyal when the club and fanbase aren’t? We are so incredibly fickle, so moany, so negative about everything

We don’t deserve anything if we’re being truthful

I hear fans say all the time that the least they want is a player to show passion and commitment but even if they do that and have a poor game they will still be slaughtered by the fanbase. We are pathetic. We think we’re geniuses who knows more than the manager

Pathetic. If we one day achieve success with Poch I hope all of you don’t celebrate it because you don’t deserve to

The sport wouldn’t have existed without fans. It can exist without tv cameras, expensive cars, fancy dinners out and training camps in Spain. It can exist without Kane, Messi and even without the demigod Pochettino. But never could it have exited in the professional form without fans.

 

[scat1620]

Agree - but must say, seems a lot of match going fans still in support of him.

And there's still many, many people out there who just want to get to a Spurs game because it's habit/they enjoy the beers and time spent with mates etc who will keep going no matter whether the club are charging them a king's ransom to do it and no matter whether the football is great, terrible or indifferent. Personally, I wish it wasn't like that and that ENIC got hit in the pocket during periods of mismanagement (on the pitch or off it) like we're seeing now, but sadly football is too much of an addiction for clubs like ours to be put under real financial pressure to deliver a product in line with our prices.

 

[scat1620]

Honestly us football fans are the worst in the world, no one compares to us

We think we deserve everything including loyalty but we never ever show the same things back. How do you expect players and managers to stay loyal when the club and fanbase aren’t? We are so incredibly fickle, so moany, so negative about everything

We don’t deserve anything if we’re being truthful

I hear fans say all the time that the least they want is a player to show passion and commitment but even if they do that and have a poor game they will still be slaughtered by the fanbase. We are pathetic. We think we’re geniuses who knows more than the manager

Pathetic. If we one day achieve success with Poch I hope all of you don’t celebrate it because you don’t deserve to

Worst post I've read on SC since I've been here. And I've seen Matzdorf fly off the handle at an innocuous @THFCSPURS19 joke.

 

[Mate]

I honestly feel sometimes there is a section of the forum composed of opposition fans who fan the flames on here. Or am I just paranoid.
I am also not that positive at the moment and was laughing a the the team selection today so I guess I am no better. We need some solid performances to get everyone one side again.

On the contrary, I feel that there's a section of the forum employed by the club, whose job is to convince us that not everything is as bad as it seems

 

[jondy1]

I don’t blame Poch
I blame levy
He should have sacked El clueless a month ago

 

[SpursD22]

Worst post I've read on SC since I've been here. And I've seen Matzdorf fly off the handle at an incongruous @THFCSPURS19 joke.

Maybe you can’t accept the truth. That we’re very fickle

 

[Mr Pink]

Honestly us football fans are the worst in the world, no one compares to us

We think we deserve everything including loyalty but we never ever show the same things back. How do you expect players and managers to stay loyal when the club and fanbase aren’t? We are so incredibly fickle, so moany, so negative about everything

We don’t deserve anything if we’re being truthful

I hear fans say all the time that the least they want is a player to show passion and commitment but even if they do that and have a poor game they will still be slaughtered by the fanbase. We are pathetic. We think we’re geniuses who knows more than the manager

Pathetic. If we one day achieve success with Poch I hope all of you don’t celebrate it because you don’t deserve to

Who rattled your cage you little berk

 

[SpursSince1980]

On the contrary, I feel that there's a section of the forum employed by the club, whose job is to convince us that not everything is as bad as it seems

Do they make matching gloves to go with your tinfoil hat?

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Maybe you can’t accept the truth. That we’re very fickle

You’re right.

Bollocks, you’re not.

No, definitely not.

Although, come to think of it...

 

[SpursSince1980]

Who rattled your cage you little berk

Berk. Great word. Underused. Like, pillock.

 

[yiddopaul]

Honestly us football fans are the worst in the world, no one compares to us

We think we deserve everything including loyalty but we never ever show the same things back. How do you expect players and managers to stay loyal when the club and fanbase aren’t? We are so incredibly fickle, so moany, so negative about everything

We don’t deserve anything if we’re being truthful

I hear fans say all the time that the least they want is a player to show passion and commitment but even if they do that and have a poor game they will still be slaughtered by the fanbase. We are pathetic. We think we’re geniuses who knows more than the manager

Pathetic. If we one day achieve success with Poch I hope all of you don’t celebrate it because you don’t deserve to

Tottenham fans are - IMO - some of the most loyal fans around. It's easy to be loyal when you're winning titles. We've been served up bile for more than 30 odd years (give or take a few mini periods of good football). We still sing, sell out stadiums, always hope. There's nothing wrong in being critical when we're not just playing poorly, but making the same mistakes week in week out and not learning from them. It's taken a long time for fans to get to this point. We are the ones that will be left to pick up the pieces, so to speak, when Poch and the players bugger off. In truth, Tottenham fans are the club, we pay their wages from our hard earned cash. We have a right to be angry sometimes.

 

[SpursD22]

Tottenham fans are - IMO - some of the most loyal fans around. It's easy to be loyal when you're winning titles. We've been served up bile for more than 30 odd years (give or take a few mini periods of good football). We still sing, sell out stadiums, always hope. There's nothing wrong in being critical when we're not just playing poorly, but making the same mistakes week in week out and not learning from them. It's taken a long time for fans to get to this point. We are the ones that will be left to pick up the pieces, so to speak, when Poch and the players bugger off. In truth, Tottenham fans are the club, we pay their wages from our hard earned cash. We have a right to be angry sometimes.

You know what when you put it like that you have a point. The ones who goes to games and the ones who supported us before Poch usually are very loyal. I agree with that

But the new fans oh my god are they frustrating. And also some other as well

And there’s nothing wrong with being angry sometimes but there’s a line of being angry and just being very fickle and moan about things for not much reason. Sometimes there’s people in here that moans about things just so they can moan

 

[Hazelton]

Out of interest, what's the fan reaction to the team sheets like in the stadium? Do the likes of Eriksen, Alderweireld, Rose etc still get cheered or is it more frustration?

 

[ohh Teddy Teddy]

Nathan Gardiner is still with us, think Hercules is referring to Alex Savva.

 

[double0]

Hope youre right mate todays the first time ive started to lose faith after the team selection and then the post match comments on NDombele

I've been called all sorts for voicing my opinion some might think i'm a fool for supporting the manager. Poch has been right in saying the truth he said a rebuild will be painful ,the thing i'd question him on is why he hasn't been more ruthless with certain players.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Worst post I've read on SC since I've been here. And I've seen Matzdorf fly off the handle at an innocuous @THFCSPURS19 joke.

Would that be this one?

Ratings vs Sunderland

Dembele- like Moses in a sea of strife

www.spurscommunity.co.uk

 

[scat1620]

Would that be this one?

Ratings vs Sunderland

Dembele- like Moses in a sea of strife

www.spurscommunity.co.uk

The Dislike you got from DM was bad enough, but then his doubling down and going all rant-y after that rating was just legendarily po-faced boob-ishness.

 

[Ronwol196061]

Levy is a conservative businessman. I think he has been very fair with Poch. I also think Poch overachieved.Ok so he didnt win anything he did take the club and raised the bar.He got us fit.We were a feared defence that's something I never remember having.He brought a system.
Levy built. He did hire Poch and he did hire the stadium.He just isnt really a footie man.
Poch hasn't evolved (and if Levy evolved it was purely commercially)
Southampton fans complained of his late changes and his iffy buys. They also talked of his success in developing his idea even if it was limited.It only went so far.Fitness levels were positive,sticking to the plan of the system positive. Man manager skills good.
The one thing he lacks is the ability to adjust to create.To trust players to create. To create you have to think outside the box.Im afraid Poch thinks inside the box.
Pochs system is more Kasparov than Fischer. More technical than creative. So when Poch has a problem he thinks it's the system that's not being played perfect enough and is not thinking of other ideas.
That's how it seems.
So to me its limited.
After the CL O think Poch must have questioned himself.He must have seen Klopp do better than he did in a more attacking way and Poch seemed to want to go that way.
But it seems his security blanket is his system.Just like Mourinho who also pulled back Chelsea in his last stint there.
Having Ndombele and Lo Celso and Moura on the bench gave him more defence with Winks,Sissoko,and Eriksen safely or not with his dinky little passes. It wasn't so safe.
Poch had no faith in trying to change it.
His system is all.
It's a problem

 

[austinfh]

Out of interest, what's the fan reaction to the team sheets like in the stadium? Do the likes of Eriksen, Alderweireld, Rose etc still get cheered or is it more frustration?

Of course they get cheered, cause we're not Arsenal, and the players on the pitch will always get our support on a matchday, as does the manager at the games, more often than not