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How would you feel if Harry came back?

riggi

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Embarrassed, I would feel embarrassed.

Edit: not embarrassed about having him as manager but just the whole debacle of sacking him and then getting him back years later. Harry had gooners enjoying watching us, epic times and times that won't be repeated anytime soon.
 
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jambreck

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How much did he spend at QPR?
We're are they now?
Great times with him at the helm.
But come on most manager with VDV Modric Bale and inform Lennon in midfield would have done well.

Not to mention Ledley.
 

IamCelestial

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Without a doubt, we had fantastic times under his tenure. However, I really didn't like how he behaved with the media (much like I didn't like it when Sherwood was managing). I also didn't feel that he was improving as a manager at the end - more like stagnating.

These "coming back" stories rarely have a happy ending (e.g. Defoe, Chimbomba, Keane). I don't think it'd be a good idea. We have to look forward. I hope that Pochettino will perform better next season and that we can keep another manager for more than 3 seasons in a row.
 

shelfboy68

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Embarrassed, I would feel embarrassed.

Edit: not embarrassed about having him as manager but just the whole debacle of sacking him and then getting him back years later. Harry had gooners enjoying watching us, epic times and times that won't be repeated anytime soon.

I know all parties must have their own versions but looking back this was a bad decision that has left us looking stupid and clueless.
 

allatsea

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This is exactly my feelings, no point pinning for previous managers., shame the England debacle tainted his time with us and I doubt he would return as manager anyway, DoF more likely.

I also think all those making fun of Harry in this thread have very short memories

DoF ? Utter madness. Levy would have to lock up the petty cash and any silverware.
 

jambreck

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I know all parties must have their own versions but looking back this was a bad decision that has left us looking stupid and clueless.

Harry's behaviour at the time made it almost inevitable that he would be sacked.

He has no one but himself to blame.

Besides which, as others have pointed out, we would still have lost Ledley, Modric and Bale and would have slipped backwards regardless. Let's not pretend that, with lesser players, Harry has a consistent record of producing teams that are anything like as entertaining as his Spurs team was. In fact, quite the opposite. Watching his Pompey team was like watching the proverbial paint dry and watching his QPR team was like watching a bunch of headless chickens.

He did a great job with the fantastic core of players that he inherited. I'm thankful for it. But, long term, he would not have been good for our club. Let's remember him for the fun that he gave us but let's not pretend that he is anything other than he is or that Levy didn't have myriad justifications for getting rid.
 

parklane1

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Gutted, if it was not for Levy he would have left us in the same money trouble as Southampton, Portsmouth and now QPR.
 

eddiebailey

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Calibre of players had something to do with that

Was 4th the best return we could have expected ?

It was a good squad, but it was also full of strong minded individuals who had their own views on the game, fragile egos and limitations that needed to be worked around . Does anyone seriously think a manager as tactically myopic and heavy handed AVB or Pochettino would have got as much out of them? We would have most likely finished fifth or lower and been complaining that the players weren't got enough
 

Hoops

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Harry's behaviour at the time made it almost inevitable that he would be sacked.

He has no one but himself to blame.

Besides which, as others have pointed out, we would still have lost Ledley, Modric and Bale and would have slipped backwards regardless. Let's not pretend that, with lesser players, Harry has a consistent record of producing teams that are anything like as entertaining as his Spurs team was. In fact, quite the opposite. Watching his Pompey team was like watching the proverbial paint dry and watching his QPR team was like watching a bunch of headless chickens.

He did a great job with the fantastic core of players that he inherited. I'm thankful for it. But, long term, he would not have been good for our club. Let's remember him for the fun that he gave us but let's not pretend that he is anything other than he is or that Levy didn't have myriad justifications for getting rid.

He had a threadbare squad to begin with. Jamie Ohara? remember him?

Yes, we had a couple of diamonds, but HR brought in a lot of good players too. There is no way HR would have ended up with the team AVB had. Harry doesn't get the best out of players. He just has a good eye for a player, and when he has a full team of good players they play well for him.
 

ethanedwards

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It was a good squad, but it was also full of strong minded individuals who had their own views on the game, fragile egos and limitations that needed to be worked around . Does anyone seriously think a manager as tactically myopic and heavy handed AVB or Pochettino would have got as much out of them? We would have most likely finished fifth or lower and been complaining that the players weren't got enough
Spot on Eddie.
Our current team is arguably better than the one that beat AC Milan.
 

slartibartfast

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My God.
Some peoples heads are so far up their arses its beyond belief.
Fkin stagnated??? We finished 4th when he left.
We didn't get CL for the 1st and probably last time in history because of Chelsea. Not Harry, fkin Chelsea.
Should have done better?
Anyone who inherited that squad would have done it or even better??
He would have dragged us down.... probably???Wtf is that based on? Because we only got 4th and didn't win yhe fkin thing?We really have some of the most idiotic fans, using the term loosely, going.
With this kind of appreciation for what Redknapp achieved we deserve to be knee deep in shit now.

He was sacked because Levy threw his toys out the pram.
The phrase is, cutting your nose off to spite your face.
And its come back and bit us in the arse big time.
But as long as Poch gives nice soft spoken interviews hey who cares.
Fks sake.
 

shelfboy68

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Harry's behaviour at the time made it almost inevitable that he would be sacked.

He has no one but himself to blame.

Besides which, as others have pointed out, we would still have lost Ledley, Modric and Bale and would have slipped backwards regardless. Let's not pretend that, with lesser players, Harry has a consistent record of producing teams that are anything like as entertaining as his Spurs team was. In fact, quite the opposite. Watching his Pompey team was like watching the proverbial paint dry and watching his QPR team was like watching a bunch of headless chickens.

He did a great job with the fantastic core of players that he inherited. I'm thankful for it. But, long term, he would not have been good for our club. Let's remember him for the fun that he gave us but let's not pretend that he is anything other than he is or that Levy didn't have myriad justifications for getting rid.

I understand where your coming from and from both sides we may never get to the truth, but still we look as poor as we have done for a long time.
Since harry left we are now onto our second manager in a few short years and i cant help thinking that both have not been the right appointments.
 

Black

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Nah it's like taking back a girlfriend who was flirting with another guy while holding you hand.
 

ultimateloner

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I don't think he will be better than what we have.
This is not a dig at him.
I genuinely don't think there is much a new manager can do given the way we are set up.
 

jambreck

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He had a threadbare squad to begin with. Jamie Ohara? remember him?

Yes, we had a couple of diamonds, but HR brought in a lot of good players too. There is no way HR would have ended up with the team AVB had. Harry doesn't get the best out of players. He just has a good eye for a player, and when he has a full team of good players they play well for him.

Threadbare? A "couple of diamonds"?

Arf!

All of the most important players of the Redknapp era were already at the club by the time he arrived. Van Der Vaart might argue with that. But Redknapp can't even take credit for his signing - other than for saying "thank you, yes" when Levy effectively delivered him as a fait accompli.

Of course players like Defoe, Crouch, Kranjcar, Palacios and, latterly, Parker played their part. And they certainly gave more balance to the squad. But the players who really elevated us to Champions League quality - the difference makers - weren't Redknapp signings.

None of which is to dismiss Harry's achievement while at the club. Nor, to return to the original point of this thread, is it meant to be in any way ungrateful. It's simply to say that Harry, too, would have struggled to keep Spurs in the top four without King, Modric, Bale and VDV.
 
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