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DC_Boy

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well said TCO

webb has the stregth to change his mind as he could and should have done

man yoo do their pieces - get the red card their fouling deserved and who's to say what happened

the pen changed the game

we'll never know what would would have happened had webb given the right call

all we know is at that stage we're 2-0 up and comfortable despite being restriccted in our tackling as webby is looking to red card one of us
 
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DC_Boy said:
well said TCO

webb has the stregth to change his mind as he could and should have done

man yoo do their pieces - get the red card their fouling deserved and who's to say what happened

the pen changed the game

we'll never know what would would have happened had webb given the right call

all we know is at that stage we're 2-0 up and comfortable despite being restriccted in our tackling as webby is looking to red card one of us
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Strange that if he is such a closet red that he didn't send Palacios off which would have been completely justifiable . That would have sewn up the game for them after just 15 minutes. So why didn't he ?
 
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it's true he could have sent WP off - but as WP made no contact - a yellow would have been sufficient

as to why he didn't red or yellow card WP - I can't answer that

what I do know is that it was no pen - and what I'm 99.999999999% certain of is the second after he blew - he knew he got it wrong - so he had the chance to change the call by consulting the lino and chose not to do so
 
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DC_Boy said:
it's true he could have sent WP off - but as WP made no contact - a yellow would have been sufficient

as to why he didn't red or yellow card WP - I can't answer that

what I do know is that it was no pen - and what I'm 99.999999999% certain of is the second after he blew - he knew he got it wrong - so he had the chance to change the call by consulting the lino and chose not to do so
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Still doesn't answer why if he so much wanted United to win he didn't show WP the red. Nobody could have argued about it. Couldn't just be that he made a mistake over that just like he did over the pen ? Or perhaps he set the whole thing up so that he would only help his beloved reds if they got into trouble ?
 
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dannythomas said:
Still doesn't answer why if he so much wanted United to win he didn't show WP the red. Nobody could have argued about it. Couldn't just be that he made a mistake over that just like he did over the pen ? Or perhaps he set the whole thing up so that he would only help his beloved reds if they got into trouble ?
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I've no idea whether Webb is a closet red or not - what I'm saying is that he was horribly biased against us on the day

not just the pen - the bookings we took compared to the stuff utd got away with

how many more times is ronaldo gonna kick someone scot-free

how many more times do we have to see scholes kicking away carte blance - till he finally gets la cart jaune - way too late

of course red would be preferable but this scholes at go OTT OT

the problem HR identified about the 'play on' for their second

the way the officials spotted the ball was just over the line

I've even read berbs may have been in an offside position for one of the goals - (can't comment on that)
 
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webb screwed us big time - not just the pen - but a whole host of other homer decisions

I'm not saying he's corrupt

I am saying there's institutional corruption against us when we play man u - the litany of injustice against us over the years is long and shameful
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This is exactly how I felt watching it from the stands.
 
ziggy

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Suppose if Fergie says about his players getting the rough end of the stick often enough and loud enough, sooner or later a ref's going to have it in the back of his mind when it comes to giving decisions against them i.e last Saturday.

All mind games from the master of them.
 
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Mixing it up on a United forum giving it lemon just makes us look bitter though. We can piss and whinge about it all we want amongst our own kind.
 
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Kendall said:
Mixing it up on a United forum giving it lemon just makes us look bitter though. We can piss and whinge about it all we want amongst our own kind.
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We need to move on . If people on here think that there is a huge conspiracy against everyone that plays at OT ( or us in particular ) that is fine. As far as I am concerned we got a bad penalty ( though my no means the softest one I have seen ) against us . We also got a couple of soft yellow cards ( though not the red that would have really screwed us ) and they got away with a couple of bad tackles.
At the end of it all we got hammered in the second half and our response to our adversity was pathetic. Let's hope we can get back on track with a big win against the Baggies.
 
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I've no doubt at all there is a ''conspiracy' against us at OT and playing Man U in general

it's not some mystery 'conspiracy' - it's blatant intimidation/cheating/mind games (how I hate that last phrase BTW) over the years by various managers and players of the above club - it used to involve the crowd shouting tooetc - now it's the crowd that is the 'face' of the mighty brand 'Man U'

I can name you any amount of disgraceful decisions that utd have got us over the years

the last saturday was a particularly shamful episode

here's some more recently

O'shea on a yellow - clobbers modric at wembley - stone cold yellow

gets away with it

swings the game utd's way bi time

the fouling that scholes did against us in the 4-1 at the Lane - doesn't get sent off - then ronaldo dives gets a pen

the mendes incident

the pen calls we get turned down in the 1-0 defeat a couple of years back

there are others too

I honestly don't know why Spurs fans bother going up to OT - apparently according to a thread I read elsewhere (on glory glory i think) they get treated badly, the chances are on a fair playing field we'll lose anyway as they're better than us, but show a realistic chance of winning, then the officials step in - what's the point?

trust me - as long as I draw breath, I'll never let it go - it does me no good I'm sure - but when human beings don't feel bad about injustice what's the point in general

I won't let go about benfica in 62 or barcelona in 82 either BTW :)
 
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i know he is basically being relegated for the wkend but to give him a potentially 60m match is quite shocking! i feel sorry for brum and reading, harsh on the 2 of them! lets face it the decision to give away the penalty is not season defining but in a game of the magnitude of the brum v reading game could potentially be season defining and potentially career as well with the likes of coppell etc
 
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Still feeling bitter about Saturday, almost to the point where I want The Scum to beat them tomorrow.
 
Bus-Conductor

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I've had a few days to reflect on the decision, the pressure cooker atmosphere that was OT on Saturday, the head of steam that ManU were building and have decided that Webb is still a king size **** of the highest magnitude.
 
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