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If the Spurs players were a Poker hand

fishhhandaricecake

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Just a bit of fun for anyone who’s a Poker lover, I was chatting to a mate about Sonny being the ‘ace in our pack’ with the world class goals he scores and it got me thinking how would you compare our players to receiving a poker hand in Texas Hold em...

My ratings:

Hugo = QQ : Pretty bloody good hand you’d like to bet on but not quite the very best

Aurier = A2 : The ace part is amazing but the 2 can get you stuck
Toby = KK : Such a solid reliable strong hand
Dier = K10 : Pretty solid hand you’d not complain much with but could be a tiny bit better
Reggy = AJ : One of the best strongest reliable hands

PEH = AA : If you have PEH you just win!
Sissoko = Q10 : Pretty solid hand

Sonny = AK : Very very strong, you’d usually be onto a winner most times
lol celso = KJ : Sexy cool hand
Bergy = Q10 : Solid hand

Kane = AQ : One of the strongest hands , has the occasional day off but more often than not produces.

others:
Jose : KK has to be pair of Kings for Jose as he just gets the job done, he’s never quite the outright favourite(Aces) but not far behind, King of the pile and will scare off anyone with Aces with bluffing and mind games ?

Davies : 77 pair of 7’s for solid reliable Ben. You usually decide to bet but often wish you hadn’t or had a stronger hand ?

Feel free to add any others for a laugh.
 

Ionman34

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Just a bit of fun for anyone who’s a Poker lover, I was chatting to a mate about Sonny being the ‘ace in our pack’ with the world class goals he scores and it got me thinking how would you compare our players to receiving a poker hand in Texas Hold em...

My ratings:

Hugo = QQ : Pretty bloody good hand you’d like to bet on but not quite the very best

Aurier = A2 : The ace part is amazing but the 2 can get you stuck
Toby = KK : Such a solid reliable strong hand
Dier = K10 : Pretty solid hand you’d not complain much with but could be a tiny bit better
Reggy = AJ : One of the best strongest reliable hands

PEH = AA : If you have PEH you just win!
Sissoko = Q10 : Pretty solid hand

Sonny = AK : Very very strong, you’d usually be onto a winner most times
lol celso = KJ : Sexy cool hand
Bergy = Q10 : Solid hand

Kane = AQ : One of the strongest hands , has the occasional day off but more often than not produces.

others:
Jose : KK has to be pair of Kings for Jose as he just gets the job done, he’s never quite the outright favourite(Aces) but not far behind, King of the pile and will scare off anyone with Aces with bluffing and mind games ?

Davies : 77 pair of 7’s for solid reliable Ben. You usually decide to bet but often wish you hadn’t or had a stronger hand ?

Feel free to add any others for a laugh.
I'd have Kane as QJ suited, imo the best starting hand in Poker.
High face cards, suited for a high flush, connected for the straight both up and down.

Versatile, strong, contributes all over the place.

Definitely not AQ. Like Doyle Brunson, I detest AQ.
 

Mr Pink

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A pair is a slightly stronger hand than two over cards lol...

A pair of fives, for example, slightly ahead of even AK..(52% to 48% pre flop)

Q10, QJ, all that shite are folders all day long in tourney poker ?

AA - Kane
KK - Sonny
QQ - PEH
JJ - Toby
10s - Hugo
 

Chris Finch

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Spurs in general are a gutshot straight draw.
You think you have it in the bag, you’ve shoved all in...bam! 7 on the river, you’ve lost
 

Ionman34

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A pair is a slightly stronger hand than two over cards lol...

A pair of fives, for example, slightly ahead of even AK..(52% to 48% pre flop)

Q10, QJ, all that shite are folders all day long in tourney poker ?

AA - Kane
KK - Sonny
QQ - PEH
JJ - Toby
10s - Hugo
Not a chance. A pair might be a marginally better hand pre flop, but suited connectors are called Ace crackers for a reason.

Any decent poker player will play SC’s to a raise, your options are better post flop.

End of the day, you only have a pair, which mean you only have 2 outs after the flop if you don’t hit a set.
 

Mr Pink

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Not a chance. A pair might be a marginally better hand pre flop, but suited connectors are called Ace crackers for a reason.

Any decent poker player will play SC’s to a raise, your options are better post flop.

End of the day, you only have a pair, which mean you only have 2 outs after the flop if you don’t hit a set.

No that's not necessarily right at all. The point is a pair is a made hand, but with suited connectors you have to hit - the pair doesn't have to the vast majority of the time.

If you played out a hundred hands, the pair would win more than suited connectors. They may look pretty but if you had QJ suited and called a raise to someone who had AQ, you're at a big disadvantage. You could still hit and win, or outplay etc but over the long run you're losing more calling raises with those hands. Mixing it up and raising with those hands here and there ok, but dependent on table conditions/level of tournament etc.

And if it was a high pair like say KK...you'd be miles ahead of say AK suited.
 

Sevens

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Just a bit of fun for anyone who’s a Poker lover, I was chatting to a mate about Sonny being the ‘ace in our pack’ with the world class goals he scores and it got me thinking how would you compare our players to receiving a poker hand in Texas Hold em...

My ratings:

Hugo = QQ : Pretty bloody good hand you’d like to bet on but not quite the very best

Aurier = A2 : The ace part is amazing but the 2 can get you stuck
Toby = KK : Such a solid reliable strong hand
Dier = K10 : Pretty solid hand you’d not complain much with but could be a tiny bit better
Reggy = AJ : One of the best strongest reliable hands

PEH = AA : If you have PEH you just win!
Sissoko = Q10 : Pretty solid hand

Sonny = AK : Very very strong, you’d usually be onto a winner most times
lol celso = KJ : Sexy cool hand
Bergy = Q10 : Solid hand

Kane = AQ : One of the strongest hands , has the occasional day off but more often than not produces.

others:
Jose : KK has to be pair of Kings for Jose as he just gets the job done, he’s never quite the outright favourite(Aces) but not far behind, King of the pile and will scare off anyone with Aces with bluffing and mind games ?

Davies : 77 pair of 7’s for solid reliable Ben. You usually decide to bet but often wish you hadn’t or had a stronger hand ?

Feel free to add any others for a laugh.

Fuck, I'm Davies!
 

Ionman34

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No that's not necessarily right at all. The point is a pair is a made hand, but with suited connectors you have to hit - the pair doesn't have to the vast majority of the time.

If you played out a hundred hands, the pair would win more than suited connectors. They may look pretty but if you had QJ suited and called a raise to someone who had AQ, you're at a big disadvantage. You could still hit and win, or outplay etc but over the long run you're losing more calling raises with those hands. Mixing it up and raising with those hands here and there ok, but dependent on table conditions/level of tournament etc.

And if it was a high pair like say KK...you'd be miles ahead of say AK suited.
Bro, I’d love to spitball with you over NLH Poker, it’s been my passion since I had to quit sports. I’ve played in major tournaments in both UK, Malta and Oz, as well as spending far, far too much time in Casino cash games over the years, but that’s not what this thread is for so I’ll leave it at that.

Mind you, let me know when your next home game is, I’ll take great pleasure in lining my pockets with your money...

And I’ll show you the QJ suited I win with too ?
 

Sevens

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No that's not necessarily right at all. The point is a pair is a made hand, but with suited connectors you have to hit - the pair doesn't have to the vast majority of the time.

If you played out a hundred hands, the pair would win more than suited connectors. They may look pretty but if you had QJ suited and called a raise to someone who had AQ, you're at a big disadvantage. You could still hit and win, or outplay etc but over the long run you're losing more calling raises with those hands. Mixing it up and raising with those hands here and there ok, but dependent on table conditions/level of tournament etc.

And if it was a high pair like say KK...you'd be miles ahead of say AK suited.

Depends on the pair. In Hold Em you may have the best hand but if the flop is all overs and you're OOP then you are in a very tricky position. Also pairs aren't always favourite if they're involved in a multiway pot. Position in Poker is as important as the cards you hold. So as Davies I am doubley fucked (sorry Ben, only kidding!).

AKs isn't miles ahead of KK either. You'd expect AKs to win just under 1 out of every 3.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I'd have Kane as QJ suited, imo the best starting hand in Poker.
High face cards, suited for a high flush, connected for the straight both up and down.

Versatile, strong, contributes all over the place.

Definitely not AQ. Like Doyle Brunson, I detest AQ.
Love this and I completely forgot to add in if suited or not, my bad. Yea love AQ suited hell of a hand.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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A pair is a slightly stronger hand than two over cards lol...

A pair of fives, for example, slightly ahead of even AK..(52% to 48% pre flop)

Q10, QJ, all that shite are folders all day long in tourney poker ?

AA - Kane
KK - Sonny
QQ - PEH
JJ - Toby
10s - Hugo
Many ways to play Poker mate, statistically you’re spot on about the Pair vs two high over cards but at the same time when you get an AK you’d get more excited than a pair of 55’s which whilst effective isn’t a very sexy hand.
 

Mr Pink

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Depends on the pair. In Hold Em you may have the best hand but if the flop is all overs and you're OOP then you are in a very tricky position. Also pairs aren't always favourite if they're involved in a multiway pot. Position in Poker is as important as the cards you hold. So as Davies I am doubley fucked (sorry Ben, only kidding!).

AKs isn't miles ahead of KK either. You'd expect AKs to win just under 1 out of every 3.

I said KK is miles ahead of AK pre flop, not the other way round mate

I'm not talking about the context of position or anything like that, but starting hands pre flop.

Pairs are slight favourites over two over cards. Of course anything can happen in a hand poker with lots of variables in play.

But was just taking about the stats with the starting hands.
 

Sevens

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I said KK is miles ahead of AK pre flop, not the other way round mate

I'm not talking about the context of position or anything like that, but starting hands pre flop.

Pairs are slight favourites over two over cards. Of course anything can happen in a hand poker with lots of variables in play.

But was just taking about the stats with the starting hands.

The AK vs KK hand I am also talking Preflop. That overcard is worth around 30%.

As Doyle (I think!) said, AA and KK will win you small pots and lose you big ones......
 

Mr Pink

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Many ways to play Poker mate, statistically you’re spot on about the Pair vs two high over cards but at the same time when you get an AK you’d get more excited than a pair of 55’s which whilst effective isn’t a very sexy hand.

Mate, I'm talking statistically. Of course there's a huge amount you could analyse in terms of the different approaches.

I was just simply stating that suited connectors, like QJ, isn't statistically considered a really big starting hand.

Anyway I'm done lol.
 

Mr Pink

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The AK vs KK hand I am also talking Preflop. That overcard is worth around 30%.

As Doyle (I think!) said, AA and KK will win you small pots and lose you big ones......

Exactly, youd take the 70% preflop all day long mate!

Arsenal's starting hand..7 2 lol
 

Sevens

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Many ways to play Poker mate, statistically you’re spot on about the Pair vs two high over cards but at the same time when you get an AK you’d get more excited than a pair of 55’s which whilst effective isn’t a very sexy hand.

Preflop, EP I raise with AKs and will call a 3 bet with it. With 55 I will probably fold, unless the table has proven to be super passive and predictable, but I almost definitely fold to a 3 bet unless others have called the 3 bet and then I might set mine.
 

Ionman34

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Let’s not derail the thread chaps, betting and gambling is the place to discuss the various merits of starting hands etc
 
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