Is Harry Kane too greedy?

[Lemon]

You guys (Borks and KAISERwells) are both splitting bile, have you checked your PH? #Acidicmofos.

 

[Hazelton]

The one against aresenal is the short answer.

The longer answer will require some trawling...

Oh no, I only mean the really ridiculous angles. When he's closer to the byline than to the edge of the box. The one against Arsenal is definitely alright to shoot from haha, as he proved.

 

[Gbspurs]

Oh no, I only mean the really ridiculous angles. When he's closer to the byline than to the edge of the box. The one against Arsenal is definitely alright to shoot from haha, as he proved.............unless he missed and then everyone would have battered him for not passing

Fixed your post.

 

[Hazelton]

Fixed your post.

Hahah, in fairness I wouldn't have battered him for shooting/missing from there!

 

[Riandor]

I wouldn't change it.
I think its something Kane will change himself over time and with experience, when he is more confident in his role within the team.
Henry, Ronaldo, Bergkamp, etc... All players who started as greedy and turned into complete packages.

Let Harry be a striker and somewhat greedy, as long as he is scoring and working hard its fine. The rest will come naturally.

If it becomes detrimental to the team for other reasons (not scoring, not working hard, etc...) then he gets subbed (well, when we have someone to sub him for).

 

[chris_theo]

Remember back in the playground days where regardless of where you were, you just want to shoot and score and be the hero? Kane has a bit of that about him and I love it. I don't mind him missing a few and I genuinely don't get (too) pissed off when he shoots from the corner flag, he is what I love about the game and I'd take him over Giroud, Walcott, Welbeck, Costa, Vardy, Rooney, Lukaku ANY DAY!

Fuck it.....I'd take him over Aguero too!

 

[adamsky]

No player makes the right choice every time, even the ronaldo's and messi's of this world, however, hopefully with experience he will make the right choice more often than not. That is the sign of a really top player.

 

[dontcallme]

I remember in the Arsenal game he shot at least twice from ridiculous distances or angles when a pass was on and it pissed me off.

Just as he went to shoot in the second half I screamed at the TV not to and then he scored one of the best goals of the season.

Decision making can always improve and no player should stop trying to better themselves. But if he is scoring really regularly enough to be the top scorer in the league and our team joint top scorers in the league then his decision making probably isn't too bad.

But to the OP, don't hold back from making reasoned posts even if it is asking for some improvement. Some posters will jump on any negativity and blow it out of proportion and kill any debate. Best to not let them and post what you want.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Talk about wanting your cake and eating it. If he carries on scoring at this rate he can be as 'greedy' as he likes.

16 goals in 20 games and the team is suffering as a result.

Back when i've got my head around that. I might be gone quite some time.

Thought Harry's total was 19 in 30 games, and 18 in the last 21 with five penalties?

Anyway, he's no more or less greedy than any other top striker at the moment. Could he perhaps have made a couple of more assists this season then then answer has to be yes, but Allen, Crooks, Archibald, Klinsmann, Chivers, Greaves, Gilzean, Lineker, Defoe, Keane and Berbatov were all greedy fuckers but they all scored shit loads of goals.

A list of unselfish strikers can be found here:

http://www.footballconference.co.uk/?Goalscorers

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Every player can improve

Is that you Mr Rebrov?

 

[Donki]

I really do wonder about people sometimes, Harry is direct thats why he has been so lethal for us, he picks up the ball he turns he heads for goal with the only though in is head is to score. If you start asking him to constantly look for a pass to a better player every time he misses you are going to take away from his game, he is young, still relatively raw (only his second full season) he will mature and will see more. Right now, IMO we would be crazy to be looking to change him, let him evolve. Has been said before that both Bale and Ronny were selfish when younger, done them no harm.

 

[dontcallme]

I really do wonder about people sometimes, Harry is direct thats why he has been so lethal for us, he picks up the ball he turns he heads for goal with the only though in is head is to score. If you start asking him to constantly look for a pass to a better player every time he misses you are going to take away from his game, he is young, still relatively raw (only his second full season) he will mature and will see more. Right now, IMO we would be crazy to be looking to change him, let him evolve. Has been said before that both Bale and Ronny were selfish when younger, done them no harm.

Why wonder? People can ask questions and look for even the best player to improve.

No one has denied he can;t improve and no one has been particularly critical of Kane but there's nothing wrong in suggesting he can look up a bit more.

 

[UpTownSpur]

No, Kane is not too greedy, he does what Poch tells him to do, shoot whenever he gets a sniff of a goal. Poch tells him to do this because he's one of the best strikers of a ball in the Premier League - right foot, left foot - he can despatch a shot into the bottom corner with an unerring accuracy not seen since Shearer.

And also you have to factor in that, Kane aside, we don't have that many great finishers, and probably someone you'd pick out in that category is Lamela, who seems to have a real problem getting a good contact on a crossed ball, and even when he does, he struggles to keep them on target - I could think of half a dozen examples off the top of my head. I think the "Kane too greedy" myth actually started against Newcastle this season, when Kane was alleged to have shot from an acute angle instead of passing to Lamela, when in fact replays showed he'd tried to square it back to him but the keeper blocked it, and if he'd have shot at goal he may well have scored.

 

[Mr Pink]

If Kane wants to be one of the best in the world he will have to learn when to take the shot on and when to pass. He's doing incredibly well but if he wants to be among the elite, its that last part of his game he needs to work on.

All this nonsense people spout about being ungrateful for pointing this out, its fucking bollox to be honest.

Messi, Rooney, Suarez, Neymar, Aguero to name a few, know when to pass the ball. They all take the shot on when its more often the correct choice but when that moment is clear its better to pass they invariably do it.

Aguero recently put one on a plate for Silva to walk in, can't remember who it was against but I remember thinking to myself Harry shoots there. Its about making the higher percentage choice for the team, and the thing is it won't take away from his individual goal tally really, but it will increase the team one - and that's the pertinent point.

He's still young and developing but if I were Poch I'd be trying to develop this without taking away from his natural strengths etc. He does have a fantastic strike on him and I believe he could be one of the best in the world if he got his head up and passed it when the situation warrants it - a bit more anyway.

 

[Hot Spur]

Talk about wanting your cake and eating it. If he carries on scoring at this rate he can be as 'greedy' as he likes.

16 goals in 20 games and the team is suffering as a result.

Back when i've got my head around that. I might be gone quite some time.

It's not the goals he scores, it's the goals that the team doesn't score. In a tight game with only one or two chances, trying and failing to score from tight angles instead of passing to a team mate in much better position can cost the team valuable points. It's a team game, it doesn't matter who scores as long as the team does. Just because he is labeled "striker", doesn't mean it's ok to waste chances that may cost the team points.

 

[Donki]

Why wonder? People can ask questions and look for even the best player to improve.

No one has denied he can;t improve and no one has been particularly critical of Kane but there's nothing wrong in suggesting he can look up a bit more.

I would say calling a player greedy is being critical. The guy has been a main outlet for goals these past 2 seasons, he has scored around the same number of goals as Aguero (who I would say is the best in the league) in lets be honest a team with less talanted individuals and this season only has one less assist to his name than Aguero. Vardy who most people on here say is shit has 6 assists, we just seem to pick holes and hold other players up higher than our own. We need to realise Kane is young, we need to realise he is a human being and not everythign comes quickly, he will mature in time is what im saying and I acknowledge this will improve his all round game but callign him greedy is moronic IMO.

 

[Donki]

It's not the goals he scores, it's the goals that the team doesn't score. In a tight game with only one or two chances, trying and failing to score from tight angles instead of passing to a team mate in much better position can cost the team valuable points. It's a team, it doesn't matter who scores as long as the team does. Just because he is labeled "striker", doesn't mean it's ok to waste chances that may cost the team points.

There is no gaurantee the person in a better position scores it, we seem to be saying Kane is costing us a huge amount of goals a season, look at our goals for this season FFS.

 

[Lilbaz]

If Kane wants to be one of the best in the world he will have to learn when to take the shot on and when to pass. He's doing incredibly well but if he wants to be among the elite, its that last part of his game he needs to work on.

All this nonsense people spout about being ungrateful for pointing this out, its fucking bollox to be honest.

Messi, Rooney, Suarez, Neymar, Aguero to name a few, know when to pass the ball. They all take the shot on when its more often the correct choice but when that moment is clear its better to pass they invariably do it.

Aguero recently put one on a plate for Silva to walk in, can't remember who it was against but I remember thinking to myself Harry shoots there. Its about making the higher percentage choice for the team, and the thing is it won't take away from his individual goal tally really, but it will increase the team one - and that's the pertinent point.

He's still young and developing but if I were Poch I'd be trying to develop this without taking away from his natural strengths etc. He does have a fantastic strike on him and I believe he could be one of the best in the world if he got his head up and passed it when the situation warrants it - a bit more anyway.

Lol about suarez. He was much worse than kane for shooting while at liverpool.

 

[SlotBadger]

Talk about taking any previous comments out of context...

If you start asking him to constantly look for a pass

we seem to be saying Kane is costing us a huge amount of goals

Not a single user has said he is constantly supposed to look for a pass, nor has anybody implied he is costing us a huge amount of goals.

 

[jurgen11]

He is only greedy if he doesn't score and we lose / draw - he is not greedy if he scores and we win -