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Hoddlesrightboot

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Just saw a report, probably inaccurate, where it says Man City has 200 million pounds to spend and Pep is looking at English defenders, namely Walker, Rose and Alli.

I would hope we tell him to eff off but seriously, if you have to buy a league title doesn't it devalue the achievement?

In Australia our rugby league teams have salary caps so that no one team can buy a premiership. It works well.

For the first time in my life I'm thinking that Arsenal are not as bad as Chelsea and Man City, at least they are a proper football team who budget properly and train up their youngsters.

Very discouraging.
 

SandroClegane

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Jun 27, 2012
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Just saw a report, probably inaccurate, where it says Man City has 200 million pounds to spend and Pep is looking at English defenders, namely Walker, Rose and Alli.

I would hope we tell him to eff off but seriously, if you have to buy a league title doesn't it devalue the achievement?

In Australia our rugby league teams have salary caps so that no one team can buy a premiership. It works well.

For the first time in my life I'm thinking that Arsenal are not as bad as Chelsea and Man City, at least they are a proper football team who budget properly and train up their youngsters.

Very discouraging.
You're just becoming concerned about this? 10 years too late...
 

Col_M

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Feb 28, 2012
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I normally stop reading when the budget is "revealed". It's journos filling column pages. Also watch out for Warchest, Swooping, Launching and Plottng
 

Neon_Knight_

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Jul 20, 2011
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Just saw a report, probably inaccurate, where it says Man City has 200 million pounds to spend and Pep is looking at English defenders, namely Walker, Rose and Alli.

I would hope we tell him to eff off but seriously, if you have to buy a league title doesn't it devalue the achievement?

In Australia our rugby league teams have salary caps so that no one team can buy a premiership. It works well.

For the first time in my life I'm thinking that Arsenal are not as bad as Chelsea and Man City, at least they are a proper football team who budget properly and train up their youngsters.

Very discouraging.

I have long said that, as much as I despise Arsenal, I do have a lot more respect for the way their club is run, compared to the rest of the "big clubs". I also had a fair bit of respect for Man Utd, until their transfer policy changed in more recent years.

Chelsea and Man City have very much bought their titles. Liverpool have tried to do the same in recent years, whilst constantly referencing how great they used to be, but simply haven't been able to compete financially.
 

Neon_Knight_

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Jul 20, 2011
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Just saw a report, probably inaccurate, where it says Man City has 200 million pounds to spend and Pep is looking at English defenders, namely Walker, Rose and Alli.

I would hope we tell him to eff off but seriously, if you have to buy a league title doesn't it devalue the achievement?

In Australia our rugby league teams have salary caps so that no one team can buy a premiership. It works well.

For the first time in my life I'm thinking that Arsenal are not as bad as Chelsea and Man City, at least they are a proper football team who budget properly and train up their youngsters.

Very discouraging.

That figure really doesn't concern me, as it's only slightly more than they spent in each of the previous two years, yet we look like finishing above them in consecutive seasons.

They will probably spend half of that £200m on CBs that barely improve their team :D

In case you're struggling to think of ridiculous transfer fees that City have paid in recent years, here's a few examples:
Stones - £47.5m
Bravo - £17m
Mangala - £40m
Otamendi - £32m
Bony - £28m
Jovetic - £26m

Our signings haven't all been perfect, but they've made a net loss of hundreds of millions whilst we have broken even...and our starting XI is better than theirs!
 

newbie

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Chelsea and city title wins don't really count.

Sadly they do, fff has worked really well, (sarcasm) how can city spend 200 million in a transfer window plus wages ?

2015-16 season city £396 million turn over and 196 million wages. Not long ago they had a 233 million wage bill.
 

shelfboy68

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Jun 14, 2008
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Just saw a report, probably inaccurate, where it says Man City has 200 million pounds to spend and Pep is looking at English defenders, namely Walker, Rose and Alli.

I would hope we tell him to eff off but seriously, if you have to buy a league title doesn't it devalue the achievement?

In Australia our rugby league teams have salary caps so that no one team can buy a premiership. It works well.

For the first time in my life I'm thinking that Arsenal are not as bad as Chelsea and Man City, at least they are a proper football team who budget properly and train up their youngsters.

Very discouraging.

I get what your saying but they haven't broken any rules that I know of they just have owners who seemingly are happy to spend and spend to create a winning dynasty of success.
We on the other hand can't do that so instead are doing it organically which takes more time but will certainly be worth it in the long run, and at some point we will win the league.
 

ExpatFan

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The Chavs' titles have been financed by a Russian Mafia money-launderer who stole 5 billion dollars from his own people. Shitty's titles have been financed by a "country" (in reality, a pimple on the arse of Saudi Arabia) who are only able to afford to pay for their vanity project ("small dick" syndrome?) by regularly opening up another oil well.
For me, all totally meaningless.
 

WiganSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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Chelsea fans in particular will always argue that they don't even spend much more than us nowadays in terms of net spend but this argument is the biggest load of bollocks i've ever heard. As soon as Abramovich took over in their initial splurge for the first 10 years or so the asset value of their players have skyrocketed and so they can now amass huge fees for their players from subsequent sales. What people forget is that this all originated from the initial investment.
 

Monkey boy

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Jun 18, 2011
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I get what your saying but they haven't broken any rules that I know of they just have owners who seemingly are happy to spend and spend to create a winning dynasty of success.
We on the other hand can't do that so instead are doing it organically which takes more time but will certainly be worth it in the long run, and at some point we will win the league.

Doesn't really matter whether they've broken any rules. If we ever get bankrolled in the way City and Chelski have then that'll be the day I stop following us as honestly any success will just be pointless as far as I'm concerned.
 

teok

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Aug 11, 2011
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It isn't "fair" but it constantly shakes things up and makes them exciting. Clubs rise and fall, fans get the roller coaster. I don't know which is "better" but I think it's more entertaining this way.
 

shelfboy68

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Doesn't really matter whether they've broken any rules. If we ever get bankrolled in the way City and Chelski have then that'll be the day I stop following us as honestly any success will just be pointless as far as I'm concerned.

And I respect your stance on that but I think it needs a balance with some big spends here and there on really top players, but also doing what we do developing and bringing young talent through.
However if an owner wanted to throw his money around and turn us into serial winners I would have no problem with that either.
 
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