Jack Grealish

[HW61]

Don't know about sensible... A lot of our signings struggle in their first season because of being brought in too late and not having had the benefit of a full Poch-preseason.
Poch didn't call on the club to be bold for no reason. Worried now that that plea seems to have fallen on deaf ears...

You’re right, most new players have struggled in the first season without the Poch full preseason magic. However, if we define bold as media headline signings, they are inherently very complicated and rarely brought in early....unfortunately.

PS. Love the Archie profile pic....just made me feel good so cheers.

 

[Cee_Bee]

So just my interpretation of the 'Brave' comment. I thought it was more to do with getting the targets early and not relying on a chain sale for players - buy early and buy right. Sure, he could mean 'Brave' as in the type of players. BUT, I think if Poch is buying the players HE wants, this is also the bravery and investment he's looking for. I mean, he's got a pedigree of making seemingly good players into great players. Jay Rod, Danny Rose, Harry Winks, Dele Alli, Lallana, Luke Shaw and even Harry Kane.

I also wouldn't assume that Jack would be the only incoming, Poch is a smart man he would have identified our areas of improvement and the list to accompany that. Let's hope he gets the ones he wants.

In Poch we Trust!

 

[Hengy1]

Lessons have been learned

 

[spursfan77]

Definitely Keita - I think he's bloody brilliant

You do make a good point thought - we seem to be targeting players who have played in the league before, Zaha, Martial, Grealish etc...

I suspect it’s so we can hit the ground running. I think it was vertonghen who said a couple of weeks ago that the games at the start of the season are as important as those at the end.

 

[Trix]

Yeah, which is fine idm if this is what we have to do, but why do they always push out through ITKs and media that it’s going to be different, just pointlessly raises expectations.

I can't speak for anyone else but this is how I was told it would be from the start.

 

[shoggy33]

For 15-20m seems a no brainer. Always a good sign when the selling clubs fans rate a player so highly. Will still need another top class midfield signing though, i have PTSD after watching Wanyama and Sissoko line up against Leicester a few weeks ago.

 

[cookiemonster]

Lessons have been learned

I am sure these gems will follow soon

Have to wait till the big boys finish their business first

It's difficult ...goalpost have been moved

We run out of time... will try again in January

 

[spursfan77]

We save a lot. It's not just transfer fees that get these big deals over the line early.

Do you honestly believe Poch wasn't aware of how and when we were going to sign players last week when he signed a new contract? If he actually wants to get the players he wants then it's a waiting game, and he is aware of that.

It things like agents fees and Liverpool pay big ones. If people knew how much was involved in taking chamberlain to Liverpool for example, then they’d be flabbergasted.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...emier-league-agents-fees-football-association

 

[Monkey boy]

I am sure these gems will follow soon

Have to wait till the big boys finish their business first

It's difficult ...goalpost have been moved

We run out of time... will try again in January

Yes but do you really want to do a Leeds?

 

[sunnydelight786]

They’ve spent a lot on 3 players who’ve never played in the premier league. Let’s see how they do. England isn’t Ligue 1.

If they fail then that’s going to be the stick Klopp will be beaten with and probably then lose his job over.

Besides would any of them get in our starting XI? I doubt it. Possibly keita in midfield.

Clearly you don’t watch a lot of European football if you don’t think Fekir, Keita & Fabinho walk into our team. Credit where it’s due LFC have done their homework on European players & signed up 3 already who’ve got a far higher ceiling to reach as yet.

Back on track regarding Grealish. Is he better than what we have already? If the answer is ‘No’ to that question then why the hell we signing him as we clearly need players to improve our first team (Dembele & Son/Lamela)

 

[Hakkz]

Their thread on Villatalk is amusing. Someone posted saying that we will bid 15m and then the Levy discussion started

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

Grealish wouldn’t play as an attacking midfielder for us though would he? He doesn’t score any goals for one.

He'd play the Eriksen role, which is as an AM or and I think this is what Pochettino would like the option to do, play 2 AM's and one DM rather than the 2 x DM (Dier and Wanyama) AM or DM CM (Winks/Dembele) AM. Poch may even choose to go all out and play 2 x AM with a CM when chasing a game.

Who knows but Grealish certainly gives him more options and that can only be a good thing

Possibly the post with the most acronyms ever

 

[absolute bobbins]

Clearly you don’t watch a lot of European football if you don’t think Fekir, Keita & Fabinho walk into our team. Credit where it’s due LFC have done their homework on European players & signed up 3 already who’ve got a far higher ceiling to reach as yet.

Back on track regarding Grealish. Is he better than what we have already? If the answer is ‘No’ to that question then why the hell we signing him as we clearly need players to improve our first team (Dembele & Son/Lamela)

This is a bit specious, the first team is 22/23 outfield players. I'm sure Grealish makes the grade.

Still, I'm indifferent to signing him unless it's a steal

 

[spursfan77]

Clearly you don’t watch a lot of European football if you don’t think Fekir, Keita & Fabinho walk into our team. Credit where it’s due LFC have done their homework on European players & signed up 3 already who’ve got a far higher ceiling to reach as yet.

Back on track regarding Grealish. Is he better than what we have already? If the answer is ‘No’ to that question then why the hell we signing him as we clearly need players to improve our first team (Dembele & Son/Lamela)

Bakayoko
Lacazette

 

[Colonel Dax]

Why, did we discover a vast oil field when digging out the footings of the new mega store?

No one is suggesting we go on a reckless spending splurge, Trix. Obviously we have to live within our means. However, our turnover has increased by 30% in the last year alone and is forecast to jump to £400m+ in 2018/19. Yes we have a stadium to pay for but this is financed by medium/ long term loans and naming rights and shouldn't affect our transfer budget too severely.

Our ticket prices now are amongst the most expensive in world football, so it's not surprising that supporters were expecting a slightly different approach this summer. We don't expect mega-money spending sprees but some improvement in the scope of our ambition is not too much to ask IMO.

Footnote: yes I'm fully aware the transfer window is still open

 

[YiddoInPoland]

if we get him between 15 and 20m, that is a bit of genius business from Levy.

Was a but underwhelmed at first, but this kid has talent and i agree with the poster earlier (@King of Otters was it?) that he looks similar to Barkley, just younger and without half a hamstring.

 

[Trix]

No one is suggesting we go on a reckless spending splurge, Trix. Obviously we have to live within our means. However, our turnover has increased by 30% in the last year alone and is forecast to jump to £400m+ in 2018/19. Yes we have a stadium to pay for but this is financed by medium/ long term loans and naming rights and shouldn't affect our transfer budget too severely.

Our ticket prices now are amongst the most expensive in world football, so it's not surprising that supporters were expecting a slightly different approach this summer. We don't expect mega-money spending sprees but some improvement in the scope of our ambition is not too much to ask IMO.

Footnote: yes I'm fully aware the transfer window is still open

As I said mate, I'm very sure we will be spending more on players, our wage budget will increase substantially, agents fess have gone up etc, etc, etc. Yes our turn over has increased but it's still nothing like our competitors and that's a fact.

Anyhow back to Grealish.......

 

[E17yid]

I agree that £15m-£20m is a decent-ish deal in this market and I think he’s a ok prospect but my problem with it is that I don’t think he’s a priority unless we’re selling one of Lamela or Lucas as they can over Eriksen if needs be.

And while £20m isn’t a huge sum of money today it’s still £20m we could be throwing at a top class CMF which should be our main area of concern. If buying Grealish at £20m means that’s £20m less we could offer say RM for Kovacic (if there was a possibility we could get him) then I would be gutted missing out on a genuine talent, in a position we really need a first team option.

Obviously it’s early days yet so we’ll wait and see at the end of the window I just hope this means we don’t compromise to much on other players due to our budget being stretched due to this signing.

 

[worcestersauce]

I don't doubt that we have been watching him all season whilst we have been keeping tabs on Josh Onomah, perhaps he caught the eye and our interest started then.
I appreciate why many people aren't impressed by this move with him just being a championship player but in truth he isn't a championship player, he is a Premier league player playing in the championship which is a different thing altogether. If I remember correctly the season that Villa went down he was playing very well and nearly kept them up and he should have left them that summer but showed his loyalty by staying to help get them back, judging by this season he did his best and hasn't got the respect he deserves.
I have always thought he was a terrific player far too good for the championship and if he'd been playing in France he'd be getting rave reviews, not that I disrespect all players in France by any means but Rabiot? My arse!
I genuinely believe that Jack Grealish will repay us if we buy him, his attitude seems to have improved off the field and his attitude on the field is good, he wants the ball and wants to make it work, a touch of cockiness in a play maker is no problem, there are very few quiet gentlemen like Christian Eriksen.

 

[Trix]

It things like agents fees and Liverpool pay big ones. If people knew how much was involved in taking chamberlain to Liverpool for example, then they’d be flabbergasted.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...emier-league-agents-fees-football-association

This post will be passed over by a lot on here because it doesn't suit, which is a shame. With large agent fees comes large signing on fees something else that will be ignored because it doesn't odds the net spend.