Jamie Vardy wins FWA Award

[eddiebailey]

You get the impression of Vardy that if he wasn't a professional footballer he'd be that bloke in the far corner of Wetherspoons, chucking his wages into the fruit machine day-after-day, making his half-pint last an hour.

There are reasons professional footballers are professional footballers rather than losers in pubs. And Vardy in particular did it the hard way.

 

[Insomnia]

Last award he won was in the Albert Steptoe lookalikes in June 2010. He beat Wilfred Bramble into first place. So that's two trophy's on the mantlepiece now. Congratulations. A true rag n bone man to riches story if ever there was one.

 

[Gassin's finest]

This forum is really not dealing with this well is it?

 

[Insomnia]

This forum is really not dealing with this well is it?

Take a look at the Chelsea thread

 

[talkshowhost86]

Top scorer in the team that won the league. Not exactly a surprising winner is it?

I don't particularly like Vardy, but last night showed our lot are no angels either. Personally I think Mahrez was the best Leicester player this season, but they don't win the league without Vardy so can't really complain too much if he's winning awards.

 

[Danners9]

Top scorer in the team that won the league. Not exactly a surprising winner is it?

I don't particularly like Vardy, but last night showed our lot are no angels either. Personally I think Mahrez was the best Leicester player this season, but they don't win the league without Vardy so can't really complain too much if he's winning awards.

That's not really the point i'm making. He has had a helluva season. One of a few players that could lay claim to this oh so prestigious award.

What I am attempting - poorly judging by some of the responses - is that the Football Writers who love to campaign against racism or injustice whenever it suits, and even campaigned against voting for Luis Suarez the other year, conveniently forgot Vardy's controversy, shall we say to avoid labelling a man who says racist things a full-on racist, this time around for the purposes of what one can only assume is the narrative.

And then so many of the high profile ones come out so quickly and say they didn't vote for him. Well, 36% of the 290 invited to vote did. So why so quick to distance themselves from it? There are plenty of other ways of doing it, but it seemed that no one voted for him yet here he is winning... those who did decided to keep it quiet. Wonder why...

Other points raised could be:
Do we need a FWA Award?
Who gives a F what the writers think? (except them, of course).
Why did Toby not get ANY votes?
Are the football writers simply that lazy they will go for the guy giving them good/easy copy most weeks without delving deeper?
And what it was that made them forgive his transgressions this time when they were so unforgiving on Suarez last time?

One of the points not made is that Vardy is undeserving. His form has been spectacular. AND he broke the consecutive scoring record, which I'm sure was a major factor.

I guess the overall point is that the writers are morons and not to be taken seriously, but this is a discussion forum so I thought it was a topic worthy of discussing.

 

[nightgoat]

What I am attempting - poorly judging by some of the responses - is that the Football Writers who love to campaign against racism or injustice whenever it suits, and even campaigned against voting for Luis Suarez the other year, conveniently forgot Vardy's controversy, shall we say to avoid labelling a man who says racist things a full-on racist, this time around for the purposes of what one can only assume is the narrative.

I love the insistence of some people that saying racist things in a racist fashion to someone of another race somehow isn't racist.

 

[talkshowhost86]

That's not really the point i'm making. He has had a helluva season. One of a few players that could lay claim to this oh so prestigious award.

What I am attempting - poorly judging by some of the responses - is that the Football Writers who love to campaign against racism or injustice whenever it suits, and even campaigned against voting for Luis Suarez the other year, conveniently forgot Vardy's controversy, shall we say to avoid labelling a man who says racist things a full-on racist, this time around for the purposes of what one can only assume is the narrative.

And then so many of the high profile ones come out so quickly and say they didn't vote for him. Well, 36% of the 290 invited to vote did. So why so quick to distance themselves from it? There are plenty of other ways of doing it, but it seemed that no one voted for him yet here he is winning... those who did decided to keep it quiet. Wonder why...

Other points raised could be:
Do we need a FWA Award?
Who gives a F what the writers think? (except them, of course).
Why did Toby not get ANY votes?
Are the football writers simply that lazy they will go for the guy giving them good/easy copy most weeks without delving deeper?
And what it was that made them forgive his transgressions this time when they were so unforgiving on Suarez last time?

One of the points not made is that Vardy is undeserving. His form has been spectacular. AND he broke the consecutive scoring record, which I'm sure was a major factor.

I guess the overall point is that the writers are morons and not to be taken seriously, but this is a discussion forum so I thought it was a topic worthy of discussing.

If your point is that journalists are hypocrites then I think I have one word for you Danners....

Doy!

 

[Danners9]

I love the insistence of some people that saying racist things in a racist fashion to someone of another race somehow isn't racist.

Can he say or do something racist but not be a racist? I mean, being a racist seems a bit full-time.. is he part-time?

I would suggest that someone with those insults in their vocab harbors thoughts along those lines. I would just call someone a c*nt, regardless of their colour or religion.. doesn't have to be insulting to where they come from. Just who they are as an individual. Much better.

I don't think he is a racist in the way a KKK Grand Wizard is, but.. well, he used an insult in a similar way to how everyone except John Terry says he did.

 

[Danners9]

If your point is that journalists are hypocrites then I think I have one word for you Danners....

Doy!

thanks for your contribution to the thread. Much appreciated.

 

[talkshowhost86]

thanks for your contribution to the thread. Much appreciated.

Cheers.

If you want some further input on the racism element then yes they are massively hypocritical for voting for Vardy whilst campaigning to vote against Suarez on the grounds of Suarez making a racist comment.

But as I said hypocrisy from the press isn't really anything new, and any issues of Vardy making a racist comment or Danny Simpson hitting a woman etc etc will be brushed under the carpet as it doesn't fit the narrative.

Personally I suspect that Vardy, much like Suarez, isn't actually a racist but is just an idiot. He said something very stupid and was lucky to get away with it, largely, it seems, because it didn't happen on the pitch. There's a fine line between saying something racist and actually being a card-carrying racist, and I haven't seen anything to suggest that either has crossed that line.

Either way, the FWA is about who is the best player, and Vardy certainly has a claim to that this season. Any other moralising the press want to do (and they should be doing that) should be in the papers that they get paid to write for.

 

[nightgoat]

Cheers.

If you want some further input on the racism element then yes they are massively hypocritical for voting for Vardy whilst campaigning to vote against Suarez on the grounds of Suarez making a racist comment.

But as I said hypocrisy from the press isn't really anything new, and any issues of Vardy making a racist comment or Danny Simpson hitting a woman etc etc will be brushed under the carpet as it doesn't fit the narrative.

Personally I suspect that Vardy, much like Suarez, isn't actually a racist but is just an idiot. He said something very stupid and was lucky to get away with it, largely, it seems, because it didn't happen on the pitch. There's a fine line between saying something racist and actually being a card-carrying racist, and I haven't seen anything to suggest that either has crossed that line.

Either way, the FWA is about who is the best player, and Vardy certainly has a claim to that this season. Any other moralising the press want to do (and they should be doing that) should be in the papers that they get paid to write for.

He got away with it on the basis that he was far more important to the team than the three youth team players who were sacked for being racist, and that he didn't racially abuse someone of the same nationality as the owners.

 

[talkshowhost86]

He got away with it on the basis that he was far more important to the team than the three youth team players who were sacked for being racist, and that he didn't racially abuse someone of the same nationality as the owners.

Yep I think you're right.

But if it had happened in a game, it would have been taken out of the club's hands. That's where he was lucky that he was stupid during pre-season.

 

[Insomnia]

I love the insistence of some people that saying racist things in a racist fashion to someone of another race somehow isn't racist.

Fuck off, you racist Goat.

 

[talkshowhost86]

I love the insistence of some people that saying racist things in a racist fashion to someone of another race somehow isn't racist.

Of course it is racist.

But saying something stupid (and racist) in the heat of the moment is very different from joining the Klan.

Still should be punished obviously, but you then don't necessarily deserve to be pilloried for the rest of your career.

I think Suarez was a bit different because, if I remember correctly, he had previous on the racism front, together with the fact that he'd been a nasty little thug for the whole of his career up to that point and then refused to accept any liability for what he'd done (to the extent of not shaking Evra's hand).

That may be why some of the press were more against him then than they are against Vardy now.

None of it excuses what Vardy did or said of course, but I'm not sure it's directly comparable to the Suarez situation.

 

[Hazardousman]

"Racism is weird. Everybody knows it totally exists, but when you look at any specific situation, racism is never involved. You can know that it exists, but when you look for it, it turns into something else.

Racism is quantum locked. It doesn't exist when it's being observed. The moment it is seen by any living creature, it freezes into a coincidence"

Or in the case of Vardy, simply ignored because it doesn't fit the fairytale narrative and the media is full of contradictory pricks.

I have never been racist in my entire life, I am of the belief that if a person is capable of saying something racist, even the one time, then they clearly hold some form of racist beliefs deep down.

Vardy is a racist, just like Suarez was and is and just like Terry was and is, can people change? Yes do I believe Vardy has? No.