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Joses treatment of Schweinsteiger

nowayjose

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http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-prison-over-bastian-schweinsteiger-treatment
The world football players' union FIFpro has said Bastian Schweinsteiger is essentially being bullied at Manchester United.Schweinsteiger appears to have been cut out of the first-team picture since Jose Mourinho's arrival as United manager in the summer, with reports that he has been training with the reserves.

"Schweinsteiger has been put in a situation where Manchester United are trying to force him to move on and leave the club."

Is this okay? It seems to be quite common practice with several managers once players are not in their plans anymore. AVB did the same in his time here, and im not sure how those not in Pochs plans are being treated. With Poch though I know Adebayors relationship with him was fine even if he was not included. Obviously the managers care a great deal about the unity of their group, keeping disruptive influences away and planning for future results. But demoting professionals who commands respect in the community feels a little cheap. Schweinsteiger is a winner, lots of experience and apparently has a good attitude, but no time for sentiment in football.
In a normal workplace it would definitely raise eyebrows.
 

dontcallme

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I guess that's the thing with contracts. Normal companies can fire people no longer needed and come to an agreement with a leaving package.

Football clubs buy players and want to recoup money for players once no longer needed.

Freezing players out to make them want to move is horrible but going to happen.

Don't like it but as long as there are transfer fees things like this will happen.
 

Goofster

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I think this is a non story really and essentially the same as we did with Adebayor for example.

I don't agree with the methods but it's been happening for a while now and it's no different just because the players name is Schweinsteiger.
 

chaching

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Adebayor was being punished for not being professional or a team player. It was as much to give a message to the other players as well as punishing Adebayor. Everything I have heard of Schweinsteiger is that he is a model professional. He just doesn't have the legs he used to have.

I would say that if you were leading 1-0 and are needing a level head to keep thing calm and ticking over Schweinsteiger would be a great shout to bring off the bench late on. I would also say he is someone you would want to be helping your youth players but it doesn't send out a good message to basically be punishing him for remaining professional but having his age and the amount of games he has played catch up on him.
 

Shadydan

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So what's stopping him from finding a new club then, I don't see why people should feel sorry for him I mean it's not as if he's being docked wages. Players hold clubs to ransom all the time and they act like shithouses when they want to leave so I don't see why the club are being blamed for doing something similar to them.
 

nailsy

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I can't see any need to freeze players out like this. It just seems like an attempt to humiliate the player which is pretty low.
 

dontcallme

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So what's stopping him from finding a new club then, I don't see why people should feel sorry for him I mean it's not as if he's being docked wages. Players hold clubs to ransom all the time and they act like shithouses when they want to leave so I don't see why the club are being blamed for doing something similar to them.

I don't think it's a case of feeling sorry for him.

It's a case of people thinking the way the club is treating him is wrong. Why shouldn't a human being be treated with respect? Why does how much he earns change that?

If a club is treating someone poorly then it's fine to acknowledge that just like if a player acts unprofessionally we can criticise his actions. Don't see why anyone would criticise one footballer on the basis of the actions of other players.
 

RichieS

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It does seem odd as one would think he's not done anything wrong. Surely a player of his skill and experience can make a positive contribution to first team training sessions, and knowing that he has no hope of being selected is the incentive he needs to find a new club?
 

mpickard2087

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Got no problem with it. I much rather a manager who comes in, tells whoever he considers trash to fuck off, and get on with doing things his way and you judge him on those efforts. If he doesn't fit in his plans, why waste time and effort.
 

Khilari

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Man Utd, like THFC are businesses as well who employ tactics used everywhere in the corporate world.

It's sad for Schweinsteiger, but I have little sympathy for him. He's not part of the plans and they'd like to free up his wages.

It's not like he's a United "hero" who's been a long standing servant of the club.
 

ExpatFan

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This episode says more about "The Cheque Book One" than it does about the player, in my view.
 

Phantom

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Seems rather pointless to be doing this unless he is being a bad influence and I have never heard anything untoward about him.

No reason he can't continue to train with the seniors.
 

mightyspur

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It's how Jose manages. Look what he's doing to Mata. It's how he stamps his authority
 

ExpatFan

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It's how Jose manages. Look what he's doing to Mata. It's how he stamps his authority
If he feels that the best or only way to stamp his so-called authority is to behave in such an immature and even spiteful fashion, then he's just confirming what the overwhelming majority of football fans think of him. Not that the arse-licking tabloid hacks will ever call him out on this.
 

Shadydan

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If he feels that the best or only way to stamp his so-called authority is to behave in such an immature and even spiteful fashion, then he's just confirming what the overwhelming majority of football fans think of him. Not that the arse-licking tabloid hacks will ever call him out on this.

He isn't as infallible as he once was, he's getting criticised from some sections of the media for that already.
 

Hot Spur

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Schweinsteiger has always appeared to be a model professional, if he is not in Mourinho's plans, then just tell him to look for another club but no need to treat him like a child. I read a piece by Bobby Soldado in which he said that during the time he was looking for another club he was allowed to train with the first team, use all the club facilities and come and go as he pleased. He had full access to everything. Quite the opposite to Adebayor but then Bobby was a model professional, Ade wasn't. That's the difference.
 

Lilbaz

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There is little loyalty in football anymore. By players, clubs or fans.

It's why i don't get upset when the likes of modric and bale leave. They see how fans treat players like jenas and realise they don't really owe us any loyalty because if they weren't playing well some of our fans would turn on them quick enough.
 
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