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Juande's philosophy @ Sevilla

yanno

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Below is an interview with Juande Ramos conducted when he coach at Sevilla. It was published in February 2007.

There are several SC threads claiming this and that, but here are our coach's own words.

I find it particularly interesting that he agrees that one man cannot do the job of both DoF and coach, but also states that he himself (and not his DoF) recommended Fredi Kanoute for Sevilla. This, and Ramos' description of how he works with the DoF in targetting players, suggests to me that, in principle, Juande could theoretically work with a Chief Scout instead of a DoF.

Juande also states, highly ironically, that at Sevilla, "You won't find us doing here what they do at other clubs, when after one bad season they dump 10 players and get 10 new ones or change the whole structure."

:eek:mg:

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http://www.worldsoccer.com/interviews/sevilla_coach_juande_ramos_interview_107105.html

Sevilla coach Juande Ramos

2007-01-24 12:27:00
World Soccer: You're UEFA Cup holders, thrashed Barcelona to win the European Supercup, are top of the Spanish League and playing brilliantly. How have you managed it?
We've had such self-confidence and conviction since the UEFA Cup Final that we have been able to achieve really excellent results. We beat Barcelona clearly and went on an excellent run in the League. The team has total confidence in our system; there's a real conviction about everything we do. The key is convincing the players to be very ambitious. Sometimes you can lose games, but you have to keep going with it, keep striving to achieve more.

Can that confidence be broken by a couple of bad results?
I don't think so. We've had a few bad results and come back from them. I try to make the players see that you can win or lose, but that there's a path you have to stick to. You can lose the match, but you can't lose your identity.

Sevilla's success has been coming for a long time, hasn't it? This is a club that does things the right way at almost all levels. The youth system is productive, the signings policy has been successful…
You won't find us doing here what they do at other clubs, when after one bad season they dump 10 players and get 10 new ones or change the whole structure. Each season we perfect little things, we don't need a huge overhaul every summer. Last season, we got knocked out of the Spanish Cup but carried on in the same manner because we thought we were doing things right. We wouldn't have succeeded if we had thrown away all that good work.

Sevilla have been very successful in the transfer market.
There are players we can't afford so we have to look for cheaper players who still give us good results. You're never going to get it 100 per cent right but there are ways of maximising your chances: you don't just look at the player on the pitch but everything about him. You can think someone's a good player and then discover that his private life is a mess. So, you watch him play and train, you speak to those close to him.

Is it easier to work without stars, with players who have won nothing?
The player who is not a star may be hungrier but the star guarantees you a certain number of victories because he can win games on his own. Sevilla don't have any stars but we win the games on the basis of humility and a level of physical exertion that is very, very high. Teams with stars make far less effort but can win the game with one moment.

How does your relationship with sporting director Monchi work? What roles do you have when it comes to choosing players?
There's a clear consensus. I tell Monchi the player or type of player I want: fast, tall, left-footed, right- footed, good in the air…and, based on his work and expertise, he says to me: “Look, we have this guy, or this guy.” Between us, we identify the player, or players, who can fit that. But it's not always like that. For example, Freddie Kanoute was a player no one here really knew and I recommended him because I had seen him for Tottenham and West Ham.

Would you like the model to be more like in England, with you controlling the signings? In Spain, at other clubs, the sporting director-coach model has caused lots of problems.
The thing is, the coach doesn't really have time to do both jobs. What you need is trust and professionalism.


This is an excerpt from an interview with Juande Ramos. The full interview appeared in the February 2007 issue of World Soccer.
 

SpurSince57

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You won't find us doing here what they do at other clubs, when after one bad season they dump 10 players and get 10 new ones or change the whole structure. Each season we perfect little things, we don't need a huge overhaul every summer.

Ooops.
 

milkman

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Maybe Ramos would have been more succesful if he had less money to spend, making him have to spend more time and care on transfers....
 

lily_lane

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Yanno Posted:
Juande also states, highly ironically, that at Sevilla, "You won't find us doing here what they do at other clubs, when after one bad season they dump 10 players and get 10 new ones or change the whole structure."

Proving that he took advantage of being at a club with money, and a willingness to spend it, changing his philosophy entirely, cos our squad was really not that bad to warrant so many changes. We just needed important experienced additions and vital replacements of about 5 players max IMO.

There was a very interesting, not to say infuriating interview with Spanish correspondent Graham Thingy (the Scottish bloke) on talkSPORT this morning.

It was eye poppingly bizarre in it's ignorant assessment of life at Spurs for Juande.

Basically he said that Ramos had not gone bitching to the Spanish press at all, but had maintained a dignified silence, but that none of the signings made in the transfer window had he said "yes" to. :duh:

He claimed that had Ramos been allowed to, he would've bought mostly Spanish players, as Benitez had, as they were the players he knew most about, and had proved successful for Pool, so Ramos would naturally want to do the same.

Also that at Sevilla he was known for being a Coach who was given players to work with, so it was nothing new to him.

Ill informed comments, yet still damning of Ramos, the Coach. :whistle:
 

yanno

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Lily Lane - of course we don't know for sure, but my instinct is that Juande would have been very happy with Gomes, Modric & Dos Santos, and happy with Pav, Corluka & Bentley. Woodgate, Hutton & Gunter were also good signings, with only Gilberto unfortunately looking like a dud from that January window.

I'm also pretty sure that Juande would have regarded Arshavin and a proper DM as essential, and of course we failed on both counts.

The bottom line though is that Juande is paid to coach: to turn the players at his disposal into a confident, winning side that maximizes the squad's available strengths and hides its weaknesses. And the next few weeks, with Pav out, will be a huge & defining test for Ramos.

There's also no hiding the fact that dumping 10 players and getting 10 new ones in presents a huge challenge for any coach. Don't quote me, quote Juande....
 

lily_lane

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There's no doubt that Ramos's reputation as a Coach in the PL will be made or broken in the coming months.

Although I'm criticial of him, I don't think he should be sacked. Neither should anyone else. Including Comolli.

Those who are responsible for our current plight are the ones who should be charged with getting us out of it.

Good Luck.
 

bubble07

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All we need in Jan is Arshavin and Gattuso to push us from mid table which is where we will be by January to the top 6 where we will hopefully be in May
 

Spursking

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We have spent too much, and I cannot believe we have paid overprice for so many players.

I am confident we had been in the top 4 now, if we had bought players like Romaric, Gervinho, Gomis, Gakpe, Biseswar, Diarra, Briand, to name a few......
 
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