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Gb160

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Jun 20, 2012
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Not spending anything guarantee's us nothing, history shows that. How many times have we not purchased a striker in Jan and regretted it come the end of the season?
You've completely missed the point.
Spending loads on a player doesn't guarantee success, as we saw with Bobby.
Getting the right player in is much more important.
 

jurgen

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I think that Shane Long is one of those players who's matured with age but who is still sharp enough to learn new things. As a back up for Kane, coming off the bench or deputising I reckon we could do a lot worse. Might be hard to do much better in the winter window too.

He's always been one that divided opinion to say the least. I reckon Poch could make him very handy indeed he's got a great work ethic and isn't a donkey
 

hakano

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Who came on for Lukaku when Lukaku looked knackered despite all those breaks Lukaku gets from Everton's second target man striker that helps poor Lukaku out when he gets tired?

Yes, we need a back up striker but Harry will still be playing every possible minute. Why? Because there's very few better than him.

The problem with that is that his performances will dip and more likely to get an injury
 

Hercules

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I am very happy with what I am seeing develop before us, and expected we would be a top 7 (more 6/7) at the start of the season due to lack of key signings. I applaud Mauricio for what is developing this season. Whilst I do not believe we will win it, there is nothing wrong in dreaming.

Whilst I accept the improvement of Lamela, I still believe aside from his work rate, he does not offer the penetration I expect to see, like you do with other top players. Eriksen needs serious competition, not knowing if Pritchard will offer that when fully immersed. The blatantly obvious is Kane looking knackered, needing a brake. The two areas I see are Lamela and Kane competition, in Kane's case someone to share the load.

I am not advocating selling Lamela or Eriksen. Today in my opinion they were ineffective in the area and position they played in. Lamela was tidy but not a threat at all. Same can be said with Eriksen.
 

Mr Pink

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We need cover and someone to share the burden with Kane, simple as that.

Given our position and the nature of the League this season it would be hugely remiss not to address this glaring need. I understand and accept that Poch and his team will only want players in they deem suitable on all counts, but surely to God we've identified a healthy list of alternatives even if January isn't ideal - we've know about this problem all season long.

I fully expect us to be doing everything in our power to sign another forward this January.
 

millsey

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Dec 8, 2005
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Who came on for Lukaku when Lukaku looked knackered despite all those breaks Lukaku gets from Everton's second target man striker that helps poor Lukaku out when he gets tired?

Yes, we need a back up striker but Harry will still be playing every possible minute. Why? Because there's very few better than him.
And it's one reason Everton won't make top 4
 

theShiznit

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I'm sure getting any competition in in itself would give Kane a lift.

Breel Embolo or Dembele for me, if Poch really does want SB, I hope it's not for more than £16m. and I want pics of Peace crying whilst wearing a "you've been Levy'd!" onesie.
 

Phomesy

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Aug 20, 2013
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And it's one reason Everton won't make top 4

Huh? Everton's problem is a leaky defence.

This is getting silly. People are behaving as if buying a new striker immediately means Kane gets rest every second minute. It's just not that way. Poch plays a single striker. That striker is Kane and has been Kane since Kane made it his spot. He didn't get "rest" from Ade and by the end of last campaign Poch had even stopped bothering using Soldado as a replacement for Kane.

Unless we sign Ibrahimovic, Kane will play no more and no less than he has for the past 12 months. It's not about poor widdle Harry getting weary - it's about cover if he's injured.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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And my point is that unless this mythical new striker was top drawer Kane wouldn't have played a minute less this season.

We need a striker in case Kane gets injured. All this "Oh the poor dear's weally weally tired" shtick is starting to do my head in. It's not like Lukaku doesn't get played every minute he's available is it? That's just how it goes.

And you saw how effective lukaku was today. A pail shadow of the player of 2/3 weeks ago. No way as effective.

Of course Kane would have played less if we had another striker. He wouldn't have started the majority of Europa league games for a start. We aren't going to sign a striker of the equivalent ability of Kane. We don't have a spare £60 million lying around.

As I said in the summer, surely not another 1 of the 91 league clubs only has 1 striker. It's madness.
 

Hercules

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I am very happy with what I am seeing develop before us, and expected we would be a top 7 (more 6/7) at the start of the season due to lack of key signings. I applaud Mauricio for what is developing this season. Whilst I do not believe we will win it, there is nothing wrong in dreaming.

Whilst I accept the improvement of Lamela, I still believe aside from his work rate, he does not offer the penetration I expect to see, like you do with other top players. Eriksen needs serious competition, not knowing if Pritchard will offer that when fully immersed. The blatantly obvious is Kane looking knackered, needing a brake. The two areas I see are Lamela and Kane competition, in Kane's case someone to share the load.

I am not advocating selling Lamela or Eriksen. Today in my opinion they were ineffective in the area and position they played in. Lamela was tidy but not a threat at all. Same can be said with Eriksen.

Tropicalyid! Please understand what I am saying. I am not skating anyone but offering a constructive debate on what I see for this season. Use today for example, imagine we had a specialist striker yo help Kane out. Delafou (probably spelt wrong) to come on for Lamela. It is highly possible in my eyes we would of won due to the offensive threat they would offer. We played in front of their defence at times in the second half. It seems nobody wants the title this season so why not us with couple acquisitions?
 

ButchCassidy

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Jul 12, 2012
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Huh? Everton's problem is a leaky defence.

This is getting silly. People are behaving as if buying a new striker immediately means Kane gets rest every second minute. It's just not that way. Poch plays a single striker. That striker is Kane and has been Kane since Kane made it his spot. He didn't get "rest" from Ade and by the end of last campaign Poch had even stopped bothering using Soldado as a replacement for Kane.

Unless we sign Ibrahimovic, Kane will play no more and no less than he has for the past 12 months. It's not about poor widdle Harry getting weary - it's about cover if he's injured.
Its also about having a useful body to throw on in the 70th minute when Kane looks knackered and ineffective. It could be argued that that's one of the reasons we've drawn so many games this season, and it certainly would have helped how impotent we looked for the last 20 minutes at Goodison.
 

tttcowan

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Aug 12, 2005
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And my point is that unless this mythical new striker was top drawer Kane wouldn't have played a minute less this season.

We need a striker in case Kane gets injured. All this "Oh the poor dear's weally weally tired" shtick is starting to do my head in. It's not like Lukaku doesn't get played every minute he's available is it? That's just how it goes.
Well that's just bollocks isn't it.

Jesus. Of course he would of played him less. There are 4 competitions we're in so undoubtedly Kane would of played less if only in the cups. And we could of taken Kane off in games as well and wrap him in cotton wool.

Said it at the start but its not fair to be so reliant on Kane. Give the guy a break. He's nackered and hasn't been right since the start of the season. Understandably.

Spurs owe it to him to give him support.
 

greaves

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Tropicalyid! Please understand what I am saying. I am not skating anyone but offering a constructive debate on what I see for this season. Use today for example, imagine we had a specialist striker yo help Kane out. Delafou (probably spelt wrong) to come on for Lamela. It is highly possible in my eyes we would of won due to the offensive threat they would offer. We played in front of their defence at times in the second half. It seems nobody wants the title this season so why not us with couple acquisitions?

I think the idea that no one wants the title is media cliche. Really its the opposite. Everyone wants it. Many can get it!
 

Phomesy

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Lukaku did alright I thought considering the quality of our centre backs. Worked them both.

Nah he was exhausted innit...


People are confusing the danger of having NO back up with the excuse of saying Harry looks tired every time he doesn't perform well enough. He got schooled by Stones today. It happens. Verts did a number on Lukaku - didn't stop Lukaku looking dangerous till the final whistle.

Yes we need another striker. But it's not because poor widdle Harry's getting tiwed... It's because if he goes down we're proper fucked.
 

Hercules

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I think the idea that no one wants the title is media cliche. Really its the opposite. Everyone wants it. Many can get it!
I do agree, but more to do with how erratic it has been. I want to see us do it, and it uses possibility if we address a couple of areas. The youngsters need a helping hand, and Eriksen is not saying it at present, whilst Kane looks knackered. Lamela though been going great lately still does not look the player he was at Roma. None of the spoken go I want to loose, but good quality competition won't harm anyone.
 

eViL

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He ALWAYS looks knackered..

Truth is it's too easy to mark him out of the game unless the front 3 AMs are running in behind and threatening the goal.

Unfortunately Eriksen isn't helping. Still.
 
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