Kane back up
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knowlespurs
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bearing in mind his age, and levy i think we can safely say there is zero chance of that
CoopsieDeadpool
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Although I think it's obvious that's just a thought you had, may I ask what's made you come up with it mate?
EQP
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If they sign Saido
They will have de jong, cisse,mitrovic, perez, widjnaldum
I can see them parting with perez to get townsend.
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Those examples are isolated Michael came through very early at 17? Rooney was playing first team at 16... Torres I don't know but believe he came through early too.. It's relative how you look after the body, Owen was alledgedly a huge gambler, and we know Wayne's story. Kane was 21 before getting regular games at Spurs
I agree 100% we need to rest him and preserve him, it's too much.
I think it's as much about mental strength and injuries too.
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He did call berahino firmly first I believe..
Anyway this has to be the Lacazette at Lyon rumour doesn't it? Heard it was on Twitter, Newcastle apparently bid big and their is an inkling on line that were in and made a bid.
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I was thinking more towards the last part of your post. I don't see why they'd be willing to let him go, as I thought he was really highly thought of up there.
Is he even very good? From what little I've seen of him, he looks okay , but that's about it. But he's only young isn't he?
I don't think we've even been linked with him anyway have we?
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I think there was talk of poch being a Fan of Perez but nothing concrete. About Newcastle selling, that was me being overly positive, wouldnt mind perez to complement Kane. Has quick feet, decent eye for goal can interchange with out attacking players.
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What Lacazette rumor? The rumor he turned down Newcastle of has there been something involving us?
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There was a rumour on Twitter which was I think on one of the Spurs sites (I view them as I got banned a few transfer windows ago and have to get sc news from other sites) anyway the Twitter rumour was that we were going to sign Lacazette as Lyon are skint and Newcastle had a bid accepted, though player didn't want to go there but was happy to come to us. Just a Twitter rumour but it was doing the rounds and a few usually reputable sources mentioned the rumour.
Hi just that we need a striker and I like perez a lot seeing as they want townsend I think it would be silly of us not to try and get perez. I think he fits the poch mould brilliantly.
Right!! i agree your opinion. Nowdays, Martinez is not perfect form like previous.!! even if ... too old
Or LAMELA?
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I hope Son and Chadli's performances and goals have put paid once and for all the notion that we need to chuck away any more money on a "back up". Two perfectly adequate ones here already.
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Why did Poch have to bring Kane on then after 60 mins?
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I have absolutely no idea behind the rationale of about 95.6% of Pochettino's substitutions and last night was no exception.
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Dear All,
I really don’t understand why some of you still think we don’t need a second centre forward.
I disagree when some of you say that we need a “Kane Back Up”.
We just need a 2 nd decent centre forward to help the team to manage the rest of the season.
We potentially have 31 games remaining for this 2015-2016 season.
PL : 16 games
FA Cup : 6 games (if we reach the final).
EL Cup : 9 games (if we reach the final).
I honestly think we can try to progress as far as possible in the FA Cup and EL Cup because we have a quality squad but we really miss a second decent centre forward to help the squad to play all these games.
I don’t know how some of you have tried to convince themselves that only Harry Kane (with the help of Son and Chadli – both of them not being centre forwards) can be a real solution to see Spurs progress far into the 2 Cup competitions + securing Top 4 football in the PL.
Kane has played a huge numbers of games since more than 1,5 year and the beginning of the 2014-2015 season (with almost no rest period this past summer).
By some miracle, he hasn’t injured himself during the first part of the season and both Levy and Poch have had 6 months to work on the recruitment of a second striker.
And it still seems that we aren’t closed from signing a second striker for the nth transfer window.
There is 10 days remaining in this winter transfers window and I still don’t understand why we haven’t signed the so obvious answer to our second striker problem : Charlie Austin.
It was obvious Charlie Austin was for sale and it appears that at some point, we were interested in him.
That made sense.
He is 26 years old ( not too “old” for Levy). He is a proven EPL striker.
He was very good value and we have had good relationship with QPR.
He has a good mentality.
Tottenham has much more to play for than Southampton and we can't deny the potential of THFC is better than the Saints.
I still don’t understand why Austin isn’t a Spurs player by now.
With so many games remaining, and Spurs playing with only one centre forward, he would have had much time play (and not only be " Kane's back up).
For example,
Poch could have started Austin in FA Cup and EL League games (with Kane coming in as a sub around 60 minutes into games).
Poch could have continued to start Kane in PL games.(with Austin coming in a sub around 60 minutes into games).
Poch could even had changed his strategy in some games and play them both together.
I think we missed an invaluable chance to give us more options to finally achieve something this year.
Levy and Poch have shot themselves (and ourselves) in the foot by missing to sign Austin.
Both Levy and Poch are both responsible and guilty for that grotesque situation.
I think they are too demanding concerning a possible second striker.
We don’t necessarily need to sign someone or sign a world class player ,
a loan of a decent forward until the end of the season would make it.
The vast majority of you know the club better than me.
That’s why, it makes me even more annoyed to think that most of you try to convince themselves
that we will be ok with Son and Chadli in the “second main striker” role.
I don’t understand it when Poch tries to convince himself (and all us) that we don’t desperately need
a second striker and that Son (or even Chadli) can fill that role.
We desperately need a second striker not to ruin this very decent first half of the season.
Son and Chadli will be vital for us and will provide us goals without a doubt but as wingers and not as “permanent” “second strikers”.
It was nice to see them scored yesterday vs the B-Team of Leicester.
Nevertheless, I really am not sure they would be able to be efficient in the same way in the latter stages of FA Cup, EL Cup or even PL games vs the big Guns if Kane is too tired or injured.
Levy and Poch are both responsible as it now appears that we won’t sign anyone.
A few weeks ago, I read an article on SC that mentioned that Poch had some influence on Levy’s decisions regarding our players and recruitment policy.
I still haven’t seen a proof of that.
For example, Poch doesn’t want Townsend any more but Levy is playing hardball with Newcastle
to get £14 M from the AT’s sale.
If we were serious regarding negotiations and Poch having some influence on Levy, he would tell him to take maybe £10M or £12M.
And re-use this money to help to fund the recruitment of a second striker.
Here is my point of view about the targets we have been linked to in this transfer window.
Berahino.
It seems less and less likely we will sign him.
Especially because Townsend doesn’t want to go at WBA to reduce the bill.
Wissam Ben Yedder.
He is not for sale this winter market.
Toulouse president Olivier Sadran made it clear he could leave in the summer but he wouldn’t let him go now. Sadran made it clear Ben Yedder is the most important player to save Toulouse from relegation this year.
I know the french Ligue 1 quite well and this guy clearly isn’t good enough to achieve what we are looking for.
Mishy Batshuayi
He is not for sale this winter market.
Marseille is in a similar situation as spurs.
Batshuayi is the only centre forward and are currently looking to sign a Batshuayi’s back up.
That’s why, Marseille are also interested in Ben Yedder.
Batshuayi is going nowhere this winter. If by some miracle he has to leave Marseille this winter, it is more likely to be for West Ham than to THFC.
Would be great to have it , but he won’t leave Marseille before this summer. We should have signed him when he was still playing at Standard de Liège.
Alexandre Lacazette.
He would be a great addition to our squad but he is not for sale this winter.
Lyon just sells his second striker Claudio Beauvue to Celta Vigo (just 6 months after Lyon signed him from Guingamp).
Lyon is in a similar situation as spurs.
Lacazette is the only centre forward and Lyon are currently looking to sign a Lacazette’s back up. That’s why Lyon are also interested in Ben Yedder. As Lyon needs to secure CL footie by the end of the season.
Newcastle are interested in him but he doesn’t want to go there.
Would be interesting to sign him in the summer if we catch CL football.
Jackson Martinez.
Even if Poch to be interested in him, he is probably too old (29 yo) for Levy.
Furthermore, we all know Levy wouldn’t spend 30 M Eur (£23M) for an unproven (in the PL) 29 years old player.
It seems we made an offer with amount mentioned above but I doubt this is a genuine piece of information.
According to what I have read on the internet , it seems the only solution we are left with is
Sandro Ramirez.
That might be good to sign him if Poch is interested.
Barcelona would be ok to let him go but want to add a buy-back clause in the contract.
Poch seems very reluctant about the buy-back clause.
Barça wants about £9M for him (release clause) and seems Spurs would be ok to pay that amount.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/636476/Tottenham-in-talks-Barcelona-Sandro-Ramirez-transfer-news-gossip
http://talksport.com/football/tottenham-revive-interest-barcelona-misfit-sandro-ramirez-160120181810
I wish we’ll sign him but on many aspects, this option is more risky.
We could have secured a good or great season with just £4M .
For reasons I don’t understand, we f.cked it up…
If some of you are ITK, it would be great to let us know why…
We have now less than 10 days to get this 2 nd striker situation fixed or we will condemned to
Pray that our Messiah Kane to still walk on the water for the next 4 months.
If it appears that Poch and Levy don’t even manage to get a decent striker on loan, I would understand that Kane to be very furious.
If he has to play most of the +30 games remaining ( I wish we play the 2 cups to go as far as possible),
in the best case scenario , he doesn’t injured himself by the end of the season but will be completely mentally and physically knackered for the Euro 2016 with England.
This would be a complete disrespect to such a loyal servant of this club him to prevent him
to play this Euro with England while exhausted.
In the worst case scenario, he injured himself at some point in the next 4 months and jeopardize his chances to play Euro and jeopardize the whole season of the full Squad.
He knows our whole season is too dependent on his fitness and efficiency
and I think that such a situation should happen in a Club like Tottenham.
But you all probably know only too well that we have failed so many times whereas
we have had everything to succeed.
Alex
I really don’t understand why some of you still think we don’t need a second centre forward.
I disagree when some of you say that we need a “Kane Back Up”.
We just need a 2 nd decent centre forward to help the team to manage the rest of the season.
We potentially have 31 games remaining for this 2015-2016 season.
PL : 16 games
FA Cup : 6 games (if we reach the final).
EL Cup : 9 games (if we reach the final).
I honestly think we can try to progress as far as possible in the FA Cup and EL Cup because we have a quality squad but we really miss a second decent centre forward to help the squad to play all these games.
I don’t know how some of you have tried to convince themselves that only Harry Kane (with the help of Son and Chadli – both of them not being centre forwards) can be a real solution to see Spurs progress far into the 2 Cup competitions + securing Top 4 football in the PL.
Kane has played a huge numbers of games since more than 1,5 year and the beginning of the 2014-2015 season (with almost no rest period this past summer).
By some miracle, he hasn’t injured himself during the first part of the season and both Levy and Poch have had 6 months to work on the recruitment of a second striker.
And it still seems that we aren’t closed from signing a second striker for the nth transfer window.
There is 10 days remaining in this winter transfers window and I still don’t understand why we haven’t signed the so obvious answer to our second striker problem : Charlie Austin.
It was obvious Charlie Austin was for sale and it appears that at some point, we were interested in him.
That made sense.
He is 26 years old ( not too “old” for Levy). He is a proven EPL striker.
He was very good value and we have had good relationship with QPR.
He has a good mentality.
Tottenham has much more to play for than Southampton and we can't deny the potential of THFC is better than the Saints.
I still don’t understand why Austin isn’t a Spurs player by now.
With so many games remaining, and Spurs playing with only one centre forward, he would have had much time play (and not only be " Kane's back up).
For example,
Poch could have started Austin in FA Cup and EL League games (with Kane coming in as a sub around 60 minutes into games).
Poch could have continued to start Kane in PL games.(with Austin coming in a sub around 60 minutes into games).
Poch could even had changed his strategy in some games and play them both together.
I think we missed an invaluable chance to give us more options to finally achieve something this year.
Levy and Poch have shot themselves (and ourselves) in the foot by missing to sign Austin.
Both Levy and Poch are both responsible and guilty for that grotesque situation.
I think they are too demanding concerning a possible second striker.
We don’t necessarily need to sign someone or sign a world class player ,
a loan of a decent forward until the end of the season would make it.
The vast majority of you know the club better than me.
That’s why, it makes me even more annoyed to think that most of you try to convince themselves
that we will be ok with Son and Chadli in the “second main striker” role.
I don’t understand it when Poch tries to convince himself (and all us) that we don’t desperately need
a second striker and that Son (or even Chadli) can fill that role.
We desperately need a second striker not to ruin this very decent first half of the season.
Son and Chadli will be vital for us and will provide us goals without a doubt but as wingers and not as “permanent” “second strikers”.
It was nice to see them scored yesterday vs the B-Team of Leicester.
Nevertheless, I really am not sure they would be able to be efficient in the same way in the latter stages of FA Cup, EL Cup or even PL games vs the big Guns if Kane is too tired or injured.
Levy and Poch are both responsible as it now appears that we won’t sign anyone.
A few weeks ago, I read an article on SC that mentioned that Poch had some influence on Levy’s decisions regarding our players and recruitment policy.
I still haven’t seen a proof of that.
For example, Poch doesn’t want Townsend any more but Levy is playing hardball with Newcastle
to get £14 M from the AT’s sale.
If we were serious regarding negotiations and Poch having some influence on Levy, he would tell him to take maybe £10M or £12M.
And re-use this money to help to fund the recruitment of a second striker.
Here is my point of view about the targets we have been linked to in this transfer window.
Berahino.
It seems less and less likely we will sign him.
Especially because Townsend doesn’t want to go at WBA to reduce the bill.
Wissam Ben Yedder.
He is not for sale this winter market.
Toulouse president Olivier Sadran made it clear he could leave in the summer but he wouldn’t let him go now. Sadran made it clear Ben Yedder is the most important player to save Toulouse from relegation this year.
I know the french Ligue 1 quite well and this guy clearly isn’t good enough to achieve what we are looking for.
Mishy Batshuayi
He is not for sale this winter market.
Marseille is in a similar situation as spurs.
Batshuayi is the only centre forward and are currently looking to sign a Batshuayi’s back up.
That’s why, Marseille are also interested in Ben Yedder.
Batshuayi is going nowhere this winter. If by some miracle he has to leave Marseille this winter, it is more likely to be for West Ham than to THFC.
Would be great to have it , but he won’t leave Marseille before this summer. We should have signed him when he was still playing at Standard de Liège.
Alexandre Lacazette.
He would be a great addition to our squad but he is not for sale this winter.
Lyon just sells his second striker Claudio Beauvue to Celta Vigo (just 6 months after Lyon signed him from Guingamp).
Lyon is in a similar situation as spurs.
Lacazette is the only centre forward and Lyon are currently looking to sign a Lacazette’s back up. That’s why Lyon are also interested in Ben Yedder. As Lyon needs to secure CL footie by the end of the season.
Newcastle are interested in him but he doesn’t want to go there.
Would be interesting to sign him in the summer if we catch CL football.
Jackson Martinez.
Even if Poch to be interested in him, he is probably too old (29 yo) for Levy.
Furthermore, we all know Levy wouldn’t spend 30 M Eur (£23M) for an unproven (in the PL) 29 years old player.
It seems we made an offer with amount mentioned above but I doubt this is a genuine piece of information.
According to what I have read on the internet , it seems the only solution we are left with is
Sandro Ramirez.
That might be good to sign him if Poch is interested.
Barcelona would be ok to let him go but want to add a buy-back clause in the contract.
Poch seems very reluctant about the buy-back clause.
Barça wants about £9M for him (release clause) and seems Spurs would be ok to pay that amount.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/636476/Tottenham-in-talks-Barcelona-Sandro-Ramirez-transfer-news-gossip
http://talksport.com/football/tottenham-revive-interest-barcelona-misfit-sandro-ramirez-160120181810
I wish we’ll sign him but on many aspects, this option is more risky.
We could have secured a good or great season with just £4M .
For reasons I don’t understand, we f.cked it up…
If some of you are ITK, it would be great to let us know why…
We have now less than 10 days to get this 2 nd striker situation fixed or we will condemned to
Pray that our Messiah Kane to still walk on the water for the next 4 months.
If it appears that Poch and Levy don’t even manage to get a decent striker on loan, I would understand that Kane to be very furious.
If he has to play most of the +30 games remaining ( I wish we play the 2 cups to go as far as possible),
in the best case scenario , he doesn’t injured himself by the end of the season but will be completely mentally and physically knackered for the Euro 2016 with England.
This would be a complete disrespect to such a loyal servant of this club him to prevent him
to play this Euro with England while exhausted.
In the worst case scenario, he injured himself at some point in the next 4 months and jeopardize his chances to play Euro and jeopardize the whole season of the full Squad.
He knows our whole season is too dependent on his fitness and efficiency
and I think that such a situation should happen in a Club like Tottenham.
But you all probably know only too well that we have failed so many times whereas
we have had everything to succeed.
Alex
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Austin's rumoured to be on 100k a week. Which is 5 million a year. Which is 20 million on a four year contract. I don't blame Poch and Levy for wanting to reserve that space in the wage budget for someone else.
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