King Concerns

[Bus-Conductor]

I just can't believe that he didn't think to himself that with his problems he would have been much better resting the summer ready for the biggest season in the clubs recent history and that the club didn't point this out strongly too.

I'm really pissed off. He is so important to us, especially in tough games.

 

[ShelfSide18]

It was always a toughie, but I'm sure he won't regret the decision to play on the biggest stage of all even if he did miss a chunk of the season - regrettable for us but I think he owed it to himself to go, and I think as fans we can't complain too much for what he goes through to turn out for Spurs.

At last though we have a solid defence without him, so we don't rely on him as much at past times.

 

[spursman85]

It was a gamble that has almost inevitably backfired. If it was all about Spurs as a team then Ledley should never have gone, but even in hindsight it would have been tough to deny King the chance to play at a World Cup, even if Spurs will suffer becasue of it.
I just hope he can recover soon and we don't miss him to much.

 

[Gilzeanking]

I just can't believe that he didn't think to himself that with his problems he would have been much better resting the summer ready for the biggest season in the clubs recent history and that the club didn't point this out strongly too.

I'm really pissed off. He is so important to us, especially in tough games.

Yea it actually makes it all worse to have forseen that Ledley going to the WC was a fucking stupid idea . It'd be much better if I was one of the numerous deluded in this thread (and others) living off their emotions
and creaming themselves over his ill advised participation ( then I'd have myself to blame )

yeh BC...double pissed off....

The only consolation is that the silly fool King insisted on going..so stupidity is pretty endemic on this subject .

 

[DC_Boy]

you people seriously think King wouldn't want to go to the world cup?

the delusion is with you, not us, who wanted our captain to have a chance to crown his career on the world's biggest stage

he got a groin injury - we all know ledley is susceptible to all sorts of injuries now, that was his last chance - it didn't work but it could have

king can break down at any time - it happened last season - it happened this summer - it'll doubtless happen again

 

[bomberH]

Was it you who predicted Man City would 5:1? You need a big dose of optimism.

I never predicted a 5-1 win to City, I think you may have mixed me up with someone else. I was pretty spot on about King though, unfortunately. Still, I'm glad he went in the sense that he at least got the chance and won't constantly have a bout of the 'what ifs'. Overall I'd have liked him to have rested though, especially in hindsight re our pile of shit campaign.

 

[Gilzeanking]

you people seriously think King wouldn't want to go to the world cup?

the delusion is with you, not us, who wanted our captain to have a chance to crown his career on the world's biggest stage

he got a groin injury - we all know ledley is susceptible to all sorts of injuries now, that was his last chance - it didn't work but it could have

king can break down at any time - it happened last season - it happened this summer - it'll doubtless happen again

I take your point DC...but the club has attempted to prevent King's England participation in the past .

However you choose to cut the cake...was King's participation in the WC a mistake ?...TOTALLY...Are we , the club who pays his enormous wages going to have to do without our best defender for the Vital CL qualifying games because of his WC participation ? ABSOFUCKINLOUTELY .

The club has been kicked in the balls ,by Capello ,the idiot player himself
and poor medical advice . I care about my club very much ,seeing them so comprehensively fucked over is heartbreaking .

 

[jondesouza]

I take your point DC...but the club has attempted to prevent King's England participation in the past .

However you choose to cut the cake...was King's participation in the WC a mistake ?...TOTALLY...Are we , the club who pays his enormous wages going to have to do without our best defender for the Vital CL qualifying games because of his WC participation ? ABSOFUCKINLOUTELY .

The club has been kicked in the balls ,by Capello ,the idiot player himself
and poor medical advice . I care about my club very much ,seeing them so comprehensively fucked over is heartbreaking .

But how well motivated would King have been on a personal level had the club put barriers to participating in the World Cup in his way? To me it was a chance absolutely worth taking?

 

[Coyboy]

I hate to say I told you so,

No you don't you live for it.

a) There was nothing we could do
b) He has and can well aggravate his groin at any time in training, gym wherever.
c)I don't begrudge Spurs not doing anything because there wasn't a lot they could have done or King for wanting to go to the WC.

It's one of those things.

 

[bubble07]

Controversial as this may sound but what about signing Gallasd on a bosman. Could do a lot worse. Premiership nad Champions league experience who is not completely past it at the age of 32 and could do a great job for 2 years. We should offer him 70,000 per week for 2 years with an option of a 3rd year if tyhe club chose to. For 2 years this would cost us 7m in total

Not bad for someone of his experience. A bit suspicious that no one has signed him yet but i think it would be a risk worth taking

 

[DC_Boy]

I take your point DC...but the club has attempted to prevent King's England participation in the past .

However you choose to cut the cake...was King's participation in the WC a mistake ?...TOTALLY...Are we , the club who pays his enormous wages going to have to do without our best defender for the Vital CL qualifying games because of his WC participation ? ABSOFUCKINLOUTELY .

The club has been kicked in the balls ,by Capello ,the idiot player himself
and poor medical advice . I care about my club very much ,seeing them so comprehensively fucked over is heartbreaking .

fair play to you GK for getting it right

it was a gamble that failed- but to call people deluded who supported king's decision is ridiculous

of course king wanted to go to the World cup, who was going to stop him, harry supported his claims - it's what players want to do

in retrospect it would be better it didn't happen, but King wanted to go, had he been blocked, he would not have been happy


AND CAPS WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

 

[Bus-Conductor]

No you don't you live for it.

a) There was nothing we could do
b) He has and can well aggravate his groin at any time in training, gym wherever.
c)I don't begrudge Spurs not doing anything because there wasn't a lot they could have done or King for wanting to go to the WC.

It's one of those things.

There was plenty his employers could do. There aren't many top clubs who would give a contract to a player with King's problems. I cannot believe that anyone concerned - the medical staff etc - wouldn't have been telling him that what he needed was to rest his knee over the summer. The bloke can't train FFS. Playing in the WC would be just about the worst possible scenario for his injury.

And the reason he is susceptible to other injuries is very likely because of the fact that he can't train like other pros.

In this case I am very pissed off to say I told you so, because I think he is a class apart and is vital when we have big games.

I think common sense should have prevailed here, not to mention loyalty to a very generous employer.

 

[Coyboy]

There was plenty his employers could do. There aren't many top clubs who would give a contract to a player with King's problems. I cannot believe that anyone concerned - the medical staff etc - wouldn't have been telling him that what he needed was to rest his knee over the summer. The bloke can't train FFS. Playing in the WC would be just about the worst possible scenario for his injury.

And the reason he is susceptible to other injuries is very likely because of the fact that he can't train like other pros.

In this case I am very pissed off to say I told you so, because I think he is a class apart and is vital when we have big games.

I think common sense should have prevailed here, not to mention loyalty to a very generous employer.

Well he took his trainer with him and he didn't do much running or other CV training in South Africa from what I can tell. He got injured playing football which has happened for Spurs and could well again.

They could not have stopped him going and even if technically they could, it would have been ridiculous and counter productive to do so if King really wanted to go.

You imply that King 'owes' Spurs a lot but it's a two way street, everyone agrees about his class and the idiotic resting by Ramos aside in 07/08 and early 08, King has played 20 or games a season. I am sure there are plenty of clubs who would rather manage King like this than lose him or release him. He has done a hell of a lot for Spurs just as vice-versa.

He got injured, he may be out for the qualifiers. Is this definite, I saw Redknapp saying he still has a groin problem? I don't begrudge Spurs from allowing him to go to South Africa and I certainly don't begrudge him going. It's one of those things, hopefully it won't cost us-I doubt it will, but then I don't think Dawson is an incompetent twat.

 

[Son_Of]

Just concern BC, just concern.

But - However...

England expects every man etc. Our country calleth and he rethpondeth.

I for one will be a very proud Yid, to see at leat two Spurs palyers lining up to start our World Cup campaign off.

What will be will be next season. In fact it could be a good thing being as King has only really looked like playing regularly when the big games came rolling up, and beyond that, the lure of the World Cup squad.

If he can get through up to seven games as first choice, rest assured we'll see the benefits of that accomplishment next season.

england can do one. ledley king's playing time is very limited and we should veto him pissing away any of it in internationals

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

I should imagine Ledley's England career is now over. Shame the World Cup panned out the way it did for him but my main concern is seeing him in a Spurs shirt in the league and Champions League.

Wonder how much of a part Daws will get to play in England's future though?

 

[midoNdefoe]

I should imagine Ledley's England career is now over. Shame the World Cup panned out the way it did for him but my main concern is seeing him in a Spurs shirt in the league and Champions League.

Wonder how much of a part Daws will get to play in England's future though?

Hopefully a damn sight more than the fucknut they call Upson!

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Well he took his trainer with him and he didn't do much running or other CV training in South Africa from what I can tell. He got injured playing football which has happened for Spurs and could well again.

They could not have stopped him going and even if technically they could, it would have been ridiculous and counter productive to do so if King really wanted to go.

You imply that King 'owes' Spurs a lot but it's a two way street, everyone agrees about his class and the idiotic resting by Ramos aside in 07/08 and early 08, King has played 20 or games a season. I am sure there are plenty of clubs who would rather manage King like this than lose him or release him. He has done a hell of a lot for Spurs just as vice-versa.

He got injured, he may be out for the qualifiers. Is this definite, I saw Redknapp saying he still has a groin problem? I don't begrudge Spurs from allowing him to go to South Africa and I certainly don't begrudge him going. It's one of those things, hopefully it won't cost us-I doubt it will, but then I don't think Dawson is an incompetent twat.

You're starting to sound like a hyperbolic old woman. There's no need to froth at every thing I say or hang on to my every word.

Have I actually ever even called Dawson an incompetent twat ? I may have called him slow, clumsy, unintelligent, ponderous to name but a few but have I actually ever called him an incompetent twat ?

 

[Coyboy]

Yes.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Yes.

when ?

 

[Coyboy]

Back in 2007, but I can recall you saying things similar more recently and always going on about that other incompetent twat Jol regularly playing him as if that was a bad thing when we finished fifth twice and now fourth with him as a regular.