Lamela

[ilikeost]

I'm quite sure that the situaiton has nothing to do with Tim... He is injured.

 

[Shea]

I'm quite sure that the situaiton has nothing to do with Tim... He is injured.

Not everything has to be a mystery conspiracy

Maybe our statement that he's had a persistent injury means that he's just been carrying a knock and we're prehab bing him to make sure it doesn't become a long term issue and he comes back at his best

Why is everyone assuming there is more to this? Why does Tim have to be freezing him out or we have to be teaching him English before he can play?

Why is it so hard to believe he's just been carrying a knock and never quite got up to a level of fitness where he can safely play first team football?

Rose was out for a long time, as was Vertonghen - didn't mean there were sinister motives behind the scenes and now they're both fit they're both back in the starting line up.


No reason to believe anything different with Lamela

Or maybe it's something to do with the illuminati or alien abductions I dunno

 

[Spurz]

People here can't take anything as a fact. To them he is not injured but kidnapped, tied up and left in the broom closet only to be brought out at the end of the season to be thrown to the sea. Conspiracy theories to everything. Insane

 

[Spurger King]

Not everything has to be a mystery conspiracy

Maybe our statement that he's had a persistent injury means that he's just been carrying a knock and we're prehab bing him to make sure it doesn't become a long term issue and he comes back at his best

Why is everyone assuming there is more to this? Why does Tim have to be freezing him out or we have to be teaching him English before he can play?

Why is it so hard to believe he's just been carrying a knock and never quite got up to a level of fitness where he can safely play first team football?

Rose was out for a long time, as was Vertonghen - didn't mean there were sinister motives behind the scenes and now they're both fit they're both back in the starting line up.


No reason to believe anything different with Lamela

Or maybe it's something to do with the illuminati or alien abductions I dunno

I think after all the bullshit coming from AVB about Adebayor missing games due to injury, a lot of people have good reason to be a bit cynical about this.

When the club's official version of events turns out to be a pack of lies, it's hardly a massive leap to start distrusting subsequent 'official' updates on players.

He probably is just injured, but AVB set a precedent for lying about why a player wasn't being played.

 

[Kendall]

Same doesnt apply for Bentelb?

Bentaleb was great against Southampton, Stoke and Swansea in particular. So erm, same applies mate. You have to impress when you get your opportunity. Nobody in the country has spoken about any of Lamela's showings, even from the bench, as being anything impressive.

 

[dagraham]

For all Spurs' fuck ups, this has to be the most frustrating one for me of recent times.

This time we can't pin this fuck up on 'dodgy refs' or 'other teams', it's solely on us for our mismanagement.

Has the potential to be a big fuck up but to be honest mate, it doesn't even make the top 5.... It's certainly below sacking Redknapp and replacing him with Mr. Immense Dimensions. Or sacking Jol during a match and replacing him with someone who can barely speak English. Or Selling Keane and Berbatov and replacing them with Pav and Fraizer Campbell.....

But coming in at undisputed No.1 pop pickers, is having a caretaker manager for 18 months and then appointing a manager with all the charisma of a wet lettuce at the end of it.

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

Has the potential to be a big fuck up but to be honest mate, it doesn't even make the top 5.... It's certainly below sacking Redknapp and replacing him with Mr. Immense Dimensions. Or sacking Jol during a match and replacing him with someone who can barely speak English. Or Selling Keane and Berbatov and replacing them with Pav and Fraizer Campbell.....

But coming in at undisputed No.1 pop pickers, is having a caretaker manager for 18 months and then appointing a manager with all the charisma of a wet lettuce at the end of it.

haha fair points mate

 

[Spurger King]

Has the potential to be a big fuck up but to be honest mate, it doesn't even make the top 5.... It's certainly below sacking Redknapp and replacing him with Mr. Immense Dimensions. Or sacking Jol during a match and replacing him with someone who can barely speak English. Or Selling Keane and Berbatov and replacing them with Pav and Fraizer Campbell.....

But coming in at undisputed No.1 pop pickers, is having a caretaker manager for 18 months and then appointing a manager with all the charisma of a wet lettuce at the end of it.

And you didn't even mention us spending £17m on David Bentley.

 

[Kendall]

I don't see why people are talking of fuck ups etc. The guy has been here less than a year.

He cost 30m. There's no chance of him getting out of his contract early. Fee alone dictates that Spurs will persevere.

 

[dagraham]

And you didn't even mention us spending £17m on David Bentley.

Christ, I forgot about that.

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

I don't see why people are talking of fuck ups etc. The guy has been here less than a year.

He cost 30m. There's no chance of him getting out of his contract early. Fee alone dictates that Spurs will persevere.

It's a fuck up as we're not befitting from his undeniable talent...

Regardless if he cost £3 million or £30 million, point is that his talent far surpasses any of our attacking midfield options bar say Eriksen.

I'll reiterate, if we don't get top 4, Lamela's misuse will be a factor to consider IMO.

 

[Kendall]

It's a fuck up as we're not befitting from his undeniable talent...

Regardless if he cost £3 million or £30 million, point is that his talent far surpasses any of our attacking midfield options bar say Eriksen.

I'll reiterate, if we don't get top 4, Lamela's misuse will be a factor to consider IMO.

There has been no misuse in my eyes. He's been injured since December. I would agree with this kicking, screaming and misuse claim if he'd been fit, but people are getting their knickers in a twist over sweet fuck all.

When Lamela is back fit, I am confident he will play a part.

 

[SteveH]

I don't see why people are talking of fuck ups etc. The guy has been here less than a year.

He cost 30m. There's no chance of him getting out of his contract early. Fee alone dictates that Spurs will persevere.

Where does one start? - social media + 20-35 yo users + Spurs in-built pessimism.

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

There has been no misuse in my eyes. He's been injured since December. I would agree with this kicking, screaming and misuse claim if he'd been fit, but people are getting their knickers in a twist over sweet fuck all.

When Lamela is back fit, I am confident he will play a part.

Newcastle at home. That was the defining moment for me.

Why AVB never started him will forever puzzle me.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I don't see why people are talking of fuck ups etc. The guy has been here less than a year.

He cost 30m. There's no chance of him getting out of his contract early. Fee alone dictates that Spurs will persevere.

THIS!

I think fans forget who our chairman is sometimes! No player we want to keep leaves us without the fee being set high and no player we want to get rid of leaves without us getting our money back.

 

[Kendall]

Newcastle at home. That was the defining moment for me.

Why AVB never started him will forever puzzle me.

Meh, maybe, that was a game where we hardly struggled to create chances and their keeper was MOM, so I don't know if we missed him or not.

But he would have, IMO, had to have come in for Eriksen, because he was playing more central against Sheriff. Townsend had just been MOM again a couple of weeks previously. So I really don't see why he would've been dropped because Lamela served up a decent game against some Moldovans, but there you go.

One game, 2 days after a midweek 90 min run out shouldn't define anything for a 21 year old and if he hasn't got the mental streength to cope with that decision, then I would worry about his future at the top of the game.

Thankfully, I don't think it is defining in any sense.

 

[Shea]

I think after all the bullshit coming from AVB about Adebayor missing games due to injury, a lot of people have good reason to be a bit cynical about this.

When the club's official version of events turns out to be a pack of lies, it's hardly a massive leap to start distrusting subsequent 'official' updates on players.

He probably is just injured, but AVB set a precedent for lying about why a player wasn't being played.

But then equally one incident with a player and a coach fairly obviously with personal qualities that lend themselves to arguments and sulking doesn't mean we should automatically assume something is amiss behind the official statement every time someone is injured - especially when there is no real reason to think something is amiss

I don't personally remember AVB claiming Ade was injured if I'm honest - it always seemed apparent that he had fallen out with him and indeed BAE and the Bale 'injury' situation was easily explained with the pending transfer and amount of money at stake

I've not seen any reason to believe Lamela and Sherwood have fallen out or to believe that he's not suffering with an injury. He came back and played in a reserve match and most likely had a small flare up and has been rested for further rehab for precautionary purposes.

Every quote I've ever seen from Sherwood suggests he's part of his plans and just wanting him to be fully fit and at his best and it makes perfect since not to rush a young player back too soon both for his confidence and so as the avoid the risk of turning an acute short term nagging injury into a chronic long term issue

Ok fans may have grown suspicious due to the AVB/Ade incident but that doesn't mean we have to scream foul every time someone is out of the picture with an injury for any extended period of time

 

[King of Otters]

Newcastle at home. That was the defining moment for me.

Why AVB never started him will forever puzzle me.

AVB ruined Lamela. Poor kid. World class talent, come to a second rate club and have your career stunted by a third rate manager.

Gad, we suck.

 

[Kendall]

THIS!

I think fans forget who our chairman is sometimes! No player we want to keep leaves us without the fee being set high and no player we want to get rid of leaves without us getting our money back.

Yes. We will even hold the player to get a fee until he leaves on a free (Bentley)!

History suggests that Lamela will either be here until summer 2018 when he leaves on a free or won't be sold unless a bid of at least 25m comes in, which is unlikely right now.

 

[dagraham]

Newcastle at home. That was the defining moment for me.

Why AVB never started him will forever puzzle me.

Yeah, I'll never understand it. Doesn't necessarily mean he would have had a stormer and gone on from there though. It may just be that he simply hasn't settled off the pitch and is struggling.

For all we know, he's unbelievably homesick and wants out and we are trying to fix things so he will be able to play his best football next season.

I do think his transfer (and all of our summer dealings in a way) highlights how suddenly having a load of money to spend and spunking it like a virgin at an orgy is not always the best way to go about it. Potential transfers have to be assessed on many things as well as ability, such as sutiablity to the team and character and ability to acclimatise to a new culture and league etc.

I'm just speculating re Lamela though but the point still stands. In fact for a club like ours where resources are finite its even more important to make the right choices.