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Mullers

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Unrealistic fantasy talk

Suppose he had wanted Pirlo, Iniesta, Messi, Ronaldo should we just have bankrupted the club to satisfy the manager?

You need to support Liverpool mate, the place where they pay 35m for Carroll, 16m for Downing, 20m for Henderson
Tell it to Levy not to me.
 

felmani26

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It should be up to AVB how he spends his transfer fund, he wanted Moutinho if he costs 30 million, then he costs 30 million, he wanted willan and he wanted LD. Levy didn't get any of those,

So again I am going to ask why Levy should not be judged by the standard he set his managers?
Jol got 5th twice, it wasn't good enough, Redknapp got fourth but no CL qualification, so not good enough, all were sacked, why does Levy escape?

Your business acumen holds no bounds!

Seriously, this thread has got to be a joke surely as this just screams pathetic whiny 'grass is greener' bullshit that has absolutely zero credence to it.

Honestly, some of you deserve a fucking Venky's stewardship!
 

VincenzoCoccotti

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@ Mullers


Leandro - 25m quoted
Willian - 20m quoted
Moutinho - 30m quoted

Where would the 75m to satisfy AVB's whims come from with a 35k capacity stadium?

shirt buttons? bars of chocolate? monopoly money

Fuck me I really do think you ARE Peter Ridsdale
 

Mullers

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@ Mullers


Leandro - 25m quoted
Willian - 20m quoted
Moutinho - 30m quoted

Where would the 75m to satisfy AVB's whims come from with a 35k capacity stadium?

shirt buttons? bars of chocolate? monopoly money

Fuck me I really do think you ARE Peter Ridsdale
Moutinho was affordable if Willan and LD are too expensive move onto the next targets, simple.
 

ryantegan

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I nearly headbutted a fellow yid today. Im ashamed. For that reason Im gonna give spurs a break for a bit. The timings probably right anyway
 

StartingPrice

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Yep, he gets on my tits sometimes but deep down, I know he IS a very good chairman.

My club is in safe hands and ready for My boy and the next generation to support and enjoy.

City/Chelsea could literally go under over night. Deep down, I know their success is manufactured, cheating and immoral.

Both two bob clubs.

Graysonti - that is possibly the calmest, most rational post I have ever seen you make :) Deserves a rep.

It should be up to AVB how he spends his transfer fund, he wanted Moutinho if he costs 30 million, then he costs 30 million, he wanted willan and he wanted LD. Levy didn't get any of those,

So again I am going to ask why Levy should not be judged by the standard he set his managers?
Jol got 5th twice, it wasn't good enough, Redknapp got fourth but no CL qualification, so not good enough, all were sacked, why does Levy escape?


The bit I agree with is, as I said at the end of last summer's tranasfer window - Levy should either choose a manager who will work with a DOF and provide one, or choose a more traditional British style manager and trust him with transfers.

The argument you are making is irrelevant becuase Levy holds executicive power and isn't going to sack himself, and I can't see Lewis overlooking all the good he has done for a few transfer window mishaps (he probably doesn't even know what the transfer window is).
 

Mullers

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Graysonti - that is possibly the calmest, most rational post I have ever seen you make :) Deserves a rep.




The bit I agree with is, as I said at the end of last summer's tranasfer window - Levy should either choose a manager who will work with a DOF and provide one, or choose a more traditional British style manager and trust him with transfers.

The argument you are making is irrelevant becuase Levy holds executicive power and isn't going to sack himself, and I can't see Lewis overlooking all the good he has done for a few transfer window mishaps (he probably doesn't even know what the transfer window is).
Just posing the questions for debate purposes.
 

felmani26

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I nearly headbutted a fellow yid today. Im ashamed. For that reason Im gonna give spurs a break for a bit. The timings probably right anyway

It's all been hectic recently and culminated yesterday evening to which we will still be talking about for a good few weeks to come.

I think for once, the international break is a welcome one!
 

crippledrat

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@ Mullers


Leandro - 25m quoted
Willian - 20m quoted
Moutinho - 30m quoted

Where would the 75m to satisfy AVB's whims come from with a 35k capacity stadium?

shirt buttons? bars of chocolate? monopoly money

Fuck me I really do think you ARE Peter Ridsdale

Yes, but we've raised almost £50m selling our two best players. Besides, we agreed a fee with Porto for Moutinho but for whatever reason, it did not happen.

How long have we been needing a striker? It's the same every transfer window. Levy goes to Spain with a £30m in a briefcase to sign one and...
 

felmani26

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Moutinho was affordable if Willan and LD are too expensive move onto the next targets, simple.

The fact is Mullers is that you, along with everyone else here have not got a clue of how our finances dictate these proposed deals so it's simply opinion coupled with frustration that is driving you to state the we should just pay what these clubs wanted, irrespective of the implications on this club.
 

VincenzoCoccotti

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Yes, but we've raised almost £50m selling our two best players. Besides, we agreed a fee with Porto for Moutinho but for whatever reason, it did not happen.

How long have we been needing a striker? It's the same every transfer window. Levy goes to Spain with a £30m in a briefcase to sign one and...

Dembele 15m
Ade 5m
Lloris 8m
Vertonghen 10m
Dempsey 6m
Sig 7m

Thats the 50m spent

All decent players

We were unlucky with Moutinho but any player that is 15% owned by the reptile Joorbachian and represented by Zahavi is going to be the transfer from hell to pull off, dealing with those 2 probably aged Levy 10 years
 

Mullers

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The fact is Mullers is that you, along with everyone else here have not got a clue of how our finances dictate these proposed deals so it's simply opinion coupled with frustration that is driving you to state the we should just pay what these clubs wanted, irrespective of the implications on this club.
You should at least read some of my previous posts in this thread.
 

Reshep

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It should be up to AVB how he spends his transfer fund, he wanted Moutinho if he costs 30 million, then he costs 30 million, he wanted willan and he wanted LD. Levy didn't get any of those,

So again I am going to ask why Levy should not be judged by the standard he set his managers?
Jol got 5th twice, it wasn't good enough, Redknapp got fourth but no CL qualification, so not good enough, all were sacked, why does Levy escape?

Just to be clear on your question. Are you asking why people are not judging Levy as a failure when we do not reach the CL and you want everyone to judge him in the same way that our managers are being judged?

If this is the case then I think it is a bit simplistic. Purely because Levys involvement within the club is not directly to do with the football side of the club (whereas the managers is), in fact I would say that he is mostly focusing on the business side of the club whilst maintaining an overview of the club as a whole

In that respect I don't think you can judge him by the standards that would be used to judge a manager as clearly they have different roles within the club and therefore different objectives (although their goals should be aligned as with any employee within a Club, business or organisation).

Look we all wanted a marquee signing like Moutinho after Modric and VDV left and I am not happy with our overall business this summer but I am not going to allow this to cloud my judgement of the job that Levy has done. You cannot deny that Levy has moved the club forwards and is still continuing to do this through his ambition and vision that has already delivered a £60m training centre and looks set to deliver a new stadium which will allow us to safeguard our future.
 

crippledrat

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Dembele 15m
Ade 5m
Lloris 8m
Vertonghen 10m
Dempsey 6m
Sig 7m

Thats the 50m spent

All decent players

We were unlucky with Moutinho but any player that is 15% owned by the reptile Joorbachian and represented by Zahavi is going to be the transfer from hell to pull off, dealing with those 2 probably aged Levy 10 years

£50m for our two best players, plus Kranjcar, Corluka, Dos Santos, Bassong...(I must admit my heart dropped a little when we signed Clint Dempsey).

But anyway, my major concern is that we haven't replaced Modric properly (which Moutinho was clearly pencilled in to do). At the moment, we seem to be a team full of athletes with no real composure. My only wish now is that Huddlestone gets fit and has a decent run of games, as he is the only player in our squad capable or dictating play ala Carrick and Modric.
 

Mullers

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Just to be clear on your question. Are you asking why people are not judging Levy as a failure when we do not reach the CL and you want everyone to judge him in the same way that our managers are being judged?

If this is the case then I think it is a bit simplistic. Purely because Levys involvement within the club is not directly to do with the football side of the club (whereas the managers is), in fact I would say that he is mostly focusing on the business side of the club whilst maintaining an overview of the club as a whole

In that respect I don't think you can judge him by the standards that would be used to judge a manager as clearly they have different roles within the club and therefore different objectives (although their goals should be aligned as with any employee within a Club, business or organisation).

Look we all wanted a marquee signing like Moutinho after Modric and VDV left and I am not happy with our overall business this summer but I am not going to allow this to cloud my judgement of the job that Levy has done. You cannot deny that Levy has moved the club forwards and is still continuing to do this through his ambition and vision that has already delivered a £60m training centre and looks set to deliver a new stadium which will allow us to safeguard our future.
Not really CL but transfer business, he puts the bids he does the negotiating, that's part of his job. I've already said that Levy has done some good stuff and I can live with what we bought in the transfer window, if a player is too expensive then fair enough.

But as a fan looking from the outside, I wouldn't say that AVB has been backed and supported fully by the chairman, and the CL qualification he is demanding from AVB I believe is unfair because he is expected to do it with a weaker squad than last season.
 

Reshep

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Not really CL but transfer business, he puts the bids he does the negotiating, that's part of his job. I've already said that Levy has done some good stuff and I can live with what we bought in the transfer window, if a player is too expensive then fair enough.

But as a fan looking from the outside, I wouldn't say that AVB has been backed and supported fully by the chairman, and the CL qualification he is demanding from AVB I believe is unfair because he is expected to do it with a weaker squad than last season.

I think you make a fair point about the expectation of AVB and the strength of our squad and I agree with that, its tough to expect CL when the squad is weaker.

What has happened this summer to make you think that Levy has not backed AVB?
 

am_yisrael_chai

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Ok the window is now closed so I guess we should hear about the progress Levy has made on the stadium ? If the reason we can't afford a decent striker is our match day revenues then his top priority should be getting the stadium financed. If he has made no progress on this because of his transfer wheeler dealing then we should be really concerned. So will we get an announcement on the stadium this week ?
 

crippledrat

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I think you make a fair point about the expectation of AVB and the strength of our squad and I agree with that, its tough to expect CL when the squad is weaker.

What has happened this summer to make you think that Levy has not backed AVB?

I refuse to believe AVB said to Levy at the start of the window: "I want Clint Dempsey!".

Dempsey must have been Plan G or something. It just reeks of a panic buy.
 

Mullers

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I think you make a fair point about the expectation of AVB and the strength of our squad and I agree with that, its tough to expect CL when the squad is weaker.

What has happened this summer to make you think that Levy has not backed AVB?
He hasn't bought Moutinho for starters, that's the player AVb wanted the most. he hasn't bought willan, he hasn't bought LD, he hasn't moved onto other targets in time. Regardless of whether Verts is a top player, Levy got the deal well underway before we had a manager at the club, it should be up to the manager how he spends the transfer funds,
 

Reshep

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I refuse to believe AVB said to Levy at the start of the window: "I want Clint Dempsey!".

Dempsey must have been Plan G or something. It just reeks of a panic buy.

haha yeah i agree with that also. The thing is, Moutinho was AVBs top target and although we did not manage to do the deal Levy did try abd get it done and it did not happen for whatever reason. Surely this showed positive intent from Levy with respect to backing AVB?

Real shame that we do have a glaringly obvious missing link in our midfield though as a result of missing out on Moutinho.
 
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