SteveH
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cough! Injuries? Kaboul, BEA, Parker and Dembele.
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cough! Injuries? Kaboul, BEA, Parker and Dembele.
BringBack_leGin
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I'm arguining against the point that our owners are to blame. Do you blame them for injuries?
You're cutting him extra slack for injuries. I forgot that we never lost one key player to injury in the previous four seasons.
At centre back he could quite easily mitigate the loss of Kaboul by playing Dawson instead of the man who can't move, and if he put Naughton at left back then Vertonghen could partner him. That way you have a very good CB pairing (Not a man who can't move and a hot prospect who I've noticed never tackles and doesn't track runners) and a weaker LB spot, so you've only weaken 1 position as a result of the Ekotto and Kaboul injuries, not 3.
Hudd in for Dembele might be less than ideal, but the guy was good enough to start most if the season as we finished fourth.
How often have we played two tough tacklers in our recent history? So would you drop Sandro for Parker?
Avb is making avoidable mistakes with every team selection, and even more with his subs (why the fuck does Clint finish every game?). That's nothing to do with the owners.
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I don't think it's a lack of ambition, I actually think Levy needs to get realistic and start looking at sensible transfer targets rather than wasting time chasing after players that are out of our reach. I am all for being ambitious but this shouldn't be at the expense of a workable strategy.
Take Dempsey as an example. It reeks of a last minute panic buy because our other options fell through and it seems to happen quite a lot with us. There are realistic options out there and Levy's focus should be on appointing the right person/strategy to find them and not on getting a one off deal of the century.
Having said all of that I think we all need to apply a bit of perspective and realise that we are only 11 games into the season, have been pretty unlucky with injuries and yet are within touching distance of 4th. We have had plenty of set backs over the past 10 years but the overall improvement under Levy is staggering.
RuislipSpur
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There was a lot of this shit on Twitter today. Our fans are starting to sound more and more like them up the road every day.
nav007_2000
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I think we all do. A world class player that can change a game. We no longer have any players like that.I miss VDV so much
CJMurray
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Agree that the squads not much weaker, but its just through injuries this season that it's been highlighted how weak it actually is. If we'd had Modric and Parker injured for large periods last season like we have had this season in Dembele and Parker then we would have been lamenting how weak the squad was as well.
nav007_2000
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How do we have the best chairman in the league?
Which chairman would sack a manager (JOL) that got their team fifth place twice, playing attractive football. It was the first time in decades we were onto something special. It was a bad mistake and we were shocking under Ramos.
He then gets Harry in and sacks him when he was the best manager that we had in decades. If Harry would have been given the necessary funds, we would have challenged for the title in a few seasons. Unfortunately that wasnt to be and he got sacked.
We then sell our best two players and the chairman who is supposidly meant to be the best chairman in the league, decides to sign players that the new manager doesnt want.
Levy in my opinion, should stick to being a chairman and leave the transfer negotiations and the football side to a sporting director or someone who knows what he is doing.
BringBack_leGin
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Yes, this worked brilliantly when we ended up with £30m worth of Bentley and Pavlyuchenko.
nav007_2000
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How did Modric, Bale, Lennon and Berbatov work out?
SteveH
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Yes originally I did get the wrong end of stick - my bad
And yes I do think the injuries have impacted on our current form
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I agree Levy and co bare very little of the blame for this.
This doesn't matter.
Liverpool is one of the most widely supported clubs across the globe, think 4th of top of my head, but without a 60,000+ stadium and all the revenue that brings, and without Champions League football to make up for the lack of this stadium, profits have hardly been awe inspiring.
As with Liverpool, Spurs long term competitiveness with the bigger clubs is getting a nice, new big stadium built and all the money that will rake in.
Without a big stadium being filled every week, with the majority expensive season ticket holders, or CL football, or an owner willing to plough all their own money into the club, clubs like Spurs, Newcastle, Liverpool, Everton etc will never be able to spend more than £10m net on players a season because they simply don't have the money to do so.
What these clubs do instead is have to sell players to raise funds to re-invest into the playing squad but the problem with this is that it sometimes means having to sell some of your better players to raise the kind of money that is needed.
If FFP is actually implemented and enforced then a new Stadium is even more important for Spurs/Liverpool etc as you are only allowed to spend on players what you make as profit as a club. Going by the last sets of accounts for these teams that would be basically nothing as these clubs didn't turn much of a profit.
Unless you have a sugar daddy, CL every season or a massive stadium, there is very little money available to spend on players unfortunately unless you sell existing players to raise funds. Thats the shit reality of it I'm afraid.
I feel some of you don't really grasp the reality of the situation Levy finds himself in and don't really just how fantastic Tottenham have done the last 3 years given the financial restrictions they have compared to the other top 4 clubs.
Its been nothing short of a miracle just looking at the financial side of things and surely Levy and the owners deserve a lot of credit for that?
BringBack_leGin
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Lennon was signed before Comolli was appointed. Comolli was appointed on 8 September 2005, Lennon signed the previous June.
It's quite well known that Levy handled the Modric negotiations, having travelled to Croatia specifically for this purpose even though the season hadn't ended. Berbatov was a well known quantity already having done it in Germany for years, and judging by Levy's record on great players for low fees since, I'm pretty sure he's responsible for how cheap we signed the guy.
Bale was the hottest prospect in the country, everyone wanted him. It didn't take Comolli to spot him, though I will accept that I've read on a few occasions that Comolli was largely responsible for how we managed to get him.
Comolli assured Levy that it was okay to sell Carrick because he'd signed us a superior replacement in Zokora for half the price.
Comolli replaced Robinson with a goalkeeper even more error prone and probably only a touch more able to do the exceptional in Gomes. He brought in Bentley to replace Lennon, Giovani to replace Keane, Pavlyuchenko to replace Berbatov. This cost almost all of the money brought in by the Berbakeane sales.
Comolli signed us Bent when we already had Berba, Keane, Mido and Defoe.
There is only one player who I can in any good faith credit as an unmitigated successful Comolli signing, Ekotto. Never heard of him before, didn't cost much and became a great player. Otherwise, Comolli was a failure.
I'd take a DoF again, I'm not against it, but I don't put any stock in the regime based on our previous experience of the tactic.
BringBack_leGin
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I agree that injuries have impacted, but they've impacted far more than they should have in my opinion. I think that you got the brunt of my sarcasm just because I'm generally wound up by people talking out of their arses about the state Levy has apparently left our squad is, as if he's caused us to go from title contenders to relegation candidates.
StartingPrice
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4th Post: Oh this again, every time we lose...sums it up.
With a large number of players out and still in a transitional period we were about as much deserving of something out of that game as Citeh, away the title holders and richest club in the World (give or take). It was Adebayor's first start, FFS.
Give it a rest, Gray, I haven't bothered negging you...but this is truly pathetic, even by your standards.
With a large number of players out and still in a transitional period we were about as much deserving of something out of that game as Citeh, away the title holders and richest club in the World (give or take). It was Adebayor's first start, FFS.
Give it a rest, Gray, I haven't bothered negging you...but this is truly pathetic, even by your standards.
jonathanhotspur
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Maybe we're too harsh on our own fans at times. After all, Everton were booed off at half time yesterday and City were booed off at half time today.
Seriously, finishing 4th is a catastrophe ? A think we've managed on what 2 occasions inclusive in the premier league ? Even given that at one point we were sailing clear in 3rd place, under the guidance of the man who so "catastrophically" fucked up we ONLY got 4th/. Get a fucking grip, until Martin Jol turned we were a mid to upper table team and had been for years. In the space of 6 years we've turned into a team that regularly finishes 4th of 5th barring the appearance of your mate Juande. There was no catastrophe last spring, just a failure of over achieving.
It's an interesting theory but I'd be astonished if the bloke signing away millions of pounds doesn't take a cursory interest at the least in who he's spending the money on.
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