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Levys policy re Carrick Keane and Berbatoff + any other offs

whitestreak

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Whilst we are virtually owned by one of the top five owners in terms of wealth in the UK (we were no 2) prior to QPR
I take a contrary probably unpopular view that Levy is absolutely right in squeezing as much money as he can for all his transfers and am less worried about being perceived as a selling club than I am about improving the total squad. How else can we ever hope to challenge the big 4 without continually upgrading the playing staff? Pragmatically that costs loads of money.
I remember a bunch idealists in football when Roman Abramovic bought Chelsea and started throwing his wallet repeating the inane mantra that you cant buy the premiership
well that went the way of all other myths like the tooth fairy

Sure you can get a genius like the mob up the road did that can do it on a shoestring but Wenger for all his faults is pretty unique in what he’s done consistently


Now I realise that this is heresy to some on this board but if we sell barb to Manu which is likely and pocket £30m + I’m for it. What happens if the incredible sulk breaks his leg or goes the way of Dean Richards unlikely I grant you but still possible we d be mega upset if we kept him and not too unhappy if we didn’t and had just trousered £30m

So if he can raise over £80m by selling Keane Berby the Sunderland four Robbo and a bunch of the rest of the deadwood id be happy especially if he blew the next batch
out for £200m and continually upgraded as we went

In order to obtain the holy grail of consistently finishing in the top 4 we have to compete with clubs that have greater capacity in seating Manu and Arsenes babies or more dough Chelsea so its only pool who are currently a similar size although even the most fervent supporter and I’m one!
has to acknowledge that they are a huge club both in achievement and following over the last 40 years

If you cant match these guys financially you have no hope IMHO of ever consistently matching them on the pitch
I think Levy has done and is continuing to do an amazing job for the club and deserves all the support he can get
He’s demonstrated his ambition he has a ruthless streak (ask Jol) and he will get the Job done..

Give him a chance stay of his back and maybe we will all benefit from consistently getting into the top 4
Remember Rome wasn’t built in a day

"the future's so bright got to wear shades"




:shrug::shrug::shrug:
 

DogsOfWar

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The reality of this transfer window is that we have currently broken even with Keane, Chimbo, Robbo and Tainio and going for what must be best part of £30 million and getting Gomes, Modric and Dos Santos in for around the same.

That to me is a big improvement on the squad in key areas and, as a result, very good business.

I don't agree that selling Berbatov would be good business though, as like Carrick, we could not replace him. At the start of last season we only had 2 genuinely top class players in our first eleven and they were Berbs and King.
As a result it is no surprise to me that, assuming we get Bentley, Capel, Arshavin and Veloso, only two players will remain from that team with no prizes for guessing who.

Now we've balanced the books we can spend our transfer budget on these four knowing we will have a genuine top four contending team so all credit has to go to Levy/Commolli/Ramos for getting top dollar for our current players and spending it on upgrades all within about 9 months.
 

whitestreak

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The reality of this transfer window is that we have currently broken even with Keane, Chimbo, Robbo and Tainio and going for what must be best part of £30 million and getting Gomes, Modric and Dos Santos in for around the same.

That to me is a big improvement on the squad in key areas and, as a result, very good business.

I don't agree that selling Berbatov would be good business though, as like Carrick, we could not replace him. At the start of last season we only had 2 genuinely top class players in our first eleven and they were Berbs and King.
As a result it is no surprise to me that, assuming we get Bentley, Capel, Arshavin and Veloso, only two players will remain from that team with no prizes for guessing who.

Now we've balanced the books we can spend our transfer budget on these four knowing we will have a genuine top four contending team so all credit has to go to Levy/Commolli/Ramos for getting top dollar for our current players and spending it on upgrades all within about 9 months.


how about huntelaar for berby?
 

lukespurs7

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yep he's doing and has done a fantastic job, we don't get to see what goes on behind the scenes but from some of the deals he has got both buys and sales he must be one hell of a negotiator!!!!!

As much as i loved Keaneo, 20mil is a grand figure, mabye 5mil too high :) he is 28 which whist not being 'old' is nearer to the wrong side of his carrer.

It now all depends on who we bring in and weather Berby goes. If he stays and we bring in Bentley and a striker I will be extactic with how good our squad is. If he goes and we get Bentley mabye Capel aswell and a striker or 2 again I will be fairly happy. Hope Berby stays but whatever if we can now spend our transfer budget on at least 2 if not 3 top class players then we will have one hell of a squad and a different class of squad to what we have had before. Compare the likes of Bale to Lee.Y.P Gomes to Robbo Woodgate to Gardener Bentley?? to Routledge Modric to Davids Dos Santos to Malbranque and so it goes on. We have real top class players and give us 2 more we will have every reason to beleive in a potentiol top4 finish.!
 

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Levy is a legend and I respect him and the work he's done for spurs massively. We have continually upgraded our players and managers over the past 5 or whatever years and we are now on the verge of something big. Where 5 years ago we may have had one top player, we now have nearly a team full of players we wouldnt have dreamt of 5 years ago, or even 3 years ago.
 

striebs

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yep he's doing and has done a fantastic job, we don't get to see what goes on behind the scenes but from some of the deals he has got both buys and sales he must be one hell of a negotiator!!!!!

As much as i loved Keaneo, 20mil is a grand figure, mabye 5mil too high :) he is 28 which whist not being 'old' is nearer to the wrong side of his carrer.

It now all depends on who we bring in and weather Berby goes. If he stays and we bring in Bentley and a striker I will be extactic with how good our squad is. If he goes and we get Bentley mabye Capel aswell and a striker or 2 again I will be fairly happy. Hope Berby stays but whatever if we can now spend our transfer budget on at least 2 if not 3 top class players then we will have one hell of a squad and a different class of squad to what we have had before. Compare the likes of Bale to Lee.Y.P Gomes to Robbo Woodgate to Gardener Bentley?? to Routledge Modric to Davids Dos Santos to Malbranque and so it goes on. We have real top class players and give us 2 more we will have every reason to beleive in a potentiol top4 finish.!

Dos Santos is unproven in this league .

Malbranque is proven .

To intimate that Dos Santos is a step up on Malbranque is jumping the gun somewhat .


He's likely to get thrown in at the deep end as it is , lets not put him under unneccessary pressure .
 

hodspurs

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yep he's doing and has done a fantastic job, we don't get to see what goes on behind the scenes but from some of the deals he has got both buys and sales he must be one hell of a negotiator!!!!!

As much as i loved Keaneo, 20mil is a grand figure, mabye 5mil too high :) he is 28 which whist not being 'old' is nearer to the wrong side of his carrer.

It now all depends on who we bring in and weather Berby goes. If he stays and we bring in Bentley and a striker I will be extactic with how good our squad is. If he goes and we get Bentley mabye Capel aswell and a striker or 2 again I will be fairly happy. Hope Berby stays but whatever if we can now spend our transfer budget on at least 2 if not 3 top class players then we will have one hell of a squad and a different class of squad to what we have had before. Compare the likes of Bale to Lee.Y.P Gomes to Robbo Woodgate to Gardener Bentley?? to Routledge Modric to Davids Dos Santos to Malbranque and so it goes on. We have real top class players and give us 2 more we will have every reason to beleive in a potentiol top4 finish.!
the problem is keane was worth more than 20m to us..on and off the pitch..i just dont see how every one in this deal is a winner,keane and pool? defo,us? no way
 

hodspurs

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Dos Santos is unproven in this league .

Malbranque is proven .

To intimate that Dos Santos is a step up on Malbranque is jumping the gun somewhat .


He's likely to get thrown in at the deep end as it is , lets not put him under unneccessary pressure .
steed will be another big miss.hardest working midfielder we had last year and showed hes a team player by playing out of position for 2 year.
 

met was god

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IMO I think the key to this post lies in the last sentence - consistency.

Look at teams like Everton - IMO a squad with undoubtedly less talent than our own but a team with management in place who has patience with his squad (probably down to resources) but doesn't make wholesale changes year on year. As a result the team learns how to play with each other, gel as a unit and build a team ethic. Something you could argue that Spurs have not had in equal measure over a period of years. Is this down to the constant revolving door at Spurs???

However I agree over the last couple of years we have improved our squad little by little and the squad is the best we have had in ages! But lets get a couple of new signings in now to replace the departing masses and then work with what we have got - even the players like JJ and Zok that drive me up the wall - and then harvest the team spirit of the likes of Everton and then we will be in a position to challenge the top 4 on a consistent basis. As long as the likes of Manure and the Scousers leave our best players alone!!!:wink:
 

parklane_n17

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if mr levy brings in diego capel then u can call him a genius as seville wont let him come to us and im gutted tut
 

General Levy

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the problem is keane was worth more than 20m to us..on and off the pitch..i just dont see how every one in this deal is a winner,keane and pool? defo,us? no way

When it looked like Keane was going to be off the season before Berbatov came, they is no way we would have got even £10million for Keane. Berbatov made Keane look like the player Liverpool spent £20million on.

He is 30 in two years, £20million is the best deal we could have hoped for.
 

Kendall

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Wouldn't be overly fussed if we got Arshavin & Bentley, whilst selling Berbatov.

Last year we were very 1 dimensional and relied on Berbs/Keane a lot, I think Ramos is right to leave Berba out of recent friendlies because the TEAM needs to work together and I really think we could push on qwithout them, similar to when Henry left the scum & van Nistelrooy left Manure.
 

Real_madyidd

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When it looked like Keane was going to be off the season before Berbatov came, they is no way we would have got even £10million for Keane. Berbatov made Keane look like the player Liverpool spent £20million on.

He is 30 in two years, £20million is the best deal we could have hoped for.

Yeah! He would be 35 in seven years! We did great!

Bentley will be 30 in 7 years, not that it means anything.
 

Bingy

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RK has gone.....pushed or not but he must be respected for what he achieved at WHL.....It is childish to 'hold a grudge' when , in fact, after scoring MANY priceless goals over the last years.....we have also made a tidy profit on his sale (another crafty trick....?).
For those who are too immature to see what he did, in his time, get a life and keep your beady eyes on the squad....there must be some other player (a foreigner maybe? lol) to whom you can attach your vile....In the meantime.....Chocks away COYS
 

StockSpur

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For me the best business Levy does gets missed by the general populous.
5 yr contract for dawson, who even if he does pan out to be an average hard working donkey for real we will still get a sell 10 million for selling him on.
 

DeeJay_Yid

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Levy is a genius for what he's done.

The JOL saga got my knickers in a twist, but you must admit it is JUANDE who got the players in with a reputation.

Some refer to us as the Tottenham Project, and i for one am excited about the Magic Carpet Ride i am on.

When i saw Arshavin at the Euros, i must admit i had no idea who he was at the time. And i remember saying to me missus he's going to Barca or Real or Milan. Some great club.

And here he is in the same breath with us.

Love the Tottenham Project.
 

MarkinJapan

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For me the best business Levy does gets missed by the general populous.
5 yr contract for dawson, who even if he does pan out to be an average hard working donkey for real we will still get a sell 10 million for selling him on.

Yes, but he was already contracted until 2012, we've increased the money he's getting paid and only extended his contract by 1 year. That tells me we value him quite highly as if we were after money we didn't need to extend his contract at all!
 
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