Lloris speaks: 'Pochettino is not the problem'

[Gilzeanking]

. We keep saying we need change, but the softly-softly approach hasn't worked, we need the/a manager that is prepared to shake things up.

Yes , it would have been interesting to see Van Gaal's approach as he's something of a shaker upper I understand .It was a key advantage of his possible appointment for me . As you say , a shaking up is required to remove decades of Spurs minimum effort and softness .

The Prem is full of teams leaving everything on the field these days especially . The lower teams have learnt that extreme effort can be a route to Prem survival without buying top players . So its harder than ever to get results by doing the minimum .

 

[Blackcanary]

I don't think the players chose the captains, Pochettino did. I recall that he kept everyone waiting for about a week for the announcement, got asked by a number of impatient journalists pursuing mini-scoops and replied that he hadn't decided yet. I'm not 100% certain, but I have been under the strong impression that the manager appointed the captains.

I'm pretty sure Poch said he asked the players who they wanted to be captain and went for Kaboul as a result. Don't know if anyone can find some direct quotes...?

 

[Thfc28]

In a tongue & cheek way agree Loris to be captain but in a logical/common sense way as much as have greatest respect for him, no doubt.

It really needs to go to someone else.As is Loris supposed wait all game to finally get a chance to shout down someones ear
who is'nt in reach of him then does'nt make any sense to name him captain.Or is he going to run the length of the field every 5 mins to have direct influence. To have right impact sure got be someone else on the pitch.

Before say he's captain of France. Thats entirley different to our current circumstances surely at Spurs

Big Question is who though.

 

[crokey]

He's not exactly gonna say anything else is he haha? When have any of you publicly atttacked your boss?

 

[danielneeds]

I don't think the players chose the captains, Pochettino did. I recall that he kept everyone waiting for about a week for the announcement, got asked by a number of impatient journalists pursuing mini-scoops and replied that he hadn't decided yet. I'm not 100% certain, but I have been under the strong impression that the manager appointed the captains.

The players did not pick the captain as is being spouted, Poch did say to the media that he canvased the opinion of the players after Dawson left, and Kaboul was the pick of many of them, but I am sure there were other factors in his consideration. It was quite clearly not a straightforward democratic appointment though.

The interesting thing to be is whether Poch views Kaboul as an automatic starter regardless of the captaincy, or that is the main reason he seems to be first choice in his position.

 

[worcestersauce]

Wasn't there some ITK that Kaboul stood up and launched a rallying call to arms that convinced Poch he should be the captain.

 

[CornerPinDreamer]

http://archive.mehstg.com/captains.htm

interesting semi complete list of captains.. how we have fallen.. we had the likes of Dave Mackay once upon a time

 

[spursfan77]

Kaboul?

He'd probably be out of position...

 

[yankspurs]

Biggest joke in the world that he is not captain. Kaboul should be sold in January and Lloris made captain

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Wasn't there some ITK that Kaboul stood up and launched a rallying call to arms that convinced Poch he should be the captain.

No, you're thinking of Mel Gibson in Braveheart.

 

[Metalhead]

Yes , it would have been interesting to see Van Gaal's approach as he's something of a shaker upper I understand .It was a key advantage of his possible appointment for me . As you say , a shaking up is required to remove decades of Spurs minimum effort and softness .

The Prem is full of teams leaving everything on the field these days especially . The lower teams have learnt that extreme effort can be a route to Prem survival without buying top players . So its harder than ever to get results by doing the minimum .

Well LVG is a great manager but ironically he has issues of his own at Man U: proof that problems at a club can rarely be solved overnight. I think LVG will succeed, given time and I hope Poch will do the same.

 

[Metalhead]

Biggest joke in the world that he is not captain. Kaboul should be sold in January and Lloris made captain

My only reservation is whether a goalkeeper is the best option for a captain. I think that Lloris as a person would be very suitable as captain but stuck at the back of the field, would he be able to make it work?

 

[jolsnogross]

Btw the 'relegation fight' comment from him was obviously him making a point that the players haven't got any guts...before people start running with that instead of the main thrust/translation of his comments which is 'the players are pussies'.

He sees it all in front of him every game...imagine that! Torture.

I'd be interested if any French speakers could go to the source and check whether the interviewer mentioned relegation, or if he himself brought it up in response to a question about regretting his contract extension. That would be informative and give a sense of where Lloris thinks our current level is - just mid-table doldrums that can be managed or approaching crisis mode. "The players are pussies" or are too comfortable is clearly a concern of his, but an unprompted mention of a relegation fight goes beyond just the guts issue, and isn't really that illogical given our performances, points haul, and goals-per-game of late.

 

[yankspurs]

My only reservation is whether a goalkeeper is the best option for a captain. I think that Lloris as a person would be very suitable as captain but stuck at the back of the field, would he be able to make it work?

Somehow Madrid, Juventus, Italy, Spain, France, etc. make it work

 

[Metalhead]

Somehow Madrid, Juventus, Italy, Spain, France, etc. make it work

Fair enough. I have no issue whatsoever with Lloris and if it works elsewhere then it's all good.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Ledley King?

Gary Mabbutt
Steve Perryman

 

[ClintEastwould]

I'd be interested if any French speakers could go to the source and check whether the interviewer mentioned relegation, or if he himself brought it up in response to a question about regretting his contract extension. That would be informative and give a sense of where Lloris thinks our current level is - just mid-table doldrums that can be managed or approaching crisis mode. "The players are pussies" or are too comfortable is clearly a concern of his, but an unprompted mention of a relegation fight goes beyond just the guts issue, and isn't really that illogical given our performances, points haul, and goals-per-game of late.

It seems like at the moment the club just doesn't know what it is. You have the likes of Fazio going out and saying we could be title challengers with a few tweaks and then Hugo apparently says we'd do well to avoid a relegation battle.

 

[Artemis]

I'd be interested if any French speakers could go to the source and check whether the interviewer mentioned relegation, or if he himself brought it up in response to a question about regretting his contract extension. That would be informative and give a sense of where Lloris thinks our current level is - just mid-table doldrums that can be managed or approaching crisis mode. "The players are pussies" or are too comfortable is clearly a concern of his, but an unprompted mention of a relegation fight goes beyond just the guts issue, and isn't really that illogical given our performances, points haul, and goals-per-game of late.

The first post of this thread relates what you can read in l'Equipe as far as I can see. And indeed Lloris was "asked if he regretted extending his stay at Spurs due to the club's poor form".
He speaks about the players, the coach but not only as you can see.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Biggest joke in the world that he is not captain. Kaboul should be sold in January and Lloris made captain

Bigger than why did the chicken cross the road ?

 

[NEVILLEB]

You'd have to be a moron to keep blaming the Managers...AVB aside