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Krafty

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Given that the squad is the same as it is, and everyone is fit and healthy, who should we be sending out on loan to get some experience?

I reckon Taarabt definately needs regular games, especially in English football. It would be interesting to see how he progresses.

Mills, Archibald-Henville, Martin, Dervitte, perhaps even Gunter? Livermore, Button, perhaps Pekhart. Maybe even KPB to a promoted prem team?

We saw how much it helped O'Hara, perhaps it could help some of these guys.
 

Wsussexspur

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I was thinking Danny Rose might help his development to go on short term loan sometime next season to a top championship team if things go well then maybe we could extend it.
 

Bulletspur

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I was thinking Danny Rose might help his development to go on short term loan sometime next season to a top championship team if things go well then maybe we could extend it.
You beat me to it! Of all of our young ones, I think he and Taarabt and probably Kaboul (if he stays) would benefit with a view of getting into the first team squad in a year or so.
 

Kendall

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I don't think Gunter needs a loan. he's got plenty of experience already & he could be an important player as he can play both RB & LB.

Loan Rose back to Leeds :up:
 

Adam

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I dont think its of that much benefit to loan players out unless it is to other Premiership clubs. The gulf between the top league and the rest is now so great that players like Rose are probably better off playing against a lot of the reserve teams than in leagues 1 and 2 as i'm sure a lot of the reserve teams could beat those sides anyway. Giving them to the Championship may help, but if you look at Huddlestone as an example of a young player who has become established in our team, as well as i'm sure he did at Derby and Wolves, he has only really progressed when playing regularly in the Prem, and that it what the rest of our young players need. Send them all to Stoke and West Brom, and probably Hull i say.
 

Yid-ol

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i disagree a small point adam, yes the gulf is huge, but to a 16 yearold or 17 yearold the Championship is still good enough for them to learn still! as long as they are getting the games anyway, premiership clubs wouldnt gamble on or play these players and they would learn mroe by playing in the championship than in our reserves of U18's or what ever they go into!
 

Adam

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i disagree a small point adam, yes the gulf is huge, but to a 16 yearold or 17 yearold the Championship is still good enough for them to learn still! as long as they are getting the games anyway, premiership clubs wouldnt gamble on or play these players and they would learn mroe by playing in the championship than in our reserves of U18's or what ever they go into!

True, but in general its very very rare for a player of that age to go out on loan. Anyone 18 or under is probably better sticking with our U18 side, especially as they are playing in tournaments with U20 teams. Not sure how much use it would do someone like Parret to go out on loan to a team in League 1 or 2 with a shit pitch and be booted up in the air for 90 minutes as the 'seasoned' pro's give him a taste of professional football!
 

Yid-ol

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i do agree about the stat of some of the really lower leagues, but some of the championship pitches should be still decent enough! and it is rare for players that young to go out, but i feel that the competition and just general play will still be of higher standards in the championship than in our youths, might not be amazing play but i feel it would develep them alot more than playing agaisnt other youths
 

al_pacino

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All first-team football is of benefit, playing in games that mean something and oposing players that will give you a kick give youngsters the idea of competitive football.
 

ckafetz

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Look how much it benefited O'Hara. We should send a bunch of them out on loan next season to Championship teams.
 

AngerManagement

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I was thinking Danny Rose might help his development to go on short term loan sometime next season to a top championship team if things go well then maybe we could extend it.

I was thinking this is a better idea then a premiership side who is struggling.

At a top Championship side they will be playing a decent standard of football whilst playing in a winning team and having players around them with high confidence and people they can perform well against.

Better then playing in a team that hardly wins and they dont have possession of the ball enough for our loanies to develop their game. (could be argued that Davernport was shattered by his loan spell and Southampton)
 

Rupstoh

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Loans?? How about loan payments? No wonder the season ticket has gone up like a rocket!


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spursfan77

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I think sending any of the reserve lads like Pekhart, Rose, Devitte etc to a london club like QPR, Charlton or Palace in the Championship can only be benefical as they can stay in the capital, dont have to leave home (which some mentally weak players may strggle with) and would get valuable experience.

Mind you theres no point loaning a player out if he doesnt get any games (eg. Button) and just sits on the bench. I think we'd have to stipulate that any player leaving on loan should be guaranteed to play in at least 50% of the games the side plays he goes to.
 

AngerManagement

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I think sending any of the reserve lads like Pekhart, Rose, Devitte etc to a london club like QPR, Charlton or Palace in the Championship can only be benefical as they can stay in the capital, dont have to leave home (which some mentally weak players may strggle with) and would get valuable experience.

Mind you theres no point loaning a player out if he doesnt get any games (eg. Button) and just sits on the bench. I think we'd have to stipulate that any player leaving on loan should be guaranteed to play in at least 50% of the games the side plays he goes to.

To be fair none of the players you mentioned are from London in the first place, as such they have already left home to be with us now. (so leaving home shouldn't be the issue, atleast not more of an issue then their current situation is/was)
 

guy

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May 31, 2007
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Yep I would loan out a few of them for sure. Boateng and taarabt to other prem clubs and the younguns to championship clubs
 

eddiebailey

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To be honest there is not that much of a gulf between the bottom of the ELP and the Championship or between the Championship and the top of League One, in principle loans at this level are to be welcomed. Lower than that the standard drops, but short loans are still useful for younger players to get them used to the physical demands of regular competitive football.

Pretty much any player out of the Academy and not in the first team squad is available for loan, and on occasion we will loan out an Academy lad if we think he is ready. But we cannot be too choosy who we loan to; which young players go out on loan depends more on the needs of the importing club than on the development needs of our youth squad.
 

DEFchenkOE

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I agree that some of the players mentioned should be loaned out, maybe to teams like Sunderland, Wigan etc I think it is better for them to go to a top Championship team than a struggling prem team as this could get very frustrating and demoralizing. For instance it would have been pointless sending any of our youngsters to Derby this season, next season however could be beneficial to them. Look at Arsenal, they loaned players like Bentner, Muamba, Larrson and Gibbs to championship teams and all done quite well. I think this is something we need to do more often with our youngsters, we often seem to buy young talent but I feel we could do with more of them breaking into the first team.
 

DEFchenkOE

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According to the Shropshirestar:

Wolves target Gunter loan move

Wolves are eyeing a possible loan swoop for Tottenham defender Chris Gunter as they look to bolster their squad for next season’s promotion assault.
A high-powered Molineux delegation of owner-chairman Steve Morgan, manager Mick McCarthy and coach Terry Connor watched Gunter in action for Wales against England in the under-21s international at Wrexham last night.
The trio will have seen Wolves players Wayne Hennessey and David Edwards impress for the Welsh despite a 2-0 defeat.
But Gunter is believed to be top of McCarthy’s list as he looks to re-stock his defence for next season after releasing captain Gary Breen and making Darren Ward and Rob Edwards available for transfer.
 

HuggyBear

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We should loan Pekhart or Rose out for a season to Cardiff as part of a deal for Ramsey on a permanent transfer.
 
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