Louis Van Gaal appointed Man Utd manager.

[Tom Pops]

That's a bit like saying the manager of Celtic is worth a punt.

How?

Comparing the qualities of the Dutch league to the Scottish league is a non-starter. In Holland you have PSV, Twente - teams that have the quality and budget to win the title. You've also got a few other good quality teams - Vitesse, AZ, Heerenven, Groningen, and Feyenoord. In Scotland, it really is a one horse race. You've got Celtic, no Rangers and then the rest are teams that are round about Championship to lower championship quality. Inverness, Dundee United, Hibs etc.

By the way did you know before De Boer was appointed in 2010, Ajax hadn't won the title in 6 years?

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

That's a bit like saying the manager of Celtic is worth a punt.

Not really when you consider there is about 4 teams in the Dutch League with the resources to win it.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 16s
Sky Sources: Spurs have made an approach for Southampton manager Mauricio Pochettino #SSN

Please stop making this stuff up, even in jest. Ta.

 

[sloth]

Fucked if I know. LVG, Benitez maybe. Come the summer who knows who'll be available? We'll all have our onions on that I guess.

I might be wrong, but I just get the feeling that one or two members of the squad (If not more) are either wising up to the fact that we're treading water and its time to move on or getting fed up with the chopping and changing and I think we need someone with a big enough name/enough clout/strength of personality to pull everything together.

A period of stabilty is now of paramount importance. Levy simply HAS to get the right man this time.

I liked your wish list of tick boxes, however if such a manager exists his name is SAF, or Pep, or Mourinho, possibly Klopp. We can aspire to tick some of your boxes and for the rest we can either know they're definitely not ticked a la Benitez or LVG, or we can try and pick someone who we think might tick more of them even if he's not got the record yet to prove it. I want a team-builder, and an innovative forward thinking coach, I think we need an attacking philosophy too, he also needs a bit of charisma and obviously leadership qualities. I don't particularly care about his record in terms of winning stuff, so long as it doesn't preclude these qualities listed, but it should show something of potential a la what Rogers pulled off at Swansea.

 

[Kirito]

Van Gaal to UTD
Moyes to us
We finish above Man Utd next season

But not on this planet

We're fucked!

 

[spurs-r-us]

I suppose it could depend on what Everton' finances look like for next season. Spurs might stump up to buy him out, and if he has no funds for next season might be up for coming to Spurs. Doubt it though.

Martinez likes to build clubs. Levy might give him £30m, but he'd be better off with £15m under Kenwright who won't sack him for 10 years.

 

[Vulcan10]

I think a lot of us had our hearts set on LVG, we've not had a manager of that stature before & he would have provided much needed hope and excitement in abundance.
There are positives to poch, his style of play, maybe his presence would make the signing of lallana more likely and he would perhaps work well with lamella however we do have a squad full of egos and underachievers and I'm not sure poch commands enough respect to motivate these guys in the way LVG would have. This appointment would leave us less likely to keep Hugo & Jan for example.
LVG was our managerial equivalent of the VDV signing and we needed a little luck for him to fall into our lap, If this doesn't happen and utd take him it's back to gamble time and making an educated guess on who's the best of the rest from a list of now underwhelming candidates.

 

[sloth]

Who is a big name manager that is available that we can attract? We don't have much money to spend. But I just realised in the previous post you did you called on Levy to pick the right man for the job.
He isn't the man who is supposed to be doing that our, DOF, Baldini is!!!

Levy will take the ultimate decision but it will be informed by those who work for him and in particular by Baldini. I don't understand where you get this "supposed" stuff from btw? "Supposed" says who?

 

[TheAmerican]

Looking at the dutch media, everything I have read is coming from English sources (well, using them as the media source). There doesn't seem to be anything coming from van Gaal's camp.

 

[spursfan77]

Jacob ‏@Jacob_ITK 6m
No chance Levy is going for Moyes. Although he has been interviewed by us before.

He's right, there was ITK at the time. It was the summer we sacked Redknapp. Some people at the club wanted Moyes but fortunately 1 person didn't. That person was Levy. Lets hope he hasn't changed his mind.

 

[sloth]

The hate is from Southampton having one dimension, at a push.

Pass pass pass. Nothing else.

I remember similar criticisms of some fellow at Swansea, while others argued that someone like Lambert with his long-ball football was twice the manager... someone help me out... what happened with those two in the end?

 

[Mullers]

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69 - Everton under Martinez, three games still remaining.

If we're looking for a team-builder, rather than a buyer of success then we should only consider a manager's achievements into his second season and onwards. From the above:

Which was his CL qualifying season?
Can you tell me what the trend is?
Which year is the stand-out on?

If you think the CL qualification season really is a feather in his cap, why should we concentrate in particular on the single success rather than on the bigger picture shown above?

he got everton 4th in 2004, for the past 7 years he has got no lower than 8th. He did not achieve the heights of fourth again If we are looking for a team builder than Levy should just keep Sherwood, because Sherwood can bring in youth and build a team that way, if we are looking for someone who is more experienced that can get the best out of players, then I don't see how Moyes can not be a candidate.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Who's your shout AC?

Well, my often flawed analysis tells me it's between two. Pochettino almost walked already so I think he'll have no problem doing to so at the end of the season and we know we've had at least a chat with EllVeeGee. So for me, until we hear different, thems the two to keep an eye on. But then you have to consider the Levy factor, so there's bound to be another name in the frame.

Who do I want it to be? LVG or Benitez. Who do I think it will be? If LVG goes to United and we can't/don't want to prise the rotund serving operative away from Napoli then I think it's very likely going to be Pochettino.

So all things being equal, it'll be someone else.

Basically, I have no idea

 

[teok]

Who did moyes bring the best out of at utd?

 

[Mullers]

Levy will take the ultimate decision but it will be informed by those who work for him and in particular by Baldini. I don't understand where you get this "supposed" stuff from btw? "Supposed" says who?

How do you know that?

 

[Mr Pink]

would this not be a good time to get rid of Tim? Under the radar with the spotlight firmly on United.

It would literally be at the end of the hour when Sky wrap up some other news going on lol

Just stick Hoddle in charge for the last three games, or Fruend...hell even Ledley King lol

 

[hodsgod]

How?

Comparing the qualities of the Dutch league to the Scottish league is a non-starter. In Holland you have PSV, Twente - teams that have the quality and budget to win the title. You've also got a few other good quality teams - Vitesse, AZ and Feyenoord. In Scotland, it really is a one horse race. You've got Celtic, no Rangers and then the rest are teams that are round about Championship to lower championship quality. Inverness, Dundee United, Hibs etc.

By the way did you know before De Boer was appointed in 2010, Ajax hadn't won the title in 6 years?

Six years you say, and as you imply that's a long time, it just indicates the expectation of that club. They are the biggest club, they have won the league 32 times, 50% more than the next highest.

Ajax do win the league regularly' they always have. Winning it is not an achievement, it's expected.

Who compared leagues by the way? I certainly didn't.

 

[Grey Fox]

Two Dutch men, an Argentine a German and an Italian walked into a Tottenham bar.................. the punchline will be delivered mid May.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

He's right, there was ITK at the time. It was the summer we sacked Redknapp. Some people at the club wanted Moyes but fortunately 1 person didn't. That person was Levy. Lets hope he hasn't changed his mind.

Moyes has just come of a negative experience, think Levy would be looking for a positive appointment. I think a lot of fans would just give up if Moyes was appointed. We'd go into a season knowing just what to expect, a 5/6th finish, playing Moyes's boring style of footy. We need a Manager we can all get behind and actually have ambitions of being better than just 5/6th in the League.

 

[Dirty Ewok]

If United bring in LVG, it would be incredibly unrealistic but entertaining to bring in Cruyff, LVG's biggest rival.

He's seemingly content as a pundit in Holland.....but at this point he may be even crazier than LvG.

But wow, the pure entertainment value of press conferences leading into a matchup between Cruyff and LvG would be amazing....truly, truly amazing.