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Lamelad

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If I was to choose between 3 players from the premierleague per position for us to buy this summer, I think I would probaby take the 3 from Everton.

Lukaku up front, Barkley in midfield and Coleman at the back.

Lloris

Coleman Toby Vertonghen Rose
Dier
Barkley Dembele
Alli Eriksen
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crokey

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If I was to choose between 3 players from the Premier League per position for us to buy this summer, I think I would probaby take the 3 from Everton.

Lukaku up front, Barkley in midfield and Coleman at the back.

Lloris

Coleman Toby Vertonghen Rose
Dier
Barkley Dembele
Alli Eriksen
Kane

I think there's only really 2 attainable targets in the Premier League who clearly improve us, Mane and Coleman. IMO we will look abroad.

Lloris
Coleman Toby Jan Rose
Dier Dembele
Mane Alli Eriksen
Kane

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Lamelad

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You`re probably right. Not sure about Mane though. Seems a bit all over the place.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Lukaku is probably worth £60m, but Kane is worth more because he's now the poster boy for English football.
It's purely academical, but I can't understand why anybody would pay significantly more for Kane if Lukaku also would be available in the same time frame. The fact that Lukaku is doing so well whilst playing for somewhat less ambitious club contributes indirectly to shaping the market value of Kane. Lukaku is probably a more obtainable player (player's willingness to transfer, club's willingness to sell). So in a hypothetical scenario their value can't be too far apart at this point, simply because buying clubs would swiftly move to Lukaku rather than paying a super premium for Kane. IMHO.
 

Lamelad

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It's purely academical, but I can't understand why anybody would pay significantly more for Kane if Lukaku also would be available in the same time frame. The fact that Lukaku is doing so well whilst playing for somewhat less ambitious club contributes indirectly to shaping the market value of Kane. Lukaku is probably a more obtainable player (player's willingness to transfer, club's willingness to sell). So in a hypothetical scenario their value can't be too far apart at this point, simply because buying clubs would swiftly move to Lukaku rather than paying a super premium for Kane. IMHO.

I would keep Harry over Lukaku any day because I love him and he`s one of our own.

But, if I was, lets say Manchester United, and tomorrow I`d have to chose between Harry or Lukaku, I think I might go for Lukaku.
 

Dharmabum

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I love how another teams player basically matches Kane's goal scoring record and is valued at £40 million yet Kane would cost £100 million?

I said £40M+(plus means added on, just in case). Vardy is also matching Kane's scoring record and it value far less.
Can you tell me where I said Kane would cost £100M?
 

nicdic

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Makes no sense to go after Lukaku. There is no way he'll get Harry's place in the team, neither will we shift to a 4-4-2. Would he be happy to have the odd game here and there?

We won't be looking for an out and out striker to be back up for Harry unless we go for a kid. It'll be someone who can play from the wing or down the middle. Someone who's capable of playing with Harry as well as instead of him.
 

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If we are looking for a backup to Kane it will be somebody in the mould of a Berahino, somebody who can play behind if necessary and has a bit more tactical flexibility. He isn't as good a player as Lukaku but that's the sort of player we will look to get.
 

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Which is why I want to see what Poch could do with him.

That's the easiest part of the game to learn.
If it's the easiest part of the game he should have some by now. He's a decent player, but massively overrated, just like Stones, and Rodwell before them.
 

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Lukaku is not a Poch type of player...I cant see him trying to press consistently for 90 minutes. In a Poch team all four at the front need to be involved in the press and the transition press or gegenpress as Klopp so fondly calls it. Can you see Lukaku running his tits off like Lamela or Kane? He is a throwback to the traditional CF while H is more of a new type of forward that runs all day and does his share of the dirty work. That is why both Lakaku and Benteke will be off our radar. I think Poch will be looking for a more mobile and adaptable striker who has a higher work rate.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Lukaku is not a Poch type of player...I cant see him trying to press consistently for 90 minutes. In a Poch team all four at the front need to be involved in the press and the transition press or gegenpress as Klopp so fondly calls it. Can you see Lukaku running his tits off like Lamela or Kane? He is a throwback to the traditional CF while H is more of a new type of forward that runs all day and does his share of the dirty work. That is why both Lakaku and Benteke will be off our radar. I think Poch will be looking for a more mobile and adaptable striker who has a higher work rate.
But doesn't he (Pochettino) love to change, mould and alter players? Hence you don't need players who are already suited, you ned players who are open to 1) change and 2) hard training. I have no idea if Lukaku is such a guy, but I don't have the impressions that he is unprofessional?
 

Flashspur

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But doesn't he (Pochettino) love to change, mould and alter players? Hence you don't need players who are already suited, you ned players who are open to 1) change and 2) hard training. I have no idea if Lukaku is such a guy, but I don't have the impressions that he is unprofessional?

I don't think its a question of professionalism but style, athleticism and adaptability. Lukaku is a striker that depends a lot on his muscularity and size to play off the shoulder of the last defender and bully and dominate in the final third. However, he relies heavily on the ball being played to him. Its rare to find Lukaku trying to win the ball back or press the opposition into mistakes or go seeking a turnover. He is an old fashioned target man. I just don't think he has the mentality to turn into a Harry Kane like forward. At the end of the day, Poch's teams don't carry passengers. Everyone works their asses off and defence starts with the forward line.
 

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Lukaku is not a Poch type of player...I cant see him trying to press consistently for 90 minutes. In a Poch team all four at the front need to be involved in the press and the transition press or gegenpress as Klopp so fondly calls it. Can you see Lukaku running his tits off like Lamela or Kane? He is a throwback to the traditional CF while H is more of a new type of forward that runs all day and does his share of the dirty work. That is why both Lakaku and Benteke will be off our radar. I think Poch will be looking for a more mobile and adaptable striker who has a higher work rate.
Good basic point and no doubt why The Special One did not rate Lukaku enough to hold onto him
 

Everlasting Seconds

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I don't think its a question of professionalism but style, athleticism and adaptability. Lukaku is a striker that depends a lot on his muscularity and size to play off the shoulder of the last defender and bully and dominate in the final third. However, he relies heavily on the ball being played to him. Its rare to find Lukaku trying to win the ball back or press the opposition into mistakes or go seeking a turnover. He is an old fashioned target man. I just don't think he has the mentality to turn into a Harry Kane like forward. At the end of the day, Poch's teams don't carry passengers. Everyone works their asses off and defence starts with the forward line.
What I like about Lukaku vs. Kane though, is that the former is a better passes. He doesn't pass the ball more but better. He provides more assist, more key passes, and more chances for team players than Kane does. I'm not going to bring up the entire is Kane greedy debate, but safe to say I'd love a striker alternative with an even better eye for passing.
It's purely academical of course, we are not going to sign Lukaku. But I for one would be excited if we did.
 

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Lukaku is not a Poch type of player...I cant see him trying to press consistently for 90 minutes. In a Poch team all four at the front need to be involved in the press and the transition press or gegenpress as Klopp so fondly calls it. Can you see Lukaku running his tits off like Lamela or Kane? He is a throwback to the traditional CF while H is more of a new type of forward that runs all day and does his share of the dirty work. That is why both Lakaku and Benteke will be off our radar. I think Poch will be looking for a more mobile and adaptable striker who has a higher work rate.
Mitrovic?
 
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